Christian Kabasele

Discussion in 'Former Players Archive' started by hornmeister, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    In the Championship he's decent, the PL is a different matter though. Often caught the wrong side of his man, finds himself under the flight of the ball, always has a stupid tackle in him and is a liability on the ball.

    Lovely bloke and probably passable squad filler to play a few games throughout the season. But he shouldn't be anything like a regular starter for us.
     
  2. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Looks like we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one, as I think he should be our 1st choice CB alongside Sierralta, unless of course we bring in someone better from outside over the Summer.
     
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  3. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    Agree, from our current squad they look the best pair. But someone better would be good.
     
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  4. LouOrns

    LouOrns First Year Pro

    Troost is a fair bit better than Kabasele IMO. WTE issue is his passing, which Xisco keeps insisting we use him for - apart from that he’s been a solid signing. Kabasele is just quick, dodgy passer of the ball, over-commits, gives away pens and his positional play is erm odd at times. I think WTE has helped Sierralta look even better than he actually is, because we still don’t actually know his level
     
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  5. pleaseenterthenamebywh

    pleaseenterthenamebywh Academy Graduate

    Are we all in agreement that we need to get rid of this total waste of space next season? I can't think of a Premier League CB with fewer defensive instincts that Kabasele.
     
  6. Abdi

    Abdi Academy Graduate

    But his funny on twitter
     
  7. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Having him in the squad would be fine if he wasn't surrounded by other players who look like they won't be competent defenders in the PL - WTE, Cathcart and Wilmot.

    Ideally we would sell Kabasele, loan out Wilmot (or sell and sign a better young CB to replace him) and then sign someone to start for us alongside Sierralta.
     
  8. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    He has all the tools to be brilliant but between the ears is what seems to let him down. I always feel like he’s going to switch off and cost us a goal or even go full Kaba and get himself sent off while conceding a penalty.
     
  9. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Kabasele currently is the best CB we have to play alongside Sierralta at present. I would not say no to us bringing in someone better, but I do not think that will happen, and I also think he will do a better job than many of you lot on here give him credit for.
     
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  10. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    He's awful. Such a nice bloke though.
     
  11. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I took your advice on the other thread, but I disagree with you on this, so we shall have to agree to differ on this subject :cool:
     
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  12. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    Would like to see him replaces by someone of genuine Prem pedigree. Seriously, how hard can it be? Good strikers are expensive, CBs not so much.
     
  13. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Agreed. A good dependable prem league CD, like that guy West Ham picked up in the winter window.
     
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  14. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Need to sign a decent CB really, of PL standard.
     
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  15. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    No problem at all, I respect your opinion.
     
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  16. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Ajer is getting offered around plenty of clubs.
     
  17. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Inc. ourselves?
     
  18. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Things are so desperate that I'm hoping he plays against Chelsea.
     
  19. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    We all hit rock bottom at some point mate. Just know there’s always a way back.
     
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  20. Vic

    Vic First Year Pro

    Better player than Troost for sure.
     
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  21. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Has a higher peak than WTE for sure, but is more than capable of the odd brainfart, but then again, if WTE is producing brainfart after brainfart, well, what's the harm in bringing in Kabasele?
     
  22. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    He’s s*** and all, don’t let an extended absence fool you.
     
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  23. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    He is not the answer but I do think Kabasele is better than Troost-Ekong.
     
  24. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Local man is frequently injured.

    Local man periodically concedes needless penalties.
     
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  25. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    But he does require the oppo attackers to DO something to create a chance, unlike certain others of our CBs.
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Does he? The guy is full of mistakes, not just conceding penalties.
     
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  27. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Kabs is much, much better player. There's no comparison. He can pass a bloody football for a start.
     
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    He has good games but also a few lapses in concentration.
     
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  29. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Kabs is not a great centre back by any stretch of the definition, and he's certainly not starting Premier League level, but even taking into account his past foibles and brainfarts, I believe that it's pretty unavoidable at this point to draw the conclusion that he's better at this level than WTE - I would struggle to name a worse, less capable centre back I have seen in the Premier League than him. I'd rather have Mariappa back (at the level he was when he played in the Prem with us, not now as a 50 year old, obviously) to start over him, and I say that entirely earnestly.

    That's not said with any particular intent to praise Kabs, or suggest that he's the answer to any kind of question other than 'who should start our next games until Sierralta becomes available again given the hideous defensive context of this club'.

    It's all just levels of unacceptably bad - which degree below 'competent' are they, and WTE has proven himself, with the considerable amount of rope he's been afforded, to be the worst centre back we possess at this level. He is a further echelon below competent than Kabasele is, according to the evidence we now have, so Kabs must start ahead of him. It's that black and white, really.
     
  30. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Kabbs will generally make one catastrophic error per game, the difference is it’s generally through something like giving away a needless penalty, whereas with WTE it’s normally through a ridiculous misplaced pass, or Sunday’s shambles of a decision to duck under the ball.

    The question really is how will you prefer your error served up? I can kind of get the logic that giving a penalty away is slightly more palatable than something as brain dead as just not heading a ball away, so if it makes it slightly more palatable to get your errors through slightly less comical circumstances then Kabbs is indeed your man.
     
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  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Don't forget that he started as a striker so he's still learning about being a centre back. When he's comfortable in that position, he'll be excellent.
     
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  32. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    One thing I would say in 'praise' is that Kabs generally owes the footballing gods one catastrophic error per game, and occasionally he even manages to duck that, whereas at this point we have to say that WTE is in a far worse debt, to the tune of several each and every match.
     
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  33. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    And he's got Jesse Lingard syndrome, so he's still technically a young promising player
     
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  34. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    I don’t recall kabbs making a mistake every match . That’s just made up .

    He certainly has mistakes in him and he will ha e a brain fart every now and again , but I also remember him having a fairly consistent patch during 2019 and Some strong performances, often against the better sides . Watching Troost Ekomg I think he is far superior in the premier league .
     
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  35. Stuart_Slater

    Stuart_Slater Academy Graduate

    I would rather Kabs every day over WTE.

    Kabs as a sweeper in a back 3 could work.
     

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