Dentists. Con Men Stealing Your Teeth?

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by Hornpete, Mar 6, 2023.

  1. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    Not all dentists. But my opinion is that they charge you an enormous amount for work that as often as not probably doesn't need doing. Removing teeth for money is always going to result in bad practice.

    I had a couple of them (husband and wife) that lived next door. Smoked pot in their garden all the time and we could hear them laughing about the dumb people that lived in town and moaning about NHS patients at their practices. Both drove pristine white BMWs with personalised plates which I thought was typical.
     
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  2. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    The Dental profession has strong standards of conduct and competency. If you read a few cases of those disciplined for breaches of those standards, you’d be very alarmed indeed. However that’s true of any profession.

    I’ve always wondered about how those people who want to be dentists make that decision. The rewards are big, but it’s a lifetime of looking at people’s teeth and then undertaking sophisticated butchery on them.

    NHS Dentistry is almost dead and it’s a scandal. Getting a new NHS dentist is, in some areas, now impossible.
     
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  3. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    My dentist is really good
     
  4. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I was offered "50 used teeth" for £25 by a guy in a pub yesterday. Your neighbours' attitide to dentistry just feeds this black market.
     
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  5. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    Were they human or animal?
     
  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I'm no expert but 6 had fillings so on that basis I'd say human.
     
  7. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I have always thought of dentists as people that wanted to be doctors but were either not good enough or couldnt be bothered with the hard work.
     
  8. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    I’ve always thought of them as the sons and daughters of other dentists.

    That doesn’t explain who were the first dentists, I know. Probably the doctors you mention.
     
  9. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    FWIW all the dental students I've taught or supervised have been the biggest bunch of egotistical w**kers I've ever had the displeasure of meeting - even bigger walking egos than the medics.
     
  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Well, you may say that, but their work is World-renowned.

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    Disclaimer: my dentist is very good.
     
  11. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    My dentist is great, he’s a lovely chap and I trust him. I was at a dentist in Wembley my whole life as that’s where my mum took us, but I lived nowhere near so moved to one closer to where I lived based on recommendation (ironically I now live much closer to Wembley and far away from my current one now though, Sod’s Law)

    My old one was lovely too but getting close to retirement age, in 35 years I’d never had a filling or any treatment, just the 6 monthly check up and hygienist only to be told everything was fine and keep up the good work.

    As soon as I switched to the new one he did a check up, he had all sorts of gadgets and gizmos and lo and behold I needed four fillings. He showed me the evidence which was pretty compelling, I definitely needed them.

    So not carrying out work can be just as bad as carrying it out unnecessarily (which I doubt happens that much in reality) My old dentist was very nice and well meaning, but was probably very out of date with modern techniques and missed them where a better dentist spotted them. If this had carried on, my new dentist said my teeth would’ve just collapsed one day and need to be removed completely.
     
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  12. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I was at a dentist in Chorleywood who came up with something expensive every time I went for a check up. Finally he told me I needed 3 fillings at a cost of a couple of hundred quid. I got a second opinion from the Chartwell Practice in Croxley. They assured me that 2 of the fillings were completely unnecessary and the 3rd would possibly be needed in 2-3 years.

    I've been with them ever since.

    Oh and the cwood guy always wore his mask on his chin and had rank breath.
     
  13. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Not had the best experiences with dentists

    As a kid I had one molar come through with no enamel. They decided to put a crown/cap thing on it. Halfway through the procedure which involved drilling into the tooth they said, "I forgot to give you an anesthetic didn't I" Needless to say it was the most pain I've ever been in. I did however ruin the arms of their chair with my nails and fingers. Didn't go back there.

    This crown/cap thing gave me problems for years, random aches, several times it came off whilst eating, try chewing on your own crown, that's not nice. Duly replaced at increasing cost each time at a now non NHS dentist.
    The last time it came off I had a scheduled appointment a week later so held off an emergency appointment and just rocked up with a nasty looking brown half tooth. Dentist didn't even notice it. this is the sort of chap that would give an anesthetic then get the patient to go back to the waiting room whilst he worked on someone else. It was like a conveyor belt. Yeah I didn't go back there after being a regular for nearly a decade.

    So I'd not been to a dentist for about 20 years. I'm a firm believer in "if it aint broke don't fix it". Until last month that is when I start to get shooting pains up one side of my lower jaw. I've always had sensitive teeth but this was bad and stopping me sleep. So reluctantly started ringing around. to book something in. The one local to me could do an emergency appointment, mid March. Bearing in mind this is the first week of February that wasn't going to fly.

    Luckily my folks dentist was able to squeeze me in same day.
    This chap is different level. You get a full half hour. Took x-rays and actually had them up on screen and looked at them there and then. No coming back 5 days later. Chap was amazed I had no fillings or cavities at my age. Spotted I had one wisdom tooth that never came through. It appears I'd been chewing almost exclusively on the side opposite to my now non-crowed tooth for 20 years and it's just worn the teeth and more crucially gums down which is where the sensitivity has come from. No cavities but I had a hairline crack in one of my molars. He put some temporary stuff on the suspect tooth, suggested I leave well alone on the uncrowned tooth as it wasn't giving my any gyp and suggested I book an appointment with the hygienist as the teeth were looking a bit grimy. 5 days later the pain had pretty much gone. £75. He also recommended some new toothpaste which has improved the sensitivity no end.

    A week or so after that I went for a deep tooth clean again another 30min appointment. This was a deeply unpleasant experience but definitely needed as they look so much better now. It's suggested I go every 6 months £55.

    I'll probably go back for a checkup and another clean in 8 months or so and then once a year after that (possibly avoid the clean). Things have definitely moved on since my previous experiences and I'd say get a recommendation and try a few out if you're not happy with your current one. There's good people out there that only do the work that is absolutely necessary, you just need to find them.
     
  14. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    A dentist with bad breath is surely a huge red flag.
     
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  15. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    Don't talk to me about dentists. One broke my jaw extracting a tooth as a teenager and I ended up in hospital getting it fixed. I used to go every six months and needed a couple of fillings every time. So I didn't go for 10 years and when I went I needed a couple of fillings.
     
  16. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    My dentists work seems to be okay, but boy is he expensive!!!
    I had five tiny fillings despite being in no pain for which I was in the chair for about 15 minutes and my bill was just short of £500!!!
    And recently I had a broken tooth removed £240!!!
    Is that expensive, or is that about the norm?
     
  17. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    You guys should all try brushing your teeth :) !
    I lost faith after it became clear my Kings Langley dentist didn't know what they were doing so i didn't go for about 8 years. Went to a new dentist where we live now for the first time last year after pain. No fillings, just sensitive gums. That Sensodyne repair and protect toothpaste is marvellous stuff.
    I've always hated trips to the dentist after I woke up from an anaesthetic whilst having teeth removed as a kid.
     
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  18. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    I’ve been going to a place in Watford since the summer. It also cost me in the region of five hundred pounds and it continues to be extremely painful.

    But enough about football.
     
  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    And no sign of a crown.
     
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  20. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Nor any bite.
     
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  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    All wisdoms removed ?
     
  22. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    But you get a plaque.
     
  23. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    The one that gets me is where they charge you £37.50 just for having a look. What a rip.

    We got thrown out of two dentists.

    The first one was where Ciff missed her appointment after getting confused about dates - they kicked the whole family off the books as revenge.

    The second one was a two class one - half NHS and half private. There were even separate doors to go in. The NHS waiting room was a bare-walled cell with chairs, while the private side was all sofas and pot plants.

    Eventually they announced they were going fully private, so because we were NHS we got kicked out again.
     
  24. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Chartwell told me I needed root canal treatment on a tooth, (that I hadn't ever had any issues with), as part of a check up after an x-ray. I said I'd wait for some discomfort first as the cost was quite high. Six years later it seems to be fine.
     
  25. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    I wonder what they say at the interview at medical school.

    Training paid for by the taxpayer to line their own pockets. Also found in cahoots with the toothpaste companies promoting the latest dental 'technology'. Eat sensibly, brush your teeth regularly and correctly and you'll be fine.
     
  26. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    My dentist is a very nice chap . I actually look forward to seeing him every 6 months! He's a useless dentist though - leaves my gob in tatters
     
  27. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Guess it depends on the dentist concerned.
     
  28. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Well the patched up hairline crack turned into an absolute chasm today, bang on 17:00.
    Sods law the chap I saw is away until next weds.
     
  29. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Update #2 managed to get an emergency appointment with someone else, a week of antibiotics and it's getting whipped out next tuesday.
     
  30. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    And what about the tooth ?
     
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  31. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    The tooth is out there… ;)
     
  32. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    It is out of there as of last night.
    Was a painless opeeration although the soundtrack to the movie was a bit gruesome. Infact a hygenist appointment is a more unpleasant experience.
    I'm a little sore today with a mild headache, but this is infintely better than the pain I experienced from the cracked tooth and associated infection.
     
  33. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    The names dental surgeries have these days are a bit pretentious. It’s all ‘your’ ‘beautful’, ‘smile’ this or ‘aesthetics’ that.

    There’s a perfectly good naming system for dental practices, that is Name of Road/Street surgery.
     
  34. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Or the third option which is made up science sounding word which could be an Apprentice team name, like mine goes by. It’s called like Elementicon or something.
     
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  35. Mr Heron

    Mr Heron Academy Graduate

    teeth are overrated
     

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