Four Hours At The Capitol

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Moose, Oct 22, 2021.

  1. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    I hope you guys now agree with me, and believe that voter fraud is a serious issue which should be properly investigated and prosecuted.

    I hope they get everyone involved in voter fraud.

    #voterfraudisbadnow
     
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  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  3. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

  4. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    So Trump's going to sue over a made up bunch of rubbish that finally concluded he did nothing, whch was deliberately used to stifle his first term, and you think it is all just a grift?

    What part of the Mueller report, the Steele report, Adam Shiff's lying and Hilary's email server going missing, do you think the Dems should be most proud of?

    What part of it do you believe Trump should be most forgiving of?

    And doxing? Really? They are defendents, there is no requirement that their addresses be hidden. It is not improper to do so. Else that article would have mentioned that it was.

    The worst they could do was say,"well Trump gave their addressses, but only gave his lawyers address."

    If he is naming them for the first time in the case, and can legitimately claim he is unaware who they will wish to represent themselves, then he has a choice to either fail to identify them fully, or to give their known addresses. Their may well be some shenannigens, but doxing? Nah.

    You are undermining any serious point you have by grasping for very questionable trifles.
     
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  5. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Federal Judge says what now?!

    https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/citing-security-threats-judge-orders-trump-lawyers-to-remove-sensitive-home-addresses-of-ex-fbi-agents-and-leaders-in-lawsuit-against-hillary-clinton/
     
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  6. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  7. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

  8. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    The US government has no credibility with regard to 6 Jan. Biden's administration are no longer taken seriously. Not by anyone. Your boy is a third world war threatening dud.

    You are the person who first pointed out the politicising of the judiciary in America, so don't be surprised when someone says that the judge has acted in the interests of the Dems in order to go fishing in Trumps pond.

    This stuff happens. Whether it is justified or not, who knows or cares anymore, because to your anti Trump delight, anything goes, as long as you are prepared to brazen it out and blame Trump.

    You haven't mentioned the changes that have occurred in other cases against Trump, with resignations and 'paused' processes in cases that have not been able to gather any serious information against him in six years.

    The Dems are desperate to get something to stick before this year's elections, because the likelyhood is that they will be the next ones getting the SS treatment, they are currently dishing out right now, if they lose. They have set a precedent, and if they get back what they have been dishing out, then good.

    Your pathetic argument against the EU treaties, saying they did not prevent EU involvement in UK politics, showed you up for what you are.

    Even if you have something serious to say in future, I will treat it with the same contempt with which you treat me and EU law.
     
  9. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Ah. I've seen you do this with others on here. I'll be frank with you - things are going to get tedious very quickly if you're going to bring your butthurt into every thread and conversation from now on. I'm not sure I've ever seen you pretending to be this embittered with me before and so possibly I've hit a nerve. I'll say this: everything you got in that thread you brought on yourself. You invited it and pushed me to respond with your incessant posting, calling me out by name multiple times when I said I was done with it and some rather lame personal attacks too. I haven't the foggiest what you really expected to happen other than it to be reflected back at you.

    Don't take everything so seriously would be my advice. The time and effort you put into that multi-day but extremely niche debate, just to end up convincing no one other than yourself, may well have taken its toll. I'd honestly forgotten about it a couple of hours later. A bit of forum fluff, nothing more. I don't do grudges on here.

    Anyway, rest assured every time you mention that debate again on any thread I simply won't engage with you. I can't say it clearer than that. Entirely your choice what happens next.
     
  10. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    UEA, you were not engaging with me anyway. So what is there to lose?

    And if you guys are OK to take it seriously, then so will I. What are the names I have been called on here for my opinions, or the accusations about my character that have been made because I disagree with people. Maybe sort your own side out first. When I have called people racist it is because they have said racist things. You know that.

    Your post above, though not without some fair criticism of me, is also a very severe case of projection. You asked me for proof, and I gave it. I asked you for proof, and got called an idiot, and ended up with you telling me that the EU doesn't mean what it says, and that their treaties mean nothing. How are we supposed to have a conversation when you do that?

    Yes, I do rant. But I respond honestly and without insult to you.

    What is not to get a little dissappointed about on a discussion forum?
     
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  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  12. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    My goodness! Who on earth do you think you are? Should I put the kids in the panic room and stand on guard with my air pistol and pen knife?

    You could have just engaged in the conversation man. You could have just accepted what I said with grace. I gave you the opportunity to prove me wrong, by quoting the law that proved me wrong, but you doubled down on your "the treaties are wrong, the EU didn't say what it said in its declaration" schtick.

    Every time I used your name it was to point out that you were refusing to respond to what I was saying, and were choosing instead to deny the EU's own laws and statements. Offering you the chance to respond and explain yourself.

    That is the purpose of this forum. To discuss subjects we disagree on. To supporg our beliefs and listen to those of others. I listened to you, and I responded to every question you asked me. All you did was call me an idiot. That's OK, but I expect you to back it up.

    It is you that made a fool of yourself, and all you are doing is proving that you cannot handle it.

    You chaps are dangerous to yourselves, if you can't even deal with a conversation in a football forum.

    Like you say. Don't take it so seriously.
     
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  13. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    He he!

    Some irony in that one…

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...us-felonies-prosecutor-told-manhattan-da.html

    Or to summarise: “Trump is definitely guilty, but, after six years, we just can’t find any evidence to support our lurid fantasies. But it is there. I tell you. No! don’t lock me away! It’s Trump. He’s coming. He’s in the trees!!”
     
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  14. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Things looking really good for the Biden family, as it is finally proven that the alleged 'Hunter Biden' laptop had nothing to do with the President's crack head son after all.

    The Democrat press are coming out to celebrate that the their refusal to cover the laptop story leading up to the 2020 election was entirely justified, and that righteousness was served. Facebook and Twitter have been exonerated for banning any mention of the contents of the laptop, including the suspension of the New York Post's twitter account, due to the claims of ownership being unsubtantiated, despite a letter from Biden's lawyer asking for his client's laptop back. All this, even though they had no issue with other media outlets reproducing unverified copies of Trump's tax returns (which, incidentally, showed that Trump was innocent of any wrong doing).

    This news will take a lot of heat off of the Biden crime family, as if any link had been established, Hunter, his uncle James and 'the big guy' (verified by other parties as being Joe) may have come under some scrutiny such as criminal investigation.

    But let's face it. Even if there had been a link, nothing would have happened anyway, because the swamp is full of swamp type things.

    Sorry if I got any of that slightly wrong.
     
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  15. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    More good news for the Democrats, as the Federal Election Commission completely clears Hillary Clinton and the DNC of any wrong doing with regards to funding the research that produced the entirely accurate and verified piece of research commonly known as the Steele Dosier, which, along with Adam Schiff's elusive whislteblower who spent nearly a year promising to turn up and give his evidence, was the very substance of the charges of Russian collusion by Trump.

    Hillary, it has been found, did not try to hide, at all, the fact that she and the Dems had paid for the Steele Report through a number of 'middle man' businesses, claiming that they didn't technically fund it, they just funded the company that actually paid for it on their behalf. The totally upstanding method of funding for the report was revealed by its author through the UK's 'Russia Report', and, despite the impeccable contents of the report being revealed to be a pack of old lies, it remains a point of assumed knowledge that Trump was up to his ears in it.

    This has a huge bareing on Trump's recently taken court case (wierd timing eh?), as there not being a link between Hillary and the Dossier makes it much harder for him to prove that anyone was acting in bad faith to make him look bad, or to get him impeached over a pack of lies.

    Again, I am sorry if I got anything wrong, but I really am trying to see the world how you guys see it.
     
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  16. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Concludes another rotten week in the courts for Trump.
     
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  17. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

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  19. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

  20. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Sadly, there are far too many of those in the US. Far, far too many.

    I honestly think the US is terminal at this point. There are just too many people here in utter denial of reality, and it's getting worse, not better.
     
  21. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Would be very interested to hear what you believe the reality is, and who you think it is that is denying it...
     
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    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  23. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Of course he can. He's bigly yuge rich.
     
  24. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Anyone still got any doubts about the left being a bunch of fascists bent on shutting up free speech and anyone that disagrees with them.

    Musk hasn't even taken over yet, and already right wing commentators and liberalist left wingers, recently condemned as racists, Uncle Toms and traitors, have been suddenly finding they are getting new followers flooding out of their anus, even though some of them haven't even been posting recently. It's almost as if the 'algorithm' that was being used up until the other day was keeping new twiterati from them, but is no longer doing so.

    And Joe Biden, having not seen the need to worry about big tech disinformation previously, has now initiated a new Disinformation Governance Board, headed by a woman who most recently brought herself to political attention by using disinformation to protect Joe Biden, saying that Hunter Biden's actual lap top was Trump disinformation. A story that was hidden by Twitter, the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, etc., all did everything they could to suppress. They are no longer able to deny that it is his lap top, and that its contents are shockingly revealing of Joe Biden's unsavoury use of power to make money. In the UK, it would be a bit like the BBC, the Independent, the Guardian, et. refusing to cover Partygate, or say it was EU misinformation.

    Musk has caused great consternation from anti-free speech left wing fascists in the US. My favourite is a news caster, almost in tears, saying about how Musk could suppress people's posts, shadow ban opinions, suspend politicians, etc., describing what all the social media tech giants have been openly and brazenly doing to US conservatives for the last three or more years. Trump is still banned from Twitter, whilst Putin and other terrorist groups are still permitted accounts.

    God knows what Musk is going to do with Twitter, but I do not think that claims of him taking over being tantamount to Hitler taking over are particularly to the point.

    The mask is off with the US left (though some of us have seen it for a long time already, you may have noted). They are a bunch of fascists, and they are acting just like the nazis or the commies of the 20th Century. Hopefully, their overstepping the mark before they having reached the tipping point will be their undoing.
     
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  25. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    No charges against Trump forthcoming from the now expired New York grand jury investigation. But, have a read of this balanced and totallt unbiased piece from CNN, which appears to find him guilty by the opinion of two failed prosecution lawyers who were told that the evidence they had accumulated after nearly six years just didn't cut it...

    https://www.salon.com/2022/04/28/ma...r-concluding-committed-crimes-report_partner/

    You have to ask the question. What would you expect a prosecutor who is also a rampant anti Trumper to say, when there is no chance of them being held to account? The only thing you need understand, to know they were talking bull, is that if there had been any chance of prosecution, the Dems would not have been able to stop themselves from going ahead.

    Democrats really are the biggest bunch of ****s imaginable. Everything they said about Trump was pure projection. Even after six years of digging for the slenderest morsel that might make Trump look bad, and they can't find a thing. How clean must Trump be? Particularly compared to Biden, who under any other circumstances would have come under investigation for corruption and potential millions in un-declared earnings.

    But he presented his tax returns and they were all clear, untill the contents of Hunter's laptop became public. Trump's stolen and then published tax returns showed him to be clean as a whistle.
     
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  26. reids

    reids First Team

    Another far right terror attack in America over the weekend. Horrible to see.
     
  27. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    There will be many people in the US who care an awful lot more about the rights of Kyle Rittenhouse than about the people this terrorist has killed. That’s the predicament facing the US in a nutshell.
     
  28. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    More kids will die tonight across the USA in gang related killings and no one will care .
    That's not true . I care . But I know highlighting this stuff is not good for white liberals
    and their image .
    But hey . Whatever makes you feel good .....
     
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  29. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Utter nonsense.
     
  30. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Not even that. They dismiss it as being a psyop by the government because the manifesto lines up too cleanly with "things people want to ban".

    It's pure fantasyland.
     
  31. reids

    reids First Team

    Ah that's fine then. Let's ignore these attacks and why they happen then, seems logical.
     
  32. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Do you know how many Black on black mass shootings happen virtually every week, without you bothering to mention it?

    This mad, detestable lunatic is a contributor to violence against Black Americans, predominantly perpetrated by other black Americans, not the source of it. When was the last time a mass shooting of Black Americans was carried out by a white supremacist,yet there have been something like five or six such mass shootings in the last month alone. But you, like everyone else, know f all about it, And couldn't give a poop when it happens, because it doesn't achieve any political goal for you.

    Aside from Black on black violence, do you even know about Waukesha or the recent New York attack on White Americans by BLM sympathisers? Such attacks have become more common than White supremacist attacks, which are relatively rare, even if it is tragic that they still happen.

    In the US, there are Black conservatives ironically cheering on behalf of the democrats because, finally, a mass shooting of Black people has been perpetrated by a white man.

    Ignorance is bliss, and this thread is wilfully full of it.
     
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  33. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    There is seemingly no end to the defensive reflex of some white people.
     
  34. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Gang violence, born out of poverty and drug abuse, is a big issue in the US. And yes, it is predominantly "black on black" because in poverty stricken cities, like Detroit, most of those in poverty are black.

    To say "no one cares" about that is, quite frankly, insulting.

    But the attack in Buffalo was a racist hate crime pure and simple. The fact that it was "white on black" is pertinent for that reason.

    Comparing it to the "black on black" violent crime to these types of racist attacks is disingenuous whataboutery that ignores the different motives behind the violence.

    If you crack down on drugs and poverty the "black on black" violence will reduce. But that will not reduce the predominantly "white on black" racism that exists in the western world today and these murderous attacks that results from it.
     
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  35. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Liberals and socialists share the view that you should look for reasons for what happens in the World. In respect of gang-related violence two things stand out in the US, poverty and guns and both liberals and socialists are pretty down on those.

    What is the right wing’s view of those problems? They seem pretty keen to keep things the same. Even moderate measures against poverty or gun control are greeted as uncontrolled Stalinism.

    If you want to point the finger at liberals what is it your prefer about the right’s analysis? And if race is so important here, why no soul searching as to why white people are killing and raping their neighbours in Ukraine? No characterisation of that as a ‘white on white’ crime. No calling out liberals for missing the elephant in the room.

    I would urge you to disassociate yourself from Hooter and his obnoxious World-view and exaggerations. From Christchurch, to Norway, to the US, white supremacist violence is a curse and all of us should call out the philosophies behind it.
     
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