Ukraine - Catalyst For Ww3

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by AndrewH63, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    FWIW the matelots and Jolly Jack Jack Tars on ARRSE (a few of whom had actually had abandoned a sinking battleship) remarked that none of those Russian sailors on parade had the burns, bruises, black eyes and cuts (covered with dressings etc.) they expected from escaping a burning vessel in 'rough' sea (2-3m waves)...

    EDIT: Appeared in ARRSE thread.

    Screenshot 2022-04-17 at 08-56-52 H I Sutton on Twitter.png

    https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1515428576593592324
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2022
  2. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  3. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Why is that some people who have derided what the Daily Mail say politically are now saying that the Fail is the paragons of virtue ? . What they say or report on is the absolute truth . It's amazing . To me .
    And why does anyone who has been lied to before so that we can go to war seriously believe . That. This time. For sure. We are being told the truth . Yes. I know . At least . 250,000 innocent Iraqi's died because of western propaganda. But this time . You won't get fooled again .
     
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  4. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    You are going to have to give us more here Davy. Who exactly has performed this about turn?

    I disagree with almost everything in the Fail, but both it and I deplore Putin and this terrible invasion. But I’m sure we arrived at that independently.
     
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  5. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    I'm sure you didn't mean it to come out this way, but the logical conclusion to draw from this post is that because we were lied to in order to justify the invasion of Iraq we are now being lied to about Russia having launched an invasion of Ukraine.

    What did you actually mean to say?
     
  6. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  7. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Both sides are part of the same club, we are being lied to on a massive scale. Hail Hydra is a clue.
     
  8. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

  9. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Yep . You nailed it . History will be the judge .
    And a betting man will punt on me . Don't you think ?
     
  10. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    And more importantly don't come looking for my children to fight . Your war .
    Because, and to quote, Roy Keane\John Sitton, I'll be throwing punches .
     
  11. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Nope. I scroll through the ARRSE thread in spare moments (interesting perspective they have). Anything I find surprising I share.

    I also get posts from Belarusian friends but don't share those as they're worried about being identified.

    Why is it a problem for you?
     
  12. Its worse than that

    Moskva only had 180 degree arc radar, so its probable they never saw the missiles coming

    Russian military kit is turning out to be total sh1t
     
  13. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    What exactly are we being lied to about? I don’t doubt there will be lies, from both the Ukranians about the course of the war and the West about it’s level of involvement on the ground. But I’m not sure any of these change my view of who is ultimately responsible and what needs to happen to stop the war, which is a Russian withdrawal.
     
  14. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Not sure what sort of club the Ukrainians are in, to be honest. Maybe the 'get blown to bits and then annihilated club' if Putin gets his way.
     
  15. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    History will be the judge of what? That Russia have NOT invaded Ukraine and committed atrocities? Doubtful I'd have thought.

    We've already had a discussion about past actions making 'The West' less than blameless in the build up of insecurity that has led Putin to make the choices he has, but that in no way exculpates him and his cronies for what they have consciously chosen to do.
     
  16. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  17. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

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  18. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Not a problem for me, just making sure you were ok. I worry about people that get sucked into this nonsense thats all. If the people of Russia and Ukraine and everywhere else could only see they were being played by the same people who sit on both sides then **** like this wouldnt happen.
     
  19. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I'll try to not let thoughts of the armed invasion of a nation state by another aggressor state with the express stated intention of genocide cloud my judgement. Also:
    bollocks.jpeg
    Meanwhile, many of the gore-porn videos (put out by Russian friendly sources) have shown Ukrainian atrocities against Kadyrovites (a Chechen faction - don't forget they are vastly outnumbered by Chechens, Tartars, fighting for Ukraine)> Here's a morale boosting video from Kadyrov (it has to be seen to be believed):

    Screenshot 2022-04-20 at 14-05-10 Dr. Nik Ford on Twitter.png
     
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  20. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Ah yes, the classic manoeuvre of stepping in a puddle then firing a machine gun at the sky while being circled by half a dozen cheap 4x4s.

    I believe they teach that one at West Point.
     
  21. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Stop letting yourself be influenced by the media FFS!
     
  22. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  23. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

  24. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Yes exactly, except DPRK's efforts use a cast of literally 1000's of dancers and singers with an accompanying sound and light show whilst the LPR uses a cast of literally 10.
     
  25. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Well let's be fair here: that's pretty much their entire population of women under the age of 50.
     
  26. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

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  27. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Well the LPR looks and sounds groovy:
     
  28. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Meanwhile...

     
  29. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    30 days ago, the local government of Tver oblast, in Russia, purchased almost 40k of pro-war stickers to put them all over the place - they read "For Russia - for victory" (actually they don't as there's no letter "Z" in Cyrillic):

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    (Un)Fortunately after a month exposed to the sun, they appear slightly different:
    uke2.png
     
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  30. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  31. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  32. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  33. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

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