[SIGNED perm] Wesley Hoedt

No sense of tradition, these youngsters!

 

As WTE is out on loan does he not retain his squad number in case he comes back for whatever reason?

 

To pick up some socks he’d left in the changing room .

 

And he thinks he's twice the man that Porteous (no. 22) is.

 

Page 7 of this thread had me in tears. Top humour.

 

Should the number 5 not be for a full-back?

 

2 and 3 are the full backs, surely?

 

1
2 5 6 3
7 4 8 11
9 10

Anything else is wrong

 

Not disagreeing with you but Sir GT had the centre forwards at 8 and 9 and he is not to argued with. Anybody know what game the lineup below is from?!!

• 1 Steve Sherwood
• 2 David Bardsley
• 3 Neil Price Substituted off 58'
• 4 Les Taylor (c)
• 5 Steve Terry
• 6 Lee Sinnott
• 7 Nigel Callaghan
• 8 Mo Johnston
• 9 George Reilly
• 10 Kenny Jackett
• 11 John Barnes

 

The origimal way was: -

1 GK, 2 RB, 3 LB, 4 Right Half, 5 Centre Half, 6 Left Half, 7 Outside Right, 8 Inside Right, 9 Centre Forward, 10 Inside Left, 11 Outside Left.

 

Not quite right Tom the layout should be: -
1 Goal Keeper
2 3 full backs
4 5 6 half backs
7 8 9 10 11 forwards

 

‘4 has always been a midfielder for me Clive’.

/Ally McCoist voice

 

Andy Townsend surely?

 

Close. 8 is a forward and 10 a CM.

 

Cup Final vs *****Neverton?

 

What about teams pre 442.

I seem to remember when you had inside forwards they were 8 and 10 and wingers were 7 and 11 ?Could be wrong of course.

 

So were the half backs midfielders or CBs ? Or some kind of hybrid between the two ?

 

Just looked one of my old programs from when I played in the 70's
1 Goal Keeper
2,3 Full Backs
4,5 Centre Backs
7,6,8,11 Midfield
9,10 Forwards

 

In modern terms I would say 235 were defenders, 46 defensive MF, 7891011 were a mixture of ATM and Strikers. Probably in a kind of 352 formation.

 

I think Hoedt could be a smart signing for the Championship.

If he can pass both forwards and to someone in the same colour shirt that'd be an amazing start.

His welcome video made me smile though, surely no-one is that keen to come to Watford...

 

“In and around.”

 

Of course he's happy to be here, we're the only club who would put up with his shenanigans!

 

Will be the best CB at the club.

Which is more an indication of their ability, as opposed to his.

 

Made a big impact yesterday.

The Reading bench still has the imprint of his backside.

 

I’m surprised he’s not handed in a transfer request.

 

Considering he hasn't played since November

 

That's the way I see it. But now we have midfielders with no. 5 on their shirts, centre forwards wearing 7 and all sorts. But it's only since numbers went all over the place that pundits have been saying things like "he's a true no. 6" etc. They seem to see it as a midfield role, but John McClelland, Glenn Roeder?

Having said that, Brazil traditionally had a back four numbered 2 3, 4, 5 and for a time in the early 70s Fulham copied that. A left back wearing no. 5 sometimes confused novice commentators and amused me.

Feel free to write me off as a pedantic old fart.

 

I quite liked when Holland/Argentina just went alphabetical, leading to midfielders wearing "1" and Keepers with "8".

 

Half backs were primarily ball-winning midfielders, like Hamza. Flair midfielders were "schemers" once upon a time.

 

Ossie Ardiles was no. 1 for a time. That caused me some disquiet.

 

"Schemers" is fantastic. Perfect for Jurado.

"Why does he never get assists?"

"Busy scheming"

 

I was never quite sure what a ‘pivot’ was.

 

Bit like a deeper fulcrum I believe.

 

Centre half, no. 5, in the days when there was only one central defender.

Why are goalkeepers no longer called custodians?

 

As QSF once stated, the most talented player we will ever get to see at the Vic.
Criminally under-rated, the stats of zero assists and zero goals really don't reflect his contribution.
Would love to see his scheming stats. Off the scale one would imagine.