Unfortunately there is at least two tier policing, maybe more, but not in the way the media describe or want us to believe. As soon as the police come out and say that they handle different protests and protest groups based on operational need and risk, then they are using different levels of policing in some form. This though is lead by the local PCC and local chief constable about how they see policing in their area and their communities. While there are 40 or so PCC and 50 chief constables policing in a way that they see right for their communities and the operational risk and need in their area, then you are going to get different approaches, a lack of consistency and different policing. On a day to day basis that works and I have no problem with that. When its something like the last week, there needs to be a more strategic and consistent approach across the country.
The situation in Gaza is horrendous all round. From the attacks in October, right the way through to what is happening today, both with unnecessary killings, lack of aid being allowed through or hostages being held. As you will have seen, there have been anti Jewish demonstrations in London and as well as across the country. This is very different from Pro Palestine support.
As I said, 40+ PCC and 50 CC's make the local decisions and sets local policy and policing. But ultimately the home secretary has the ultimate oversee as does the government. There needs to be a national response or strategy in place for such things as the last week.
Not knowing what events you went to, that's impossible to answer. But I'm pretty sure that if your mother in law is Jewish she wasn't rallying for harm on the Jewish community.
I wouldn't describe that as two tier policing myself though. As it stands, police in different areas of the country have different levels of resources and responses. They are not dealing with people, or their communities, differently based on their ethnicity or economic situation. I would accept that there is some evidence that, in the name of "not stoking racial tension, some police regions decided to deploy a softly softly approach with some communities. That was a huge mistake imho. Equally though, there is evidence, especially in the MET, that minorities are still targeted and racism exists within the force. On the whole, I think the police do a great job and try their hardest to be fair and just.
It’s not two tier policing to treat protests differently to riots. Waving a placard around in the name of something is wholly different to setting fire to hotels.
You are absolutely 100% right on all of this, but as you say because police forces have to deploy different approach, whether that's by community or so that they don't stoke tensions, it means that there is a natural multi tier approach to policing. The media will have you believe that all policing is inner city and all racial community lead, which is a twist on reality.
It was one of Suella Braverman's "hate marches". And of course she wasn't. And nor was I, or at least 95% of the people on that march, and 100% of the people around me. If you are that horrified about the appalling civilian casualties maybe you should have been there too. @Mods can we move this to the Gaza thread before it derails this one?
Interesting that the stiff punishments handed down to the rioters appear to have put others off taking part. I wonder if anyone might consider it worth trying something similar for drug dealers, burglars, anti-social yobs, rapists etc etc
Errrrr... as someone from the 'Wood and lives there anyone know where this fine establishment Akchewally is? Oakland's college has an 'office' in the 'Wood (doing TEFL?). It keeps that on the site of the former FE college - that was flattened for a new housing development. I can only assume that it's there because of some stipulation (from the council) that the college still has to exist on the site. And Murray was on Bill Maher's thing the other week. Maher had him on because Murray's been 'reporting' (sic.) from Gaza. Such was Maher's worship of the tool that I thought that he was going to start blowing him...
Which is one reason why I'm not particularly comfortable with the PCC concept, especially when you take a look at some of the d1ckheads fulfilling the role.
I'm not sure your conclusion naturally follows. The first phase is to analyse operational need & risk, which they apply to all situations; the fact that those needs & risks may dictate different tactics does not automatically mean those tactics are indicative of '2 tier' or even 'different' policing per se.
Palestinian marches : after first they would know that the vast majority of participants are peaceful, families, elderly women etc. Get are cahntry back marches : They would be fully aware who they were dealing with after Tommeh's thugs tried to 'protect' the Cenotaph last year. Operational risk dictates approach, not preferential 'two tier' policing.
They’re jailing people for lying on TikTok now https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czrg70xgm5zo two tier policing etc
I'd like to see all the people who look at tiktok banged up. And Twitter and Facebook and especially the f***ing tragic hustlers who post their views on linked in
So a stabbing yesterday in Leicester Square stopped by Abdullah, who jumped on the white aggressor and probably saved the Mother and daughters lives. Any protests planned, or is it only when brown skinned people attack?
You've fallen for the lamestream media narrative. You see, what actually happened was Abdullah was the attacker, but the police were so afraid of being labelled racist that they blamed the hero who intervened, and then pretended the perp was the hero. I know this because some random account on Twitter called @FartSniffer420 said so.
Another violent incident is all grist to the mill, whatever the details. Tommy Robinson and Co were very active on it until the pictures emerged. That’s enough for it to echo around the World as another incident. However, it’s likely to kick off today again as it appears the man charged has a Romanian name. There’s a balance to be had, because it’s a worrying attack for public safety and demands consideration of how it can be prevented beyond attacking minorities.
Romanian name, but white and if he is from Romania they are a Christian country in the EU. So a difficult one for Tommy and Nige to get their heads round.
The bottom line is that these attacks are nothing to do with religion or skin colour. They are all, almost without exception, a breakdown in social care that results in people with mental issues roaming the street. The revelations that have come out of the Nottingham knife attack review are shocking. Whether it's due to incompetence or lack of resources, these mistakes are totally unacceptable. Nobody will attack random people unless the attacker is mentally ill. The whole discussion about skin colour or where people, or their families, originated from is just a divisive distraction imho.
We need more judges like Judge Linford down in Plymouth... https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/judge-savagely-puts-plymouth-rioter-9479578
Interesting article in The Times about the rioters and their influences. Unsurprisingly Robinson, Farage and Tice all get a mention. Here's a paywall free version..... https://archive.ph/ydele Edit....non seem to mention their left wing leanings or Labour support. Funny that.
