Read All About It: The Venal Uk Media

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Moose, Nov 18, 2021.

  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    This is the big attack line the Tories are resting their whole election campaign on next year. They’re going to rely on the huge ignorance of the a British public to try and make out a barrister who will have taken jobs under the ‘cab rank’ rule, which is a professional obligation, supported the causes of those he represented. I’ve read that Labour are fully expecting this, so I hope they have a good response planned and fight fire with fire.
     
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  2. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Seems a daft approach. Many Tory MPs previously practiced law and will have the same "exposure" (which, as you've already highlighted, is simply professional obligation).

    It's astounding how ignorant people are about the basics of how our society operates. UK schools really need to study basic elements of civics/separation of powers/legal system etc. People growing up not understanding these things benefits absolutely no one.
     
  3. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    And yet those same people will also tell you very loudly just how much sovereignty matters to them.

    It does actually benefit plenty of people… it benefits Michelle Mone that there are people who don’t understand how anything works so that their lame excuses start to muddy the waters.
     
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  4. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    So cynical, if this was a footie tackle it would be waist high.

    The usually transphobic Mail splashes this dreadful murder, but, true crime fans, you must listen to its podcast.

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  5. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Counter-attack in the media about Starmer's time at the CPS:

    Keir Starmer was not told about dropping of Jimmy Savile case, say sources
    Labour leader was unaware a prosecutor had closed case in 2009 despite being head of CPS, it has emerged
     
  6. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player


    No, those top cheeses never do anything wrong. When there's a **** up, they knew nothing about it. They weren't there. Completely innocent.

    I bet it was that lowly bloke who was to blame. The young one who'd just joined a few months ago. That'll be it. Everyone always thought he was a bit odd. Now look what he did! The *******!
     
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  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  8. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

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  9. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Voting Labour? So you LIKE kid murderers, do you? You approve of them, do you? Eh? EH?!

    Discusting!
     
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  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    A hotter take might have been to reveal that man considered by some to have no principles is revealed to have once had some. What ever happened to Keir Starmer?
     
  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Ironically, he was executed by his 'no drama with Starmer' alter-ego.
     
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  12. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    The Government should launch an inquiry into lawyering in general. Many of their clients are complete wrong uns and they think that’s ok.

    Some are even Pro-Bono and he’s an irritating gobshyte.
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  13. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    I just examined my personal morals and ethics and discovered that you are right, much to my surprise.

    We need more children buried alive! Just say yes to underage subterranean incarceration!
     
  14. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    I always thought it was Pro-Bonio which didn't make much sense, so thanks for clearing that one up for me.
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  15. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    I can only imagine your confusion.

    Bonio's suck.
     
  16. Buy one, get two free.

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  17. YouGov poll commissioned by Fatty Frost published in Telegraph:
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    As Alex Andreou put it on X:
    "Would you vote for Sunak, Starmer or a magical Wizard"?
     
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  18. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Would you like your unicorn, appears to be the question.
     
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  19. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    No chance. The EU have culled them all.
     
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    This has prompted "50 and Sunak" to be number one trend on twitter. When you investigate it, it is "I'm over 50 and Sunak can **** right off".
     
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  21. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    They broke the social contract and the over-50s are just starting to cotton on that this is going to have a significant impact on them and their children.

    Problem: Young people can't get on the housing ladder.
    Solution: Not to worry, they'll inherit their parents' house.
    Problem: Except the parents will potentially have to spend tens, if not hundreds, of thousands on care costs.

    Problem: There's not enough housing
    Solution: Fill in every available bit of land, including green belt, with pokey, low-grade (but very expensive) housing
    Not popular with people who've spent 25 years paying their mortgage only to find the places they've built a life are going to be changed beyond recognition

    In their rush to plunder the public purse, the Tories have abandoned their core voters. Some Tory voters have been slow to cotton on but the recognition in recent months has been rapid. You hear it everywhere out here in blue-rosette-on-a-flowerpot-of-dung land.
     
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  22. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    The BBC is off and running with its campaign of false equivalence, planting the seed that they are 'as bad as each other'.

    BBC Breakfast this morning had an image of Starmer and Sunak together. "Look, see, they're all the same."

    The first thing mentioned was Starmer's 'U-turn' on the green pledge. Second thing mentioned was Sunak making a trans joke while the mother of a murdered transgender child was sitting in the public gallery at PMQs. "Look, see, these two things are as bad as each other."

    The capacity to frame things in a certain way never ceases to amaze. The right-wingers don't want net zero – or indeed any green policies. The Tories always say "yes, but how are Labour going to pay for it.' Starmer makes a decision and he's labelled indecisive.

    "Look, see, they're as bad as each other... Better the devil you know, eh?"
     
  23. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Well, if the BBC said one was better than the other, wouldn't that be showing political preference?
     
  24. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Using a grieving mother to score points at PMQs was a new low for Starmer and British politics in general.
     
  25. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    There's no need to say one is better than the other. That's not what either story is about. The editorial framing of two totally unconnected stories together in the same breath is in itself a form of political bias.

    The fact you can't see the joins just shows how effective it is as a technique.
     
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  26. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Good one! That's right. You've identified the real baddie using the magnifying glass you got on the front of your CBBC children's comic!
     
  27. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I can see the join, thanks. But think of the alternative. Seems to me that these are both essentially negative news items. If Labour dropping its green policy goes first, that will be seen as the BBC signalling that what Labour says is more important and problematic than what Sunak said. And vice versa. Either way the BBC gets criticised for editorial bias.

    It actually strikes me as quite smart work to link the two in this way, in an effort to forestall that criticism. And the fact that you read it as 'they are as bad as each other' shows that it has worked.

    The Labour announcement was the lead item on BBC radio, incidentally.
     
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  28. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Comedy gold
     
  29. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    If I were looking at this through a purely political lense, Labour missed a trick by not announcing this policy change a couple days ago when it would have been buried by the news about the King's cancer.

    The added bonus would have been that Sunak's disastrous day yesterday would have been more prominent in the news reporting today.
     
  30. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    If that was his plan then it was a very cunning one.

    Did he invite Esther Ghey into the commons? Did he raise transgender issue to lure Sunak into commenting on it?

    Or did he, as a courtesy, acknowledge that Brianna's mother was in public gallery and welcome her. And did Sunak, having nothing to do with the question being asked, have a quite unnecessary pop at the transgender community, infront of a grieving mother of a murdered transgender child?

    From the PMQs I watched it appeared to be the latter but perhaps you know differently?
     
  31. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Normally I'd agree but she's been mixing it with politicians and addressing political issues all week, and was attending Parliament that day, so I think it was legitimate. Ultimately Sunak wants to keep picking on this teeny tiny minority of trans people, who the vast majority of Brits are happy to do their own thing, just to stoke a culture war. It's right to point out to him real people are at the centre of this.
     
  32. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Meanwhile BBC News front page this lunchtime is Sunak's lame attempt to flip this back on Starmer alongside a live text headed by Labour reversing a proposed (not even actual) policy:

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    Not even a fig leaf of 'all as bad as one another' there!
     
  33. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    The "policy change" has been an open goal for the Tories though.

    Leading Labour figures have been contradicting each other over this for days, if not weeks.

    And, from what I gather, the £28bn seemed to have been an arbitrary figure anyway, with hardly any of it allocated to specific projects.

    I think Labour's timidity may cost them vote if this anything to go by.

    They should have, imho, said that this amount was never fixed in stone. That any spending would be within the government's fiscal rules. But their policy would continue to be to create a world leading renewable energy industry, create jobs and provide energy security for the UK.

    The Labour party have made a complete and unnecessary mess of this imho.
     
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  34. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    What was worse Rishi’s buttock clenchingly clumsy attempt at a joke (which seemed to me to be at Sir Keir’s expense rather than trans people, anyway) or Sir Keir’s response – dripping with the fake sincerity that he likes to deploy at every opportunity – which, to my mind, was a pretty distasteful exploitation of Mrs Ghey. They really are all as dreadful as each other!
     

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