With Sarr out, good chance to try this guy with Davis and Pedro behind for two home games in a row. Back 4, put Sema in a midfield 3 with Louza & HC and get them working. JP in the 10 / free role to provide some width and HA & KD up top. Nothing else to lose at this point.
Poor guy cannot wait to get back to Benfica where he'll relate his stories of being mentally abused by the Watford Way. Imagine seeing his club and fellow players striding along to success in Europe and domestically while he's here lost in the black hole of incompetence at London Colney.
I’ve seen him play and I think he’s decent. We need to accommodate him though. Build a system that will get the best out of him. He’s not a leading striker, but he’ll do well in a partnership. We’ve never tried this, apart from the final 10 minutes with Assombalonga, which will never work. I’ve not given up on Davis, as many have. I don’t think players inherently want to lose, but I do think they switch off when they think what they’re doing is pointless and futile. They need to see a point to it all. If they see attack after attack come to nothing, then it’s understandable players will tend to just go through the motions. Putting Araujo and Davis together will give us a different dimension. Maybe it will work. We’ll not know unless we try. Then there’s the relationship with Benfica to think of. They are a great club to pal up with, but if we ruin that trust, as we did with United over Garner, it will really hurt us in future potential trades. Let’s face it. This season is done now. It won’t hurt playing Araujo for the final 10 games. We dont score without him, so it’s not like we’re going to go backwards with him in the side.
Good point, but could Costa override this? After all, as of now, it's just one flop, rather than a whole raft
He cannot even get on instead of Assabolonga... that is even more worrying. Another waste of money who will probably be sat on the bench till May, then shipped off. Fantastic recruitment as always,
Ridiculous that Wilder didn’t bring him on. We needed a goal, and he’s completely ingnored. Davis was struggling after 70mins and stayed on. If I was Araujo I would be asking for my loan to cut and head back to Benfica.
Davis I understand and he’s scored twice so fine. But how this guy can’t be ahead of Brit in the pecking order is weird, he must be terrible in training.
Chris Wilder was always going to favour sh1te unfit lumps ahead of proper finishers. Dumb appointment. Way to ruin a potential relationship with Benfica.
Can certainly imagine this makes Costa's job just that little bit more difficult, if any time she tries to exploit that connection in the future she has to manoeuvre around the elephant of this absolutely catastrophic and ill-thought-through loan.
Billy Sharp - their top scorer under Wilder when he got Sheffield Utd promoted - is a "sh1te unfit lump" and not a "proper finisher"?!?!
With the season basically already finished, I think it's worth to revisit what I posted just before his signing was even confirmed: And after he'd played a few games: I think it's fair to say that this was indeed "a pointless loan signing" and that therefore my opinion has aged pretty well, by contrast to the "sunken ships" of most on here looking back on this thread.
Well we have hardly see n him to make a true and fair opinion on his ability but yes guess it has been a waste of a loan .
He's played more minutes than it took Archer to get his first goal for Boro - I think we've all agreed that's basically the yardstick at which point we can expect them to start producing.
Look at the team Archer plays at and look at the team we have. Comparisons can't always be made like that. I still believe he is a quality striker and if he was at Boro or Burnely, he would have at least 4 goals by now.
And very different players plus Archer has experience of the Championship too. Didn’t help the 2 games I’ve seen him in he was alone up front against 2 physical defenders. Yes I know he has to adapt and learn but then none of our strikers have really .
Oh Rousey boy you silly billy, you just can’t help yourself can you? How about we post the full quote that was actually entirely about Cucho here instead: So instead of trying to make yourself look clever on the internet to strangers you’ve in fact made yourself look like a bit of a *** again, when will you learn aye? I’m afraid as much as you always like to try and make yourself look clever, it will be a long time before the stench of your opinion about Cucho is forgotten. Do better mate.
Your full quote claims that I supposedly: "did the exact same thing" with Cucho as I was doing with Araujo, which was supposedly clinging to a "sinking ship of an opinion". It's evidently therefore not "actually entirely about Cucho" as you claimed I was doing the same thing again with Araujo. I can't tell if you claiming that it to the contrary is either you being a disingenuous liar or just a straight up fool.
What is the point in dragging up a post from a few weeks ago? I know you do this a lot but it does make you look a bit odd
Exactly. In today's football world it's nice to have those links. They do produce from their own Academy namely the entirety of Portugal and recruit well from South America.
Because it's one thing having an opinion about something before it's happened, and it's another evaluating whether said opinion was correct or not once you can look back on it. If posters give you pelters for disagreeing with them on what might happen in future, then it's surely warranted to reply to them if it turns out more like what you'd said. I'm sure your objection to this thread being revived has nothing to do with you thinking that our signing Araujo on loan "Might be an easy win if it goes through".
Araujo - 0 goals in 239 minutes = "proper finisher" Assombalonga - 2 goals in 164 minutes = presumably not a "proper finisher" Maybe both Bilic and Wilder saw both on the pitch and in training what seemed clear enough on the pitch already with him.
But had he been a success I wouldn’t have gone searching for a post where I said he would be a good signing. I’ve been right about other signings and wrong on others. I just don’t go searching for the ones I was right about to show everybody that I’m better than them. It is not a good trait you have in that regard In the player, I watched him at Reading and he was very decent and really don’t understand how he has completely disappeared considering we struggle to score goals.
It’s the scattergun recruitment again. If you want someone to play as a lone striker as a backup to Davis because he gets injured, then sign that type of player, which Araujo is not. I too think he’s probably a good goal scorer, from what little we’ve seen, but I suspect Bilic realised he wasn’t what was needed. The disappointment for me is that Wilder, as a new manager, hasn’t tried to utilise him in a pairing up front.
Maybe all the talent scouts and analysts are wrong and you as usual are right. His performances for Benfica B, in the Youth League,Portugual's u21 and has always been a prolific scorer. That the circumstances at Watford with a below par midfield, lack of movement, chance creation and someone to play off are lacking are non factors. As KGT said you really have not learnt from your previous behaviour acting all high and mighty with regards to other posters pointing out their 'mistakes' while furiously back pedalling on your own. Shall I mention Adolfo Gaich ? You're very petty minded. And if you choose to keep addressing other posters as idiots you'll be getting a ban. Comprende ?
I don’t think anyone is saying he isn’t a promising talent, the question is just whether he was a sensible loan signing for 4.5 months. The facts are that neither coach has played him (rightly or wrongly) which suggests it wasn’t a great signing in this case. Posters have a go at LR for shouting out when he’s proved right, but are very quick to shout out when he’s wrong. Personally I don’t get the need for animosity (if that’s the right word). If posters are less inclined to point out mistakes, I’m sure there’d be less desire to point out successes ? I like LRs posts. They’re only opinions, but based on plenty of facts that I can’t be bothered to research myself. Some will be right, some will be wrong. That’s fine isn’t it ? I should add that there are plenty of other posters who have a deep knowledge of the sport, tactics and potential signings, whose posts are always an interesting read.
Easy for you to say now. It's not just about that though, for instance by pointing out where other have made mistakes, often due to their own biases, they can perhaps learn from them. Also, why do people share their opinion on a player on a message board anyway if they don't care one bit whether it'll be correct or not?! In putting forward an opinion on here which disagrees with someone else's, it is totally warranted to reply pointing out when it was incorrect. And anyway, if I was to "go searching" to revive all the ones I was right about it would take an age because it would be the majority. It would be pointless as I don't always have an opinion which some other posters make a point of massively disagreeing with, and sometimes it's also in line with the general consensus. I don't typically "go searching" anyway as usually there are certain threads and topics which stick in the mind because of how contentious/heated/interesting they were initially. I generally only bother in cases like this one where either: certain posters have given me stick for disagreeing with them about it earlier; and/or it went against the majority consensus; and/or it was a particularly astute observation. This instance with Araujo was particularly amusing and rare, for instance, because it was one of the very few occasions in recent years when the majority of posters were actually upbeat about a signing - including the wettest of bed-wetters. The other notable recent occasion being when Louza signed. So I think it's interesting and perhaps telling that on the rare occasion that some bed-wetters have been positive and not wet the bed about a signing they were generally mistaken to have done so . Also, if you've ever made a particularly astute observation on here which was in clear contrast to what most others thought and which other posters gave you stick for - then I'd say by all means do go and revive it; I won't say it's a negative trait of you to do so. But it's probably rather the case that there are very few, if any examples of such things, if you're even capable of remembering your own opinions.
Araujo is only 21 and he’s played 6 games. It’s far, far too early to make any sort of judgement on him, so the fact you feel the need to dredge up old quotes and heavily edit them to claim some sort of ‘win’ about your opinion on him is both deeply strange and utterly pointless. The quote you edited from me was regarding Cucho, because you did the exact same thing with him and then just made yourself look more and more silly when he turned out to be an incredibly decent player, so it’s baffling why you’d risk doing the same thing to yourself with a young player after just 6 games just to score points. Araujo might be a complete dud, he might be great. Who knows at this stage, certainly not you.
