Zenit v Minsk

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by wfc4ever, Aug 16, 2018.

  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

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  2. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    8-1 and being down to 10 men after an hour. Wouldn’t mind seeing the betting patterns!!
     
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  3. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    1980. I’ll never forget it. Confirmation that we had something really special going.
     
  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Here is the game told in picture form.

     
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  5. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    I sat next to a Southampton fan in maths at school. I loved using my pen and pencil with the score emblazoned down the side that year.
     
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  6. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I wish I still had my pen.I lost my BP towel too.
     
  7. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    How did they lose the first leg by so many? That's the only surprising aspect of the result
     
  8. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Reminds me more of that World Cup match in (I think) 1982 when Argentina needed to beat Uraguay 6-0 to progress instead of Brazil. They won 6-0. The Uraguay keeper was born in Argentina.
     
  9. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    That was Peru in 1978. Rumours persist of a collaboration between the military junta in Argentina and grain shipments to Peru. However all the players in that game that played for Argentina say they had no awareness of any collusion and if Brazil had beaten Poland by more goals they would have made the final regardless.
     
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  10. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Good correction and clarification. But I think Brazil had played earlier so the Argies knew what they had to do. Andthe Argentina-born keeper certainly had a 'mare. The Argie players needn't have known if he'd agreed to throw the game.
     
  11. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    From memory I think Argentina actually had to win by 4, but went on to get 6. Nonetheless it showed the great flaw of games not being played at the same time, which is exactly what will happen if FIFA expand the WC to 48 countries - there would be 16 groups of 3.
     
  12. Slightly more to it than that from what I remember.

    *Around six years ago, Peruvian senator Genaro Ledesma told a judge in Buenos Aires that result had been agreed before the match by the dictatorships of the two countries.
    *The judge, Noberto Oyarbide, ordered the arrest of former Peruvian military president Francisco Bermudez - on the grounds that he had illegally sent some Peruvian 'political dissidents' to Argentina under the Condor Plan, where they would be tortured and forced to sign false confessions - or be thrown out of a plane over the Atlantic.
    *Ledesma also told the judge that the Argentinian dictator Videlma only agreed to take the dissidents on the condition that Peru lost the match against Argentina by sufficient goals to let them progress to the final.
    *Argentina's central bank also opened a $50m line of credit for Peru.

    This was all reported in the Australian press at the time - but I can't for the life of me find a link. There was also a claim that Henry Kissinger was involved - but I can't remember how.
     
  13. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Quality backing tune. Why can’t we have yawnmongers as our club anthem? It’s ideal

    Edit: sorry, couldn’t resist. I know I’m well behind but It’s the first Opportunity I’ve had to try the Yawnmongers filter. Wonderous invention. It’s made me chuckle!
     
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  14. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

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  15. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    This is true and WillisIsTheWorst is correct in that Argentina knew what they had to do in order to make the final. The main motivation for the Argentinian players when interviewed many years later was to bring some joy into the lives of the public there given the repression in place from the junta and people, namely political rivals of the junta disappearing.
     
  16. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    1978, Peru and they needed to win 4-0 :)
     
  17. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    So after a certain amount of trial and error we seem to have got the story straight! I still see parallels with Zenit v Minsk.
     
  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Reminds me of that game in the 1978 WC. Argentina vs Bolivia I think it was. They had to win 5-0 to progress.
     

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