F1/ Formula E/ Motorsport Thread

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by hornmeister, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. Chewitt

    Chewitt Forum Extraordinaire

    Decent race shaping up here, aside from the one for 1st place of course
     
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  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes - almost need a separate Championship and threat of rain.

    Shame for Norris his race was ruined on lap one .
     
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  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Barcelona's often a good GP. Baffles me why all the new tracks they keep building are tedious street circuits with fast blind corners and limited overtaking opportunities. I know F1 is chasing money by setting up in places like Jeddah and Las Vegas, but surely they should only be allowing the best track designs.
     
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  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    They took out a chicane for this year to make better racing but the trouble is Red Bull are just so good and as you say are cars scared to pass on some tracks due to it being so tight .
     
  5. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  6. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    F1 has boxed itself into a corner for years chasing revenue options over exciting races .

    They need a complete overhaul of the sport to make it a contest between humans instead of machines .

    An interesting comparison is with chess which many predicted would die a death when computers overtook humans , but then the converse happened with chess now being played by more people than ever .
     
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  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I guess it's much like Ferrari in the 00s.

    Mercedes in the 2010s once Vettel left Red Bull.

    Trouble is even the in driver competition is so one sided too.
     
  8. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Such a watchable sport at the moment F1, innit?

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/time-penalties-after-austrian-grand-prix-fia-investigation/
    Got all that?

    Meanwhile Max sends everyone to sleep with another win.
     
  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Happened all weekend .

    Obviously an issue with the track kerb.

    Can they channel the kerb or add something like a raised edge?

    Apparently the track is more suited to Moto GP.

    But as it’s Red Bull’s track they will keep going to Austria.

    Verstappen did actually not lead for about 2 laps !

    Only after a pit stop though .
     
  10. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Gravel traps is the physical answer, but that's crap safetywise for the bikes.

    Only way to fix it is to disable the electric boost system for a lap until the use the right part of the track on the next time round. But that needs an automatic detection rather than camera review. Must be doable with some sort of sensor system.
     
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  11. scummybear

    scummybear Reservist

    Watching indycar this weekend, gravel traps aren't great for openwheel cars either!

    I think the answer is to start the grass (or astro) right at the edge of the kerb, rather than tarmac beyond it. It reduces traction enough to dissuade drivers, but doesn't dig in causing accidents.

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  12. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

  13. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Very sad indeed .

    Particularly so young .

    Spa is iconic but dangerous it seems.
     
  14. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Damien Lewis is wasted as an actor, his rendition of God Save The King/Careless Whisper was sensational.
     
  15. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Nice to see a British 1-2 in the British GP.

    :rolleyes:

    I mean might as well be a different Championship.
     
  16. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Ricciardo is back!
     
  17. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Watch out Checo Perez !
     
  18. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Yeah, I think Perez is toast. A dream #2 (and he definitely is a #2) and gets disrespected. Now he's struggling, they have the perfect narrative.
     
  19. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    He appears to be wasted when he's singing as well if that was anything to go by.
     
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  20. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Upgrades are too late to change where the title is going but things are getting far more competitive
     
  21. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

  22. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired



    Been a while since I watched this.
     
  23. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I'm not so sure, the weather closed them all up on Sunday.
     
  24. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    And they are all inconsistent and unreliable so don’t really get a steady run of results .

    Only Verstappen is which is why he is so dominant.
     
  25. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    It's boring isn't it ? Mercedes now Red Bull. Yawn.
     
  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  27. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Agreed. Watched yesterday as I hoped for a Ferrari surprise but as soon as Max overtook I turned off and went and mowed the lawn. It was more exciting.
     
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  28. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Think I'm done with it. Sky's coverage is excellent (apart from Nico Rosberg), but the interest just isn't there for me anymore. I've got better things to do at the weekend than spend hours watching a rigged procession. My Sky contract is up and I think I'm cancelling.

    Sad because I've been an avid fan since before the Mansell/Murray Walker days.
     
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  29. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    The race behind was actually quite interesting and competitive but alas people want to see a race for the win.

    Not the minor places every time.

    And even now Perez seems to have got his act together to make it a Red Bull 1-2.
     
  30. scummybear

    scummybear Reservist

    Interestingly the interview on the BBC is much more magnanimous:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/66704998
    It's hard to disagree with anything he's said.

    Monza is boring as a spectacle though, there's only one overtaking point and even that is only half an opportunity thanks to the general nature of chicanes and the racing line. Anything else is just capitalising on a mistake or overtaking in the pits. Mugello and Imola are better circuits.
     
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  31. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    His own team and it's huge budget is part of the problem. The playing field is so imbalanced as with many sports thanks to a few very rich teams altering and trying to control the rules in their favour. Toto can toto as far as I'm concerned. It's so less ab out the driver than the car. Where is Bottas now ? Remember Hill in the Brabham before winning a title with Williams. He was their test driver but still. It's all rather tedious. One prays for rain for some interest and even with moderate rain the driver's don't want to drive. It's all a huge yawnfest. Sky can bore off too.
     
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  32. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Watching Verstappen dominate as much as he has has been enjoyable. Love the radio messages between him and his guy in the pits. Perez has got the same car but is no where near him, the consistency Max is showing is phenomenal, he usually dominates on sim racing too which is crazy. If you ignore Max flying off to win the rest of the racing is pretty tight with some good action.

    I can only remember a few seasons where one team or driver didnt dominate to be honest and most of those were in the 80s, I have been a fan of the sport since the early 80s.
     
  33. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member


    How long is it before Dad says enough is enough ? Another example of privilege with someone unqualified for the job getting that job.
     
  34. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Exactly .

    They will want someone to at least compete with Alonso .

    If Verstappen wins today from this situation given his comments and Red Bull’s performance then we might as well give up !
     
  35. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    The stewards giving Max the best chance to get some points, how did he not get at least 1 grid place penalty?
     

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