Reiterate the comments above, difficult job where he kept us up there. Wins runners up medal for coach of the season. As for his future I think he’d do a decent job for a lower half championship team if he was given the opportunity. Ie a Preston a team without premier league prima donnas and average expectations, where grinding out boring games but getting results and probably pushing for play offs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
He's going to be a very good manager somewhere, just not in this country. Disciplinarians just don't seem to work in football culture here. His record is far too good to be called a fluke. Was 100% behind the appointment but equally 100% behind his removal.
In hindsight, Troy Deeney FC was not the best place for him to start his managerial career in England! I'm sure he'll be a success somewhere, whether in England or abroad, and given our record for hiring and firing, I don't think his time here will have done his reputation any harm at all
I would echo the points above. I think he’d do really well in say a Barnsley type club, with players who are willing to take on board what he wants them to do and trust 100% in the end result. We had far too many egos who won’t execute a plan for very long if they don’t believe in it, rightly or wrongly. If you think of QSF in his first season he picked lesser players out of position because he could trust them to do what he wanted, rather than picking better players who might not do what he wants them to do. I think Ivic needs a team where the players just trust the process and put 100% effort in. I’ve said this before but I reckon pending removal of Deeney from the equation, Ivic would’ve been a better fit for us in the Premier league. We would need to be more defensive and the players would probably buy into this a lot more given the circumstances.
Ivic will be a good manager somewhere I think as some have said. Just coz it didn't work out for us, don't mean it can't work somewhere else.
Others players didn’t like him either. Bachmann was very critical of Ivic on 5live basically saying he had no human side to him and a total lack of personality. I got the impression we could have won every game scoring 3 goals each game in Ivic’s spell and the players would have not taken to him. Unfortunately player power does dominate modern football and the almost has to be a mate rather than the boss.
Interesting, when was this? As a long-time #2, Bachmann certainly does seem like a good egg that wouldn't revolt over nothing
On 5live’s Monday night program the week after the Millwall game . TBF he was asked what difference Munoz made and of course he managed to get into the team and stay there which probably helped. He just didn’t seem very impressed with Ivic as a person but that isn’t to say he isn’t a good manager. We certainly were very solid in defence and had good form at home. All season we were a bit hit and miss on the road as the Luton and Norwich games proved !
He needs to manage in a country where a 1-0 lead normally leads to a win & going 2-0 up means it's game over, not one where even at 0-3 down teams keep coming at you.
I’m not sure that’s true, 95% of the time a 2-0 lead would’ve been game over this season and very often 1-0 was. Don’t get me wrong, we sat on 1-0 leads completely unnecessarily under Ivic and should’ve been going for more in every game regardless, but hardly any championship teams had the ability to score more than 1 goal against us this season.
I meant as a general principle. It has to be admitted that our squad (& Norwich's) were unusually strong relative to others in this season's Champ. In a normal season under normal circumstances in English football, sitting on a 2-0 lead (let alone 1-0) is fraught with danger, more so than in most other countries.
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with playing conservatively (maybe with such an approach we don't go 3-0 down against Peterborough!), especially when you've got so many players missing, but what I think maybe he (and maybe the players) misunderstood was just how **** the Championship had become, QPR second half we shut up shop second half, was one of the relatively few halves of football this season in which we were truly dominated, but at this vantage point it's clear that we didn't have to go to places like Nottingham Forest and Brum just looking for a point (OK, we got lucky at Brum in the end). Maybe the Covid cases before Bristol City spooked him a bit, and they were 3rd at the time, but as we saw soon enough, they had no business being so far up the table
Could have a decent career as a firefighter for teams in relegation trouble. Totally the wrong fit for a team chasing promotion though.
