Traitors - Bbc

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Otter, Dec 15, 2022.

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Who do you wan to win?

Poll closed Dec 20, 2022.
  1. Traitors

    60.0%
  2. Faithfuls

    40.0%
  1. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Agree that surely Kieron will join Will as he’s got nothing to lose by doing so and everything to lose by turning him down. Then the question will be - which of them will throw the other under the bus first. Think the traitors will win now, assuming Kieron joins, but think it’s really harsh on Amanda who, until her mistake in voting for Theo, had played the best game by far of the traitors.
     
  2. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    When they selected Alex to join them, I thought Kieran was a better choice as he was new to the group.
     
  3. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    It was pretty ruthless to turn on Amanda so soon, Maddie and Aaron were very easy prey before he needed to turn on Amanda, although it works out well as absolutely nobody will suspect Kieran, but he wasn’t to know he’d get the chance to recruit him with zero risk, so there was an element of luck to his decision
     
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  4. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I recoreded last nights episode but stupidly read the spoilers, (my fault entirely). Really looking forward to it now as the spoilers are similar to watching the World Cup werewolf play out knowing the roles. I suspected what has been said might happen but you never know for sure how each day will turn out until it does.
     
  5. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    I wonder if the Producers were as surprised as we were that he did that, so decided to offer him the opportunity to recruit to make sure the game carried on for longer. A bit like the “full moon” option in Werewolf.
     
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  6. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    If I was the one recruited to the Traitors last night, I would go straight for Wilf and try and get everyone to vote him off tonight. Then if that person is successful in eliminating Wilf they would be practically nailed on to win the whole thing IMO.
     
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  7. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Would it have been more interesting to watch if the viewers didn't know the roles from the outset?
     
  8. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Another edit where the traitors are kept secret would be a great watch.
     
  9. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Not really, all they had to do on the first episode was to say, "in 5 seconds we will reveal the traitors on screen look away now if you don't want to know".
     
  10. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    That's what I thought initially, but they would have to edit out all the traitor gatherings and the parts where they are on their own talking to the camera. A huge amount of the show gives away who the traitors are.
     
  11. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Again, Wilf is playing a blinder. I thought recruiting Kieran was a good move but already the cracks are showing.

    I can see Wilf manipulating the group and getting rid of Kieran early tonight, and have a feeling it’ll come down to him and Meryl.
     
  12. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Just started watching. Already pretty hooked.

    With my mod hat, interesting game set up. No wolves, three traitors who can kill 1 each night, two masons.
     
  13. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Is he though? I mean, he is in that he’s murdered all the logical, decent faithfuls. But now it’s not so much that he’s playing a good game, but that Hannah and Meryl especially are playing such a bad one. No one suspected Amanda before she went (how has no one noticed that it was Will who put both the banished traitors in the spotlight when no one suspected them before that point) and yet STILL these two say Will is a faithful “100%” - how have they not learned by this stage of the game that you can’t say that about anyone? Plus, yesterday, everyone agreed that the third traitor was going to be a man - then they all voted for Maddie or Meryl :eek: I mean, at this point, frankly the faithfuls do not deserve to win; and especially not Hannah or Meryl, both of whom do my head in. Also, the producers gave Will a massive advantage by allowing him to recruit so late in the game. But I’d rather Kieron than Will wins it.
     
  14. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Who are the masons?
     
  15. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I’ve never understood how nobody picked up on Alissa changing her vote from Alex to Will, especially Maddie who thought Aaron was a traitor for so long because of how he reacted when Will voted for him.
     
  16. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Suprised Kieran has been allowed to basically say it’s Will without actually saying it. I would’ve thought there were rules about how much they can say, there seemingly has been up until now. If they don’t work it out now they deserve nothing, but at the same time I hope Will gets found out for being a greedy pig
     
  17. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Absolutely superb!
     
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  18. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    I’d say he played a great game until tonight. He worked the room and schmoozed without ever going over the top.

    He lost it tonight by messing with Kieran - I could see what he was going to do from a mile off.
     
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  19. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Greed got the better of him, it would’ve been a slam dunk win if they’d both just collaborated, but him turning on Kieran made Kieran angry and it became a self fulfilling prophecy. If he’d been content with £50k he could’ve had it easily, in fact if he’d stuck with Kieran he would’ve had every chance of getting the whole amount anyway.
     
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  20. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Greed is a deadly sin.
     
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  21. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Completely agree. If he’d worked with Kieran they could easily have put Aaron in the frame and split the money. His greed was his downfall. Was glad Hannah finally saw the light and used some common sense.
     
  22. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    And half the money would’ve been the bare minimum. If they’d stuck together and got Aaron out, there is still a chance the others might have suspected Kieran and got him out too, but he wouldn’t have turned on Will, and there is no way in hell the others would’ve voted Will (they almost didn’t want to when it was basically obvious). It would’ve maybe been just Aaron gone which would’ve been half the money, but possibly Kieran as well anyway which would’ve been all of it, so he really did screw up by being so greedy
     
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  23. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    The couple are essentially masons as they both pretty much knew each other were good from the start.
     
  24. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    There was some really flawed logic throughout (unless it was edited out of course). There was clearly no way the producers would choose either of the couple as a Traitor as would completely compromise the whole game yet people persisted in saying this.

    There were some proper knobheads on that show which made it all the better viewing - the smug magician Tom and John for starters. Tom basically derailed the whole show by blurting out that his girlfriend was in there at the first sign of any pressure.

    Anyone that claims to know that they're incredibly good at reading people because of their profession is a first class idiot.

    To be fair to Wilf he played it perfectly and couldn't have known that Kieran would be so noble/weird in the final room.
     
  25. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Couldn’t disagree with the last paragraph more, of course he could’ve know, Kieran’s reaction couldn’t have been more predictable.

    Wilf turned on Kieran at the very first opportunity and he could tell as nobody would spend 2 seconds in the same room with him. Wilf himself ran out of the same room as him as soon as he walked in and started trying to talk to him. Having recruited him as a traitor (which he never wanted to be) and then chucked him under the bus the very next round, Kieran’s reaction was entirely normal and predictable under the circumstances. Kieran was never going to let him have an easy ride to £100k after being stabbed in the back, nobody in their right mind would.

    Why would anyone just let someone who had double crossed them have the £100k completely unchallenged, when they could very easily make sure they don’t and the others get it instead?

    With collaboration they could’ve almost certainly split the money, but instead Wilf made sure they were both pretty much guaranteed nothing.

    Greed got the better of Wilf, and he went home with nothing which is what he deserved in the end. If he’d collaborated with Kieran, at the very worst Wilf would’ve ended up with £50k, but still possibly the whole lot.

    He played a great game until the very end, at which point his judgement was clouded by the money.

    It was very different to Wilf stabbing Amanda in the back, as she didn’t know that had happened until the final vote, but Kieran knew exactly what was coming and did exactly what any of us would’ve.
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2022
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  26. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Could Wilf have chosen not to make himself known to Keiran and just stay as the only traitor or did he have offer the ultimation? Because I would have stayed solo if I had the option
     
  27. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    He had to offer the ultimatum to someone.
     
  28. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I think that was unfair as he virtually had to pair up with someone as nobody was going to choose to be killed! He should have been allowed to remain solo.
     
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  29. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Holy sh*t, some of you need to learn how to use spoilers as many, including me, haven't seen the final yet. Morons.
     
  30. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If you haven’t seen the final I can think of something more moronic than not using spoilers….
     
  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Sorry! I binge watched the last few last night and had it in my head that the final had been a few days earlier so most people that were interested would've seen it.
     
  32. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Feck sake, use the spoiler tag. I just said a few posts before I’m only a few episodes in.
     
  33. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I get that it’s frustrating, but if everyone used the spoiler tag and you’re not up to date with the episodes, what were you hoping to read/see in here instead?

    Surely it would just be pages of these things, so what would be the point of looking in here? You're surely either going to see spoilers, or just loads of these? I didn’t watch the penultimate episode until last night, so I avoided this thread. It worked pretty well as a strategy. If you’re only a few episodes in then well, surely the whole thing would need to be spoilered for you, so again a pointless thread to look at surely?
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2022
  34. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Well then lets just dump the spoiler tags. How dare I want to come in to a thread to give my opinion on what happened Tuesdays episode.
     
  35. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    But someone else is complaining about spoilers who has only watched a couple of episodes, so you would’ve ruined it for them? Unless you’re up to date you run the risk of spoilers by looking at the thread, unless literally every post is spoilered, in which case the thread becomes redundant as there would be nothing to read.
     

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