Deeney Interview

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Markoa$, Jun 8, 2023.

  1. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    This is a must watch! Talks about Watford. The club is a mess! It’s absolutely disgraceful how we’re run as a club.

    Give Gino a break hahahaha! Not a chance.
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  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Probably why he won’t come back.

    Be too honest and open saying what he really thinks .
  3. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Bigbadbear! Bigbadbear! Bigbadbear!
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  4. Cassetti's Beard.

    Cassetti's Beard. Academy Graduate

    Like **** I'm watch all of that, someone time stamp the good parts.
  5. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Skipped through it... 1.33 and 2.10 seem to be the interesting bits, but I've probably missed some.
  6. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    So the hierarchy sit and observe in the canteen then go upstairs and observe the training sessions from their offices, and the physio and fitness department don’t change when the manager is removed. Makes you wonder how Edwards got away with not getting the players fit doesn’t it!
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  7. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    Wouldn't take very much of that seriously. There's surely no way Arsenal were interested in signing him in 2020.
  8. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Does seem that Gino is a spectacularly bad judge of character. Keeps on the same ineffective staff, dishes out deals to the likes of Giaretta, pays huge sums to agents and is best buddies with Bayat and his roster of terrible players.
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  9. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    "When you take the manager out, nothing changes. Upper management still oversee it all." That is exactly what we all thought was going on. Thank you Troy - some truth from a legend at last.
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  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Didn’t we all know this already ? We can see that the rest of the hierarchy don’t change other than Garibadi being replaced by Giaretta.
  11. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    But that's not a revelation. That's something Duxbury said within the first year of the takeover. He said it was a strength that a head coach could be removed without the entire infrastructure being destabilised.

    I actually think that made sense at the time, but now the time has come where that mentality has to change. A lot more dependency and value has to be given to the head coach, IMO. This is why we find ourselves in a place where the squad is demotivated and coasting. Too many have become comfortable and will know a head coach, whoever it is, won't be around long. They just have to ride it out.

    What I found more telling in what Deeney said, and is something I think is rife in the squad right now, players don't have that inner fight to succeed. He said there are loads of players who come to training just 5 minutes early and leave on time. They want the trappings of being a footballer, (a footballer bio) but are not interested in the rest. I'd say 90% of our current squad is made up of the type of player and the ones who would go the extra mile are either useless, always injured or well beyond their prime.
  12. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Of course. But it was refreshing to hear an ex-player admit it and how much he felt/feels the club is changing for the worse.
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  13. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    That really took the biscuit, didn't it?
  14. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Sorry I mean we all could see the same people were still at the club, we didn’t need anyone “to admit it” did we ? Or am I missing something?
  15. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    When we got relegated in 19/20 it was very clear to see which players' it really effected. We had just lost our stay with the football elite and Deeney did show some genuine emotion at the final whistle. We were not good enough that season despite somehow still having a chance of staying up on the final day (and of course the Pandemic did not help anyone). As unlikely as it was we were going to beat Arsenal away, I thought we played pretty well that game despite having an awful start. My point is, how many other players' really cared? It's been said a few times before, but one club wonders like Deeney, Le Tissier and Shearer are a very rare breed now. Relegation hurts the club and fans' a lot more than the vast majority of the individual players. Football is about moving on and not being static, and the way money runs the game today it's all part and parcel of it. None of that, however excuses the pitiful showings from what is quite a talented squad of players we have. Be it the manager or not, a lack of personal motivation and pride for the shirt you put on each weekend is very telling in performance. No player in today's game is going to really shed a tear when they move on from one club to the next, that's fine, but at least try to put 110% in on the pitch. So much of what this club used to have has been lost, and not just since we were relegated in 19/20. We had a young team of grafters under Dyche who did very well to finish 11th despite being favourites for the drop. That sort of effort from a Watford squad is nowhere to be seen now.

    For me, that is the saddest part of all of this decline. You and others' may feel different and that's alright.
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  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    I remember there was a video of the team in Pre season and Giaraetta was in a few shots.

    You’d think he was part of the coaching team !
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  17. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Deeney never really knew any traditional stability at Watford throughout his time, given the upheaval that was going on in his first two seasons, pre-Pozzo. It would be interesting to hear from him if he felt there was a change from the early Pozzo years to the later ones before he left, or was success rather than failure on the pitch the only real difference?
  18. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Most people would associate Deeney with Watford because that's the only club where he had any real success but Shearer will surely also be remembered for his time at Blackburn? After all he moved there from Southampton specifically to have the chance to win trophies because they had the financial advantage at the time. Only the crazy Le Tiss is truly a one club man.
  19. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Ah yes, the SAS combo that destroyed the Premiership that season and undid Fergies dream.

    Sutton & Shearer.
  20. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    I don’t think I knew for sure that the manager doesn’t pick the team . Other than that nothing revelatory in there .

    I really like Troy but it sounds like he behaved like a bit of a di*k when negotiating to stay on after the Leicester offer . Getting them to remove the speed bump , really ?
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  21. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Not sure how I feel about his version of the Ivic thing, fair enough if Ivic blanked him, but at the same time he’s a pro footballer, so shooting off for a mates wedding isn’t necessarily ok, at least not if it’s not ok with the manager. Just sounds like he wanted to leave, didn’t like not being picked and didn’t like Ivic, and he then forced the club to back him. In the whole interview he just comes across as someone who can bully his way to whatever he wants.
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  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    He comes across awfully in the bits of the interview I've seen. Like some drunken blowhard showing off to some younger, enamoured lads about how hard he is. It's nauseating.
  23. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    This is the clip that's doing the rounds on Twitter right now, and it's not a good look. Deeney was like this throughout though. Playing to the gallery being the biggest, toughest, hardest man on the planet.
  24. BeersThen

    BeersThen First Year Pro

    That is pitiful.
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  25. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    The entire conversation was like this. It's something you do when you're with your mates in unguarded moments and you can speak like a d1ck with no filter. That's ok, because you're with your peers. But this was a recorded event that was always going to make the public domain. He lets himself down every time. If I was considering Deeney for a coaching role, someone that's going to influence the dressing room from a coaching POV, I'd take one look at that and decide this guy's still got a lot of growing up to do. He's far too conscience at promoting himself as a big hardman.

    On the video he mentions being bigger than Watford (1.28).

    He does cross boundaries though, and I do think this is a problem at Watford. I believe there is a natural segregation where certain groups do not relate to the authority figures at the club. That's been allowed to fester and go unchecked. It was no surprise to me when WTE left the club, our results and performances nosedived. I'd take WTE back any day, over Troy if I'm honest.
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  26. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

  27. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    The more he drinks the worse the interview gets. He said he and a few other players knew they were getting paid far more than they were worth too, weak management letting player power win.
  28. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    I like TD but he comes across as a pleb of the highest order in this interview. I would imagine, and hope, he is embarrassed when he looks back on it as he is very much playing up to the selection of fan boys sat around him.
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  29. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    There still seems little escape from the near daily drip drip of news, events or developments that continue to highlight what an awful shambles of a once proud club we’ve become.

    For those of us older supporters who grew up in the era of GT and Elton, we’ve become unrecognisable now under the stewardship of the Italian and his cronies. It’s all so so sad.

    Where will it all end uff.
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  30. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett First Team

    When I first read this I thought you had written ' footballer biro' and my mind went back to the Southampton game in the League Cup!

    Happy days!

    He really comes over as a sap.
  31. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    “It’s sad, so sad. It’s a sad, sad situation and it’s getting more and more absurd.”
  32. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Give Gino a break. He's still standing.
  33. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    Someone save, someone save, someone save my Orns tonight.
  34. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Would have a bit more credibility if it didn't come from the guy who by his own admission frequently turned up to pre season massively overweight and unfit...
  35. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Troy talks so much rubbish it’s unbelievable

    The same story over 4 different interview gets embellished every time. Give it a couple of years and he’ll be enthralling a bunch of YouTubers with tales about how Pep wanted to sign him but it fell through at the last minute

    Bloke is a gobsh1te who doesn’t know when to use a bit of tact and choose his words - I find him insufferable to listen to at times
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