Advances In Ai Using Gpt-4 / Chatgpt - Fantastic And Amazing Or Terrifying, Or Both ?

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  1. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    The advances in this area of tecchnology are pretty astonishing.
    How will you ever know if you're talking to a real customer services or sales person ever again - even if you can see them speaking ?
    How about creating a comprehensive and credible Business Proposal in 30 mins flat using Bing powered by GPT-4 (the successor to ChatGPT, the A.I. chatbot from OpenAI) without using a sales/business development team ? Start a media campaign on facebook and twitter using only AI ?
    Are any of Moog and his logins real ?
    https://oneusefulthing.substack.com/p/a-quick-and-sobering-guide-to-cloning
    https://fortune.com/2023/03/26/whar...-minutes-business-project-superhuman-results/
     
  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The potential advances in AI using GPT-4 are both fantastic and amazing, as well as potentially terrifying.

    On the one hand, GPT-4 has the potential to significantly improve natural language processing, enabling more advanced and nuanced conversations between humans and machines. This could revolutionize a wide range of industries, from customer service to education to healthcare.

    On the other hand, as AI becomes more advanced, there is a risk that it could be used to automate jobs, creating economic disruption and inequality. There is also the possibility that AI could be used to create more sophisticated and dangerous weapons, or to manipulate public opinion on a large scale.

    Ultimately, the impact of GPT-4 and other advanced AI technologies will depend on how they are developed and used. It is important that we consider both the benefits and the potential risks, and work to ensure that AI is developed in a responsible and ethical way.
     
  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    The risk at present is that these advances are taking place in a competitive marketplace with little thought about the implications and risks of each step/leap that is taken. The risks are very real but almost being disregarded as companies/countries vie for the lead in this space. **** knows what the Russians & Chinese can/will do with this technology.
     
  4. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Well my AI that I unleashed on the world moog has finally reached, what I've termed, 'coprosentience'; it knows it's posting shyte.
     
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  5. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I've only just got the hang of texting
     
  6. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Just contemplate for a moment or two how bizarre it is that a technological development that can take the weight off our shoulders, do away with vast amounts of human labour and make things easier for everyone is seen as a BAD thing.

    There's a RISK it might do away with jobs? Good! It would be Luddite not to welcome it.

    We'll just have to think of some other way of distributing the neccesities of living, other than as a reward for 40 hours of hard slog and sweat.

    Old, decrepit, strife-torn 20th century capitalism is increasingly unsuited to human progression and development in these technological times.
     
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  7. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Oh no! Not them! The axis of evil doers.

    Thank goodness we can rely on the Yanks and our own ethical boys here in blighty, never to abuse such technology.

    And of course all of the above will. And without remorse. Every single new technology that shows up, the first thought seems to be amongst the world's wunnerful leadership:- "now how can we use this to kill people?"
     
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  8. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    Perhaps companies and organisations using new technology should have to trade working hours per week for the introduction. Instead of cutting some peoples' jobs completely they should give everyone less working hours with no reduction in total pay. That way all sides benefit
     
  9. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Thanks for that ChatGPT.
     
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  10. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Fewer.
     
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  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes though no company in the world will want to spend money retaining staff they don't need.
     
  12. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Hahaha outstanding whoosh here!
     
  13. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    It is sad that so many people jumped on the anti-AI bandwagon so quickly without really understanding what's going on. Some artists, seeing a risk to their ability to make money, started making accusations about AI art being "stolen art", as if it's just iterating on an existing piece of work. That's an extremely disingenuous framing of what's going on and it's driven by a (as you said) selfish Luddite mentality.

    The emergence of AI is the first step towards a better society for all. It is only a matter of time before AI and robotics make the vast majority of jobs a thing of the past. UBI financed by robot taxes will be a thing, and humanity will be freed to pursue what makes us happy, rather than slaving away at jobs for most of our existences through necessity (including slaving away at jobs, if that's your thing).
     
  14. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

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  15. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    As long as we can get one of our world famous fans' to release it into the chart them it's a yes from me. Elton, Halliwell, Kunis, Aniston, Sommers, Saunders, Barnes even. I notice the distinct lack of the words Pozzo or Gino. Good.
     
  16. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Prefer “Yellow” by yawnmongers.
     
  17. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Schoolkids will love this. Creates issues for the educationalists. We've already got children using Pass It Notes widely for English Literature. Just imagine the sources this AI learning algorithims can draw on. Although how accurate,comprehending and relevant the information may be at the moment is still variable in it's answers which would be a dead giveaway.
     
  18. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Some of my uni students are already using it to write essays. Easy to spot at the moment (the sources are fake), but for how much longer?
     
  19. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Yes, AI has a way to go to get to even that dismal level.
     
  20. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Everything submitted to us by students had to go through "TurnItIn". For a laugh all the doctors in the group put their doctorates through it to get a "Percentage Plagiariszed" figure. Mine was one of the lowest at 59% (lowest was 52%). The three Oxbridgers were all around 65%. To our everlasting joy the head of department's was 79%.
     
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  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Companies will be able to make the same revenues by employing far fewer employees so higher profits and better returns for shareholders. Hopefully those “freed up” employees will enjoy their free time pursuing what makes them happy and find another way to earn an income.
     
  22. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    As I started in m post, UBI is the inevitable endpoint. It will have to happen or there will be a violent revolt, and then it'll happen anyway.
     
  23. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Agreed. And do you think it will be higher or lower than a regular salary ? Living wage plus a bit ? How high do you think taxes will need to get to to fund this ?
     
  24. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    The taxes will be on the companies and their drastically increased profits. if a company like Amazon went fully automated by AI, what would be the benefit and how would they survive if nobody had a job to buy their products?
     
  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes and companies like Amazon will work even harder to avoid taxes, playing countries off against eachother even more than they do today. Anyone thinking the jobs lost will be replaced with an equivalent UBI for the same value is kidding themselves.
     
  26. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    There's no reason it won't be more than enough to get by on without struggling, because the cost of producing everything will plummet. The number one cost to any business is employee wages plus any ancillary benefits offered. Eliminating that will lead to an enormous shift in profits.
     
  27. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Absolutely but I don’t believe for a second that companies will pay out in taxes 100% of the savings they make.
     
  28. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Certainly not voluntarily, no. Tax programs will need to be significantly revamped.
     
  29. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    "We want to make sure that AI is complementing the way we work in the UK, not disrupting it - making our jobs better, rather than taking them away," Technology Secretary Michelle Donelan told the Sun.

    How daft is that?

    That's like getting a washing machine and saying it'll only complement tbe way I do my laundry. I shall still scrub the clothes in a bucket and pass them through the mangle.

    It just doesn't make sense. Work for the sake of work. Why?
     
  30. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Love this comparison. Excellently put!
     
  31. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know what the fuss is about, I tried using it and it started singing "Daisy" at me.
     
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  32. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes complete nonsense. “Making our jobs better” by removing those very jobs.
     
  33. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Take a sales and marketing dept. Fewer jobs will be required with Sales and Marketing Directors able to review and tweak proposals and marketing campaign designed by AI rather than teams of staff, merely retaining a skeleton staff in those areas. The staff laid off won’t be able to sit at home earning their £40k or so due to a higher tax regime. Unemployment will rise and taxes will need to rise to pay unemployment credit to a larger pool of people, that’s all. This simply won’t become a world where employees can do what they want for the same income while AI does their work for them.
     
  34. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    There are 3 possible scenarios for the future:

    1. The richies declare themselves the "owners" of these machines and will rent them out to us at commercial prices - that is going to require some sort of UBI as has been pointed out. Otherwise we can't pay them.

    2. The richies declare themselves the "owners" and fark off somewhere on their own to enjoy themselves. We get left outside the walls to get on with it as best we can. This is the scenario in several recent films.

    3. We have common ownership of the machines and they're used to benefit humankind as a whole and advance us into the future.

    I can't understand how anyone could be in favour of options 1 or 2.
     
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