Xisco Munoz

He repeatedly chucked his players under the bus, he kept saying they weren’t good enough and were league one players, so couldn’t compete. That was conveniently ignoring they had competed the year before and he had been given money to strengthen but had wasted it. Not the sort of thing any owner wants to hear.

 

I wouldn't go that far, it depends what sort of club, what country they play in and the level they're at for starters.

But I'm becoming closer in agreement to what you said in your post before this thread was updated - regardless of his extremely limited managerial experience (non-existent in the top flight of any major league before this season) and lack of coaching badges (does he actually have any?), if he did have any sign of eventually making it at the top level, you'd expect him at 41 to display some evidence of it. Unfortunately my essay-length post trying to make a case for him being at least a reasonable manager in the top flight at some point hasn't aged well - it was written just after the Wolves game when I and still many others were prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he showed no sign of learning or adapting since. And while I still wish him well, this seeming lack of self-awareness or humility isn't doing his reputation or managerial prospects any favours at the moment.

 

Yes, of course; I'm referring to the usual clubs and leagues in which you'd expect him to be hoping to move and of which he's now had a taste - he'd likely be able to go back to a Georgia or maybe an Arab state or something and find actual employment, but that's not what former pros are talking about when they say they want a managerial career, really, is it.

 

Give him a team of players who are definitely too good for the Championship but are slacking around Xmas - and he’ll be fine (edit for any secondary league on the continent). The bloke is a glorified cheerleader right now - but has scope to be better with experience etc. The Premier League experience was far too quick and the guy himself said he wanted to be in Georgia for 2 years. So technically he still sees himself there for this season. That’s a world away from the PL.

Go away, get your badges and work your way up. He’s skipped some keys points in his development stages because of the squad he was given. Simple as that.

 

Spot on. £23.5m wasted on the goal machine (38 Sheff U appearances and 1 goal v Carlisle) that is ex-Liverpool and England U21 star Rhian Brewster for example. That's a Jerome Sinclair goal return at nearly 5 times the cost. If he does come good, Liverpool have the right to buy him back for £40m until June 2023. Perhaps Sheff U might be wise not to anticipate spending that fee too early...

 

If he’s as talented as the Pozzos say, why didn’t they just demote him to work under and learn from Ranieri for a couple of years?
It’s not as if the old fella ain’t gonna retire in the next few seasons

 

Fair points - it's just that (and I didn't know about these facts when I wrote my earlier posts about him) he retired five years ago, having not played in La Liga since 2011. In the five years since retiring from what I gather (the history of his career on Wikipedia is somewhat sketchy) he was an assistant manager in the Segunda Division for a year, before managing a handful of games in the Spanish fourth tier and in Georgia. That doesn't sound like someone who is fully committed to putting in the hard work to succeed at the top level, however much he would jump at a job if offered, and as I said, you'd expect someone who is capable of that even without much experience to have acquired at least a modicum of tactical knowledge and adaptability by the time they reach 41, so it's possible that he just doesn't have the aptitude (as everyone on this planet bar a handful prove not to, even with the full set of badges). It's still not too late to learn, but like learning a new language, these things are harder to achieve the older you are, and hopefully the window of opportunity for that hasn't gone.

 

Because, in fairness, this is a moonman fantasy idea from the pages of 'Shoot!' magazine, and he'd be far better served actually doing the study and work needed to earn the coaching badges required to manage at the level he believes himself capable of.

Clearly, he's not, but that isn't so relevant to the idea of why or not an ageing coach tasked with rescuing our club from quite a dire position without time on his side should at the same time also have to be responsible for becoming pedagogue to the man he replaced.

 

It almost never works in any industry. It undermines the new boss, and the old one often feels resentment if it was done against their will, poisoning the well.

 

Yep, good point. I definitely didn’t consider what any incoming coach would think of the idea, irrelevant of his age.

 

In line to be the new Huesca coach, apparently.

 

Pleased for him, this will be the acid test for him to see if he can do it over a whole season in a major league - and I did say that the Segunda Division would be as good a place as any to get his career running in earnest if he’s still serious about management.

 

Nice bloke and no animosity from me towards him. Always thankful he got us up and for somehow giving Ranieri a decent starting point in the table.

That league is his level right now and I'm glad that he will be near to family, as well as finding employment very quickly.

 

Good luck Xisco. Hopefully this will stop him whinging about his sacking.

 

Imagine where we'd be if we'd have sacked this clown in the summer line we should have and brought the proper manager ranieri in at that time.

Thank god our owners acted swiftly.

 

Xisco is the new Manager of SD Huesca in the Spanish second division

 

If only he had waited another day, he could of had the Barcelona job

 

You're half right. We should have sacked him in March though, and we'd have gone up as champs.

 

In all seriousness, we would've needed to win every game from March onwards to achieve that (assuming you meant after the Bournemouth game, a good example of Xisco's tactical limitations) or win 12 and draw one, scoring enough goals to overtake Norwich on goal difference. But it could've been done. Impressive though his record was in winning promotion, all of the games we dropped points in (except possibly Brentford away) were quite easily winnable with the best manager in charge out of those who'd want to come to us, who would be a better tactician and motivator.

If we'd won by more against two of Wycombe, Forest and Sheffield Wednesday (opponents ripe for bigger defeats), won at Middlesbrough and Luton and drawn at Brentford, that would have put us on 97 points while improving our goal difference by at least 7, making us edge above Norwich.

 

Where do people reckon he'll manage next? Top tier team, or lower?

 

If he does a good job with Huesca and develops the tactical side of his management he could get a role at a top division club. Personally think he needs to improve the calibre of his supporting team. It's a group of blokes pretty much as inexperienced as him, and includes his own brother.

 

Is it the same group he had when he was managing us in the Prem?

He did lose a valuable assistant that played a part in us winning promotion, could explain why he lost his way this season other than him managing at a higher level.

 

In no way whatsoever is that responsible, but yeah.

 

Yeah, think he lost the assistant that whistled really loud. Can't remember his name

 

I wish I knew how to whistle really loudly or in tune, the best I can manage is an imitation of the wind.

 

Xisco begins with a draw thanks to a dodgy penalty in the 95th minute.

 

How do we now that he can indeed whistle very loudly as he never had a full crowd to drown out the noise?

 

That's a very good point

 

Is anyone following this useless terd's career? Has he been sacked from his new job yet?

 

Had a poor/mixed start at Huesca, unbeaten in last 6. 5 points off play offs, 7 points off relegation.

 

He's only lost one of his first nine games, but only won three (no idea what is expected there though). Quite similar to QSF's record at Getafe.

 

Damn, not what I wanted to hear.