[RUMOUR] Alfredo Morelos

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Aylesburyorn, Jul 29, 2023.

  1. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2011
    Messages:
    11,397
    Likes Received:
    2,949
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    'emel 'empstead m8
    On the pitch, there is a lot to like. Prolific goalscorer for a lot of his career, accustomed to physical leagues, can play a lone striker to good effect and better than what we currently have. His style of play isn't massively build up focussed but getting in goal scoring positions and tucking them away (Per @reids radar) which is the exact type of striker VI is asking for.

    However, there is a lot of baggage that could bite us hard. He's got a reputation now to have a questionable attitude when things don't go his way off the pitch and would certainly only see us as a stepping stone to greater things, and more pertinantly from that, how he could react if we recieve offers below our valuation. He's also had a Season where he was not very fit and subsequently performances dropped like a stone because he felt slighted by Rangers. His work rate is also poor, a mismatch for what VI asks for.

    We've done a lot of work this Summer Window removing deadwood and apathetic players. We seem to have a group of players who want to be here and will buy into VI's system. It's a big risk potentially destabilising it. However, it would go with the club's modus operandi for taking in players who's value has dropped due to form, injury or whatever else and some work out prolificly (ie: Dennis, who also came in with an attitude problem but performances were extremely profitable for both parties) whilst others don't. If VI thinks he can get him on side, I'm not against this but it requires buy in from the whole hierachy on this transfer for it to not end it tears.
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2023
    Teide1 and Malteser2 like this.
  2. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    18,759
    Likes Received:
    8,021
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Location, Location
    Bad apple
     
  3. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    43,352
    Likes Received:
    13,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    In the thick of it
    But what about the negatives?
     
  4. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2011
    Messages:
    3,256
    Likes Received:
    2,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I’m not against this as he knows how to score, but I am getting confused about the type of number 9 we are going to use. He’s no big target man, and nor is Healey. And Bayo is tall but not a hold up player.
     
  5. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    5,505
    Likes Received:
    4,329
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    London
    Like Sarr but fatter and more cross
     
    Leighton Buzzer and wfc4ever like this.
  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,854
    Likes Received:
    20,551
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    We have a proven history of taking on fat past-it has-beens, and turning them back into highly motivated lean mean hungry stars. I don’t see an issue.
     
  7. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    5,505
    Likes Received:
    4,329
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    London
    And that's just our managers ;)
     
    Happy bunny likes this.
  8. Amersham CC

    Amersham CC Academy Graduate

    Joined:
    May 30, 2011
    Messages:
    268
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    28
    He’s 27 should be at his peak age wouldn’t be classed in the has been bracket.
     
  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,854
    Likes Received:
    20,551
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    He’s in the has-been category because he’s dipped below the peak he reached a couple of years ago, the season before he left Rangers when he really looked a hot prospect. He dipped in his final season at Rangers as has been noted above, and flopped completely at C Palace where he’s fattened up. I’m not sure we are the best equipped to turn around the good ship Morales.
     
  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,956
    Likes Received:
    6,914
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
    That is almost too old for some!

    Particularly if he got a long term contract .
     
  11. Vic

    Vic First Year Pro

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2014
    Messages:
    719
    Likes Received:
    893
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Deeney, Dennis
    Moralee, Morelos
    Let’s call the whole thing off
     
  12. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2015
    Messages:
    7,242
    Likes Received:
    5,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Considering he was fat and lazy for Rangers last season and didn’t want to be there, he still had a 16 goal contribution (11 goals 5 assists) in 1600 mins in the league. So a goal involvement every 100mins. Obviously the Scottish league is the equivalent of lower championship/league 1 standard, but if we can get this guy up and running, no reason he can’t contribute at least 10 goals this season amidst his suspensions.
     
  13. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2011
    Messages:
    7,121
    Likes Received:
    339
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Norway
    Plus side he is a crazy bastardm, negative he is a crazy ******* , world needs more crazy bastards ,Im in!
     
  14. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2009
    Messages:
    3,918
    Likes Received:
    2,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Doubt if it will happen. Saudis will be offering about 50 times more. If he did sign he’d probably be great for about 6 games and then have a fight with someone
     
  15. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    33,127
    Likes Received:
    20,674
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Toronto, Barcelona, Watford
    Probably Porteous.
     
    Hogg-DEENEY!!! likes this.
  16. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2011
    Messages:
    6,804
    Likes Received:
    5,136
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I hope we steer clear of this one. He is disruptive and is liable to just not bother when it suits him, like he did for Rangers last year.

    What I want to see from Watford this year is a squad of players that give it everything on the pitch and have a close team spirit. In some ways, as the scum have shown, that is more important than individual abilities.

    Morelos has shown he is not that sort of player/person.
     
  17. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    33,127
    Likes Received:
    20,674
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Toronto, Barcelona, Watford
    Not sure what to think about this. He’s a loose cannon with a big ego. When we’re aiming for a tight knit group of workhorses without ego, he doesn’t seem to be the right fit for us. Very temperamental as seen by his dreadful disciplinary record.

    But he does have some quality. Is he worth the baggage that comes with him? Not so sure. For me I wouldn’t be disappointed if this link comes to nothing.
     
  18. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2020
    Messages:
    363
    Likes Received:
    274
    Trophy Points:
    63
    He’s the type who could become a cult hero, too.
     
  19. Cassetti's Beard.

    Cassetti's Beard. Academy Graduate

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2023
    Messages:
    475
    Likes Received:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    63
    No thanks, I want to watch Bayo up front by himself all season.
     
  20. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Joined:
    May 18, 2017
    Messages:
    5,236
    Likes Received:
    6,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kirkjubæjarklaustur
    No point having quality if you're a fat ****
     
  21. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    5,505
    Likes Received:
    4,329
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    London
    The new Xavier Gravelaine perhaps?

    He has aged a little
     

    Attached Files:

  22. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    18,629
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Berkshire.
    I'm having that on my gravestone!
     
    Heidar likes this.
  23. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    43,352
    Likes Received:
    13,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    In the thick of it
    I’d caveat that slightly. My favoured squad would be a group of players who give absolutely everything, with at least one talented nutcase.
     
    Supertommymooney likes this.
  24. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2011
    Messages:
    7,121
    Likes Received:
    339
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Norway
    We dont agree often , but on this matter I am in complete accord!
     
    Moose likes this.
  25. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    20,440
    Likes Received:
    9,472
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kent (Originally Watford)
    Get him in. We're a painfully ******* boring football club/team. At least he'll bring some form of excitement.
     
    Chewitt likes this.
  26. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Messages:
    91,507
    Likes Received:
    23,440
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    thatcher
    Location:
    Right in the mixer
    At least after Deeney, Rose and Tufan our ownership had the good sense to start charging for food at the training ground.
     
    ProfessorAbdi, Vic and sydney_horn like this.
  27. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    12,441
    Likes Received:
    7,007
    Trophy Points:
    113
  28. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,854
    Likes Received:
    20,551
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
  29. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2012
    Messages:
    14,939
    Likes Received:
    4,232
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sounds like Raj in playing attributes but not in temperamemt. Let's pass.
     
    PowerJugs likes this.
  30. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Messages:
    17,101
    Likes Received:
    2,970
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Vet
    Location:
    Deepest Darkest Devon
    Hilarious that Santos got relegated
     
    reids likes this.
  31. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2009
    Messages:
    3,918
    Likes Received:
    2,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The fact that Teamtalk are reporting this makes me think this is serious
     
    The undeniable truth likes this.
  32. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2009
    Messages:
    9,823
    Likes Received:
    4,158
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If his attitude is questionable then there is no way VI will want him
     
    Happy bunny likes this.
  33. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,854
    Likes Received:
    20,551
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    Unfortunately Edwards and Manga have already committed us.
     
  34. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    14,783
    Likes Received:
    5,236
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    BMS
    Location:
    The 'Wood
    Local man dog is happy.

    [​IMG]
     
    Arakel, PowerJugs and K9 Hornet like this.
  35. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,854
    Likes Received:
    20,551
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    Does that mean he won’t be bringing any presents this Xmas ?
     

Share This Page