Covid-19 Virus

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by Hornet4ever, Jan 30, 2020.

  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

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  2. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Cheers @hornmeister

    I was hoping for ‘mad pangolin bat disease’ or ‘Covfefe 19’ but your rather factual approach will have to do.
     
  3. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

  4. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Too late in the afternoon for me to come up with witty stuff like that. I'm normally done in by about 2pm
     
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  5. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

  6. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

  7. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    First death confirmed in the UK now.

    The Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 is one of the deadliest pandemics on record, with the death toll estimated as being anything up to 100 million people.

    It had a mortality rate of 2% versus the coronavirus' currently estimated 3.4%.

    That means COVID-19 has a mortality rate that, per the WHO, is almost twice as deadly as the 1918 epidemic that killed anything up to 100,000,000 people at a time when the world's population was a third of what it is now.

    If the coronavirus isn't contained, the death toll looks like it will be catastrophic.
     
  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Guess they will hope to have a vaccine ready ASAP?
     
  9. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Death rate based on confirmed diagnosed cases. The World Health Authority speculate that there could be 100,000s of unconfirmed mild infections that will not be recorded. New Zealand two confirmed cases. This year Auckland alone has had 300 diagnosed cases of Measles. Measles is a nastier disease, more deadly, more serious potential side effects from infection. But we have a vaccine for Measles, that reduces both the range and severity of infection.
     
  10. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    At least a year out is the current estimate, per drug companies.
     
  11. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    End of the World? Possibly.
     
  12. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It will be if I go shopping later and find everyone has been panic buying all the hummus.
     
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  13. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Picking selective numbers like this doesn't help. How can the death toll be described by the phrase "anything up to 100 million people" be followed by the phrase, "it had a mortality rate of 2%".

    The facts we know about the Spanish Flu is that we don't know how many died, and we certainly don't know how many had it in the first place and we don't know how many would have died if they had benefited from today's improved health care.
     
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  14. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    You should be honoured in some way for this, maybe the new stadium could be called the HappyHornet24 stadium with a plaque commemorating this monumental effort saying something like, "made the ultimate sacrifice when the virus was at it's peak and died aged 89 pissed as a fart, covered in Chocolate and able to quote word for word the entire series of Breaking Bad"
     
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  15. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    It will be the end of the world if I have to start eating that muck
     
  16. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    What I don’t understand is the panic buying of loo roll - the shelves have been stripped of it in my local supermarket this week. If people need that much loo roll for up to 2 weeks self-isolation, then COVID-19 is the least of their worries.
     
  17. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    The companies that manufacture hand sanitising gel must be rubbing their hands together.
     
  18. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Do you happen to be a journalist for a tabloid?

    Coronavirus won't be contained. Nor will it be catastrophic.
     
  19. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Tabloids don't work m8 there is no cure we are all doomed
     
  20. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I was going to post something similar. The fact that in 1919 the medicines weren't available along with a large number of troops demobilising helped spread it.

    Furthermore Spanish Flu was a peculiar illness as it mostly killed young adults compared with other age groups, the fact that life expectancy was lower then may possibly skew that but initial indications show that Covid-19 has mostly killed people with other underlying health issues. Due to these differences it isn't valid to compare Spanish Flu with Covid-19 other than the spread of it was far and wide.
     
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  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    This is a quality thread. The right mix of fact, speculation and humour.
    Just add some cheese references and you could frame it.
     
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  22. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Maybe they had gloves, baseball bats and anti-viral wipes ?
     
  23. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Organization.
     
  24. Help is nigh...

     
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  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes should have industrial quantities of an approved vaccine in about a year then.
     
  26. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    Oh dear , it sounds like this lady has a blocked nose and that’s a symptom isn’t it?

    We’re all doomed..
     
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  27. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Bloody experts, solving complex problems, protecting people...
     
  28. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Phew! That's good news.

    Perhaps you could update the WHO, they still seem to be concerned.
     
  29. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Can you point me in the direction of information where the WHO think it will be catastrophic?

    Of course they will be concerned. It is a virus that is currently affecting every continent on earth bar Antarctica. There is a huge difference between being concerned and expecting 10-100s millions of deaths.
     
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  30. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    If she survives long enough in her bunker....
     
  31. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Do a bad back and a dodgy knee could as an"underlying health problem" ? I doubt I could out-run it.
     
  32. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    #RIP
     
  33. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Rookerydad, Nnnn, Cleyhorn....good to see you again. Shuffle along a bit, it's time to join you on the great WFCForums subs bench in the sky....
     
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  34. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    It's maths.

    One current model estimates 40% to 70% of the world's population will be exposed. The WHO currently estimates a 3.4% mortality rate.

    I invite you to do that calculation yourself.

    Obviously if what is currently thought to be true is wrong, then the equation shifts. I'm sure a lot of the info *is* imperfect; we're very much in a discovery phase at the moment. That could be either a good or a bad thing, though; it could be that everything is underestimated.

    Let us assume the model for infection, for example, is very off base and only 10% of the world's population end up contracting it. That's about 750,000,000 people or so.

    3.4% of that is still a very large number (25,000,000). 2% of that is still a very large number (15,000,000). And that's assuming the world infection rate is a quarter of that particular model's minimum. Those numbers fit my personal definition of "catastrophic". You are entitled to disagree, of course.

    We're left in the unenviable position of hoping what's currently thought could be true is very, very wrong.
     
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  35. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    So why hasn’t the WHO labelled it a pandemic, then?
     

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