What Do We All Drive/car Stuff

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  1. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Anyone driven a Tesla Model 3? Looks like a good option / cheap through company scheme.
  2. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

    Boss has one. Bigger than you think. Most days it's not used in preference to their older car.
  3. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Thanks for the reassuring words. If course I am too tight for the fancy model, but it's all academic anyway as there is currently a 5 month wait for them due to the computer chip shortage!
  4. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

    It would appear that @UEA_Hornet is not the man of the people we thought he was.


    Bloody lovely car mind.
  5. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

  6. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Am thinking of buying a 70/80s Jag. XJS or XJ6 .

    Anyone here with a similar experience . What’s the pitfalls etc .

    My main concern is I hardly ever need a car as I live in central London , so it needs to be ok with lieimg idle for weeks on end .
  7. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Couldn’t comment much on the car specifically, but you need to get something older than 1981 so it’s classified as an historic vehicle, otherwise the new ULEZ would make it pretty prohibitive I think.
  8. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Ah, thanks for reminding me. Bring the car around old boy.
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  9. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

    My boss bought a 90s Bentley. It's first service cost £8.5K more than a quarter of the cost of the car.

    No car will like being left for weeks, old cars will be the worst and Jags don't have a great reputation. Have a look at Mercs of that era instead.
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  10. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    So due to family circumstances it's time for a major motoring change at the Diamond small-holding. Much as I love my old diesel it's got one more MOT pass in it IMO, and Mrs D's change of career means she's gone from a daily car user to once every now and again. Her car passed it's MOT today so going to sell it quickly.

    After looking seriously at every way of buying a new or fairly new car, I've decided that the best way is to chuck it on the Mortgage, (we're in the middle of sorting out a new deal anyway), overpay the new mortgage for the next 5 years with the amount that we'd have paid in car rental, and buy a 2nd hand car at max 2 years old with no more than 15K miles on the clock. I'd like to get a diesel so by the time it's run into the ground in 10 years or so we've got our moneys worth and then some out of it. I really did look at every other way of purchasing/leasing a car and the figures on the mortgage beat every other method hands down.

    I shall name it Claudio.
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  11. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

    Nice to see the Nio reviewed on Fifth Gear Recharged this week which uses the exact system I suggested for swapping the battery in less than 5 mins.

    Heres' a bit about it.

    Think Chinese cars are going the way of Korean and Japanese before them. Takes a generation or two before they become serious contenders. Germany need to be worried.
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  12. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

    Is range/style an issue? May be time to plump for something like a 2nd hand Nissan Leaf.
    2nd had car prices are very high at the moment. Might be worth holding off if you can.
  14. If it is kept outside, don't do it. You'll need a battery trickle charger at very least. 70's & 80's cars, especially British, were about 25% as reliable as modern cars even when they were new, and they are now 35-50 years old. Stuff like rubber hoses and wiring just fails and corrodes even if not used.
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  15. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

    Not to mention they might need to be run on premium fuel as possibly not E10 compatible.
  16. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    From a bit of research it seems that the lower end of the 2nd hand market is going for a much higher % than the higher end. For example, a car that should be £2k is going for £3K, whereas a car that should be going for £15K is going for £16K.
    What this means is that we gain big time on selling Mrs D's car for under £5K.
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  17. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

    If it's outdoors you can get a small solar panel you leave on the dash connected to the 12v socket. Usually enough to keep the battery topped up
  18. What was the general consensus on petrol/diesel Vs electric in the end?

    I need a new car as just sold mine so was looking at each side. I don't want to buy a non electric for it to lose more than expected depreciation value in a year or 2 if electric suddenly goes bananas.

    Like most said on here before, charging point at home and around would be a bit of an issue but one I'd struggle to resolve if in a few years time I'd have to anyway.

    When is petrol and diesel car production being stopped?

    When is the cut of for all cars to be electric?

    What is the current technology like to convert existing cars into electric?

    What about new eco friendly synthetic fuel to use in existing car systems which I heard is being worked on?

    Most TV ads if not all are now electric cars.

    Starting to panic a little that buying a petrol or diesel may depreciate more in the next few years and an electric, despite the struggle to make it work for me, may be the most financially beneficial.
  19. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Are you buy new new from a dealer or just a car that is new for you? Personally I wouldn't have depreciation high on my list of concerns if the latter. It's obviously a bigger factor with ones you take new from the forecourt but then that'd presumably be the same for any fuel type.

    The economy's farked anyway. Inflation is rampant. I really can't see a short term revolution in the car market that makes traditional fuel cars obsolete within the (reasonably) lifetime of whatever car you get next.
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  20. Sorry, new for me. I should've clarified that. 2018ish likely from what petrol/diesel cars I'd be looking at getting.

    It's probably something I'll only keep for 2-3 years anyway in all honesty but it just feels like everything is gearing up rapidly for electric/hybrid suddenly. Unless that's just my small interpretation of it.
  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I can't see anything changing radically in 2-3 years and so in your shoes I'd just be buying the most suitable car for me at this moment in time. If you can't make electric work for you now, revisit the situation when you're next in the market for a car and see if you can then.

    If I was really focused on depreciation, I'd probably be more concerned that the second hand car market is a bit of a hyped bubble at the moment and could well go pop if manufacturers get their supply lines sorted for new models. So when you come back to buy another car in 2-3 years time you might find the gap is bigger. But again, global economic headwinds suggest that ain't going to happen in the short term.
  22. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

    See above
  23. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    My advice is buy a bicycle. No-one will be able to afford to run a car - ic engine or electric -within 6 months
  24. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    The current position is that the sale of petrol/diesel cars stops in 2030 (2035 for hybrids). Even if that were not to change, the second hand market would endure for at least another decade or so and with it the availability of petrol stations. So I wouldn't be too concerned about the resale value of a car you buy new now. I had similar concerns to you the last time I bought a car about 18 months ago and I would like to have done the 'right' thing and bought electric, but because of all the shortcomings mentioned on here I decided against it. I suspect I will still feel the same when I come to buy my next, but it depends largely on price, charging infrastructure and battery technology for me.
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  25. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Anyone ever owned a quad bike? Road legal.
    Moved to Spain recently and don't really need a car in all honesty. Never had the greatest experiences on motorbikes and was just contemplating the thought of purchasing said quad. Not sure on the handling of these 4 wheel beasts.
  26. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

    More dangerous than motorbikes. Worse for parking. And you look like a ****
  27. wimbornet

    wimbornet Reservist

    Yep, I have one through a company scheme and I love it.
    Good range (if needed) and brilliant for short and mid distances.
    Did a longer run the other day (south coast to Oxford and back), quick stop at the supercharger enroute at Winchester and on my way again. That was my first fill up on a long journey but it was a piece of cake.
  28. Thanks guys. This really helps a lot.

    I don't do a stupid amount of miles, maybe 4k a year at the moment with WFH but the lack of decent charging points where I do go makes me reluctant to go electric.

    I'm not concerned with making an investment but at least something that won't depreciate too much as whatever it's worth when I sell it helps pay for the next car. My last one lost about £2500 value in three years which I thought was fairly ok for a 7 year old car in the end.

    I think therefore I'll go for a petrol model and think about my next options in 18-24 months when the electric option might hopefully be a little more straight forward.

    Thanks again all.
  29. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Better off with a golf cart, I reckon.
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  30. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange

    not owned one, but hired them and done a few quad safaris, much easier to fall off then you would imagine especially if your used to mountains biking and the idea of throwing your weight around to counter balance
  31. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange

    Trouble with electric 2nd hand market is how long will the batteries last , if they only last 10 years then due to cost of replacing, the car is likely to be a write off.

    I would lease a new electric , but wouldn't buy one

    I used to buy a car and swap every couple of years and was losing g a fortune every time I swapped , so swapped to leasing
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  32. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

    Almost all data shows this isn't the case. Nissan leafs didn't have cooling systems for their batteries and suffer, but even then it's max 40% less in extreme situations.

    If you buy an old banger cheap and you get less range - it just relegates the car to shorter journeys.
  33. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Agreed. Took one out a couple of weeks ago and within a few minutes I'd decided against that option.
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  34. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

    Yep I nearly tipped a quad once. Centre of balance too high compared to width for me, same with a trike. I think you're better off on 2 wheels.

    If I didn't need a car I'd be looking at electric motorbikes I think.
  35. hornmeister

    hornmeister Club Legend

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