Yeah he got Arteta's classic one and a signed Ben White away top. Also got to keep the match ball as Arteta "helped" them score their third goal.
From BBC Sport: Arteta said afterwards: "The fourth referee said, 'Mikel, you shouldn't be allowed to do that'. Aw, what a silly billy Mikel is, breaking rules to win games, let’s acknowledge he shouldn’t be allowed to do that but do nothing about it. Hehe, Premier League yay best league in the world and it’s LIVE!
The more I hear from Hodgson, the more I warm to him. Crotchety, tells it like it is and probably has way better experience, judgement and football knowledge than anybody on this forum - by a country mile.
Yup. Not sure it was ever grounds to overturn the goal once it was scored but surely if the ref spotted it at the time he should have stopped play just after the thrown in to go and deal with Arteta. And even after the event, assuming he missed it, the 4th official should be calling the ref over to give Arteta a yellow card? Otherwise we just end up in a stupid situation when we (or future opponents) start tasking their own staff to man mark him, for want of a better word.
Yep. Roy knows better than anyone else. Taking off Louza was absolute proof of that. Watford won 1-0 after that substitution, which totally endorsed what he did.
For me this is one of those incidents that would be played to death had Watford done that and scored an important goal at a top six venue. It would be highlighted all week and scowled at. Seeing as it was Arsenal who benefitted, it will be laughed about, the attitude will be of a lighter note, and will not be spoken about beyond the final post-match analysis.
I don’t blame Arsenal for it, that’s points they’ve won in both our games due to nefarious means and good luck to them. A team scrapping at the bottom of the table should be trying every single trick in the book to stay afloat, instead you’ve got players like Cathcart saying “the crying is tomorrow isn’t it” before a big game. We’re passive losers who get what we deserve.
That's the second time I've seen that Cathcart quote. What is the context and what is it supposed to mean?
I’ve stopped watching CyclingGK as I’m not 12, but my understanding is that CyclingGK made a banter comment to Cathcart about not crying in training to which that was the reply. Tomorrow referring to the match. Because we lose most weeks.
Yeah, my 14 year old daughter has given up and my 13 year old sone never watched it as it was "boring". Foster was OK yesterday apart from pointlessly banging his kicks straight into the Arsenal goalie's hands with only minutes to go. Also spent a long time shaking his head after various bits of defending and goals conceded. Didn't seem that the back 4 were "little legends" to him yesterday.
Another loss at home. Very depressing if you don't go to away games. Individual errors cost us but there was some bright sparks in amongst the doom. Pedro was excellent second half and they just couldn't get the ball off him. Louza seems to improve every game, god knows why Hodgson took him off. We had far more energy and and at one point pressed Arsenal as a team which should have resulted in a goal. The annoying thing about that is that we've showed in the past (start of Ranieri's tenure) that we are a good pressing team but for some reason we don't do it. Kiko had a decent as did Cucho and Sissoko. Dennis just frustrates me and he's one of those players I find it difficult to warm to. He has bundles of ability but is incredibly selfish and just not very likeable. Cleverly was dreadful. Should have been off at half time and how he stayed on until the last few minutes was incredible. Kalu. Came on in the 89th minute, beat a player, had a decent shot on target, nearly played a lovely through ball, looked quick and basically, albeit over a very short period of time, a decent player. Why on earth did he play no part against Brighton, Burnley, Norwich or Palace, games that were crying out for some attacking impetus. I hate the constant changing of coaches but how did anybody think Roy was the answer? Where is are due diligence on him and Ranieri. I'm not sure either actually interviewed for the role. Both have proved what most already knew, they are has-beens' and the game has moved on. The same would go Big Sam. I've been more pro Pozzo than most but the decision making on coaches since they sacked Gracia has been laughable Flores! Don't even know where to start with that one Pearson! Had basically done nothing for 5 years Ivic! Looking to get promoted so brings in an ultra defensive coach when with the talent we had, we needed an attacking coach Munoz! Loved the little fella but let's not pretend this was anything but a lucky appointment Ranieri and Hodgson. It looks like they googled old age managers who are not doing a lot currently I would say this has been far worse than the player recruitment It's frustrating because yesterday showed we can play and we can score goals and create chances but we've let far too many winnable games pass us by. We will go down this season but without question it could have been avoided which is hugely irritating
For the manager fiasco? Whoever is in charge of manager recruitment. The one person that should be sacked is that person
Hodgson does not like Watford Football Club one bit, all stemming from his Palace days. Every single post match interview he’s done after a loss he’s had a not-so-subtle dig at the supporters in one way or another. We’re going down with or without him so I could not care less what happens from here on in
More to the point, I think the throw was taken a few yards forwards from where the ball went out, so a ref as clued up as Pawsonful should have ordered a retake. Oh, hang on a second.... I've also got a suspicion that had Saka's dispossession of (not so) Cleverley happened at the other end, he would have blown up for a foul.
It was never a foul, Cleverley knew he hadn’t been fouled and so did all our players. That’s why there wasn’t one appeal for a foul afterwards, just Cleverley doing his frustrated hop and looking to the sky for the answer to why he’s such a ******* idiot. However, you’re right because even if one of their players had such a brain fart moment just outside the box like that, you’d bet the house on them rolling around on the floor while half a dozen team mates surround the ref
Totally agree that was not a foul, but we're rubbish at the dark arts. The referee was right to play on, but had that been Arsenal I suspect it would have been 50/50 whether it was considered a foul or not, because their players would feign injury and, as you say, others would crowd the referee. There is a lot more protection and analysing of injustices to the perceived bigger clubs. This is an unwritten fact of life in the Premier League. Watford do have to complain a lot more about things than they do. They are far too accepting and never challenge a single decision. Put doubts in the referee's mind. You might not get the decision this time, but the next time there is something contentious, it may go your way. Just like the throw in goal Arsenal scored. We'd have never done something like that. We need to be a little cuter and smarter about questionable tactics. Personally, I don't like to be like that, but if you don't do it, you're at a big disadvantage.
Didn't stop play for the spurs throw in they scored from where there were 2 balls on the pitch. These things are not important when the team that should win are beating a make up team in the PL.
If it's Pozzo who is making the ultimate decision then yes but can't see him firing himself. Whoever it is and has an absolute mess of it and as I said I think it 's far worse than player recruitment I have said on numerous occasions that Pozzo has made mistakes I just don't slaughter him for everything that happens
Well that's what many -including myself suspect as the owner is "football person" but Duxbury is the CEO-paid nearly £1m pa and it could be that Pozzo said this is the budget for the year and the debt you can have- the rest-signings/contract length/wages and how you achieve the goal of staying up is up to you Scott-within that budget. I think that's how many others-Arsenal for instance-are run. Maybe relegation will see Duxbury gone-19/20 could be seen as a "one-off" Covid related/in with a shout with 3 games to go-this time there might be changes if/when we go down.
I think in our set up the CEO would be more in charge of commercial decisions, like to do with the new ground as an example, and the day to day running of the club, the nitty gritty of sponsorship deals etc. Gino doesn’t speak in public so he also covers as the club spokesperson/spin doctor. As you say Gino is a football man and I think it’s abundantly clear he’ll be the one making the final decision on any hiring or firing of the Manager. Anybody pretending he isn’t or claiming ignorance just doesn’t want to face reality. I think it’s pie in the sky thinking/denial to imagine Gino, the owner of the club, is just sitting back while Duxbury makes 3/4 managerial appointments per season all of his own accord. Duxbury might thrash out some of the finer details, but it’s painfully obvious Gino pulls the trigger.
AL's come out full Pravda with his report on the game today Don't worry guys, we lost again, for a record consecutive time. But that loss didn't come from a negative place, so it won't affect our position in the table What more could you ask than to be able to cling to a single Cucho goal in yet another loss, once relegation is confirmed?
To me, that's probably an in-joke that Cathcart moans on the pitch during a game. That's what it would mean if I said it to a team mate for my team anyway. Don't think it's much to get upset about, as much as I dislike the majority of Foster's 'content'
Yup. I reckon we could deconstruct most people's workplace banter and subject it to po-faced analysis in order to try and imply it comes from a bad place. I didn't see anything in it personally.
Not sure yet but huge fan of him clickbaiting loads of United (and other) fans into watching his video by titling it "I got Ronaldo's shirt. Massive giveaway!" and then revealing at the very end that he was going to keep Ronaldo's for himself but was giving away Sancho's. Made me almost like the big idiot. #GurningGK
Maybe he trusts somebody else to do this. You're probably correct though and it has been an absolute sh1tfest since Gracia
