Norwich City 1-3 Watford Fc - 18/09/2021

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by BeersThen, Sep 12, 2021.

  1. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Rose has got away with two challenges there...
     
  2. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Get in Sarr! A lot of space afforded to us, but still, good work from Ngakia and King in the build-up too!
     
  3. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    The rumour I heard about Sierralta is that he is a Taurus and Russell Grant predicted an unfavourable outcome for him today, so he is being shielded from dark forces.
     
  4. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Ooh, that did look offside on first viewing, but we might be lucky about the new offside rules!
     
  5. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Which song? And what’s the chant? Used to like Belinda back in the day.
     
  6. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Nope. Rumour has it they've taken him to Dover. I'm sure Farage will post a video celebrating this in the next couple of days
     
  7. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Norwich are absolutely abysmal.
     
  8. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Comfortable win. A class above Norwich. Sarr toying with them at the end.

    Kucka looked a little out of puff but showed his class. Cleverly played well at the top of midfield. Dennis a constant menace. Rose some excellent passes out of defence. Pleasing to see King get an assist and showed well. Nice runs, showed for the ball. showed strength and composure and the goals will come.

    Sissoko an absolute monster in midfield. Still need to find a little toughness in defence losing Kiko and Cathcart despite a couple of interceptions is not what we require against sterner tests. Need to build on this and beat Newcastle and go forward from that after disappointing efforts against Brighton and Wolves. Need to show the same level of confidence and energy as we showed today.

    Norwich are in a deep hole if this is where they are at. Comfortably second best.
     
  9. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Great win - just opening a bottle of red
     
  10. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

  11. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Ooh heaven is a place called Carrow Road. Three points again. :D

     
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  12. jackwfc

    jackwfc Academy Graduate

    Great to see us playing Norwich off the park towards the end today, really encouraging despite Norwich being bottom.
     
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  13. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Really pleased with that result. Counter attacking sounded good and Sarr has used his bit of extra class to help us win.

    Norwich away sounds easy - but they finished one place above us last season. Every win in this league is good. Fair play to Xisco and the team.
     
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  14. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Wonderful to get three points, as it always is, but Norwich were absolutely abysmal - they're just not even capable of competing at this level, and we are cosmically incapable of losing to them.

    Still looking forward to QSF round three in about November, followed by a broader 19/20 round two, based on all we saw.

    Huge plus point was Rose - some of the balls he played, and the anticipatory step-out to block and mug the ball as it came in to Brandon Williams in our box on 91 minutes was a clear sign of the fundamental class he possesses.
     
  15. Norwich looked doomed

    Much better in the 2nd half

    Something I've never noticed about Rose is his passing is brilliant, he finds passing angles the likes of WTE and Craigcart and others could only dream of
     
  16. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    Pissed it really. We barely got out of 2nd gear and comfortably beat them.

    When Sarr is on form we rarely lose. Just needs to find that consistency so he's more involved in games
     
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  17. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Absolutely. It's definitely going to be his last year with us anyway. He may as well push his price tag up.
     
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  18. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    They will threaten Derby's points total
     
  19. wimbornet

    wimbornet Reservist

    Great win!!

    random but CB's... how did Gary Cahill end up at Muff?? Surely he'd have walked into ours, or a lot of other lower prem defences.
     
  20. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Wages. They'll be ****ed if they don't get promoted this season.

    Good to see Chalobah having a positive impact for Slither.
     
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  21. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    GNW confesses undying love for his team, WFC. That rounded the commentary off perfectly.
     
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  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Phew. We didn't find out much from that which we didn't already know from Wolves - we'll probably still get relegated, but at least we'll have an outside chance of survival. We'll really need to find a consistent first choice XI and keep them fit though for it to happen. Norwich don't have a hope this season.

    A few thoughts on performances:
    Foster could have closed Pukki down more for the goal. Perhaps he was still hesitant after giving away so many pens from needlessly rushing out last time he was in the Prem?

    Rose somehow managed to look even less fit than last week. Was alright still though. Committed a few too many needless fouls perhaps.
    Cathcart is not a PL defender anymore, but we knew that already. Was asleep half the match. Can't start vs Newcastle.
    T-E was solid.
    Kiko showed why he's such a huge miss when not fit. He's our best RB, but as I pointed out even before the season started he can't be relied on to play every game.

    Kucka is cack. Not sure how he's lasted 90mins vs Wolves and today. Tufan must surely be good enough to replace him soon?
    Cleverley was very good. Typical energetic pressing display from him.
    Sissoko fine.

    Sarr was wasteful in the first half, but showed his quality eventually.
    King was totally anonymous for most the match. Finally did a few decent things later on vs some terrible defending, but I'm still not convinced.
    Dennis does look a find. Great goal. Not sure why he was subbed.

    Final thing - does anyone on here still want us to sign Kabak?! I've been warning against him for years despite many on here buying in to the unwarranted hype.
     
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  23. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    So we’re comfortably better than 21st place in England, it’s just a question of where we sit above that.

    I haven’t really got much to say about us, I’m just totally in awe of how shockingly bad Norwich are. Obviously I never watch their games, but all I hear after their latest defeat is they played well, even against good teams, yet every time we play them they’re the very definition of all fart and no sh!t. They’re just so flimsy and lovely to play against.
     
  24. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    What a stressfull ******* game that was.

    A few immediate thoughts:

    Foster is showing why he is clearly 2nd choice with that goal. He doesn't position himself for a more aggresive or more cautious approach, leaving himself unable to pressure Pukki earlier with a more aggresive rush or set his body in anticipation with a more cautious position nearer to his goal. He then commits very early, dropping to his knees and therefore unable to react to the shot as he is literally on his ******* knees. This enables Pukki to look up and put a fairly tame sidefoot past him into the goal as Foster made up his mind for him. Really poor technique with bad footwork. It's a not goalkeeper howler, but it is indicative of a goalkeeper who hasn't played much in recent months / a keeper who has significantly regressed from a shot stopping perspective. Everything else he did has been regulation from any standard of keeper.

    Femenia played well, and hopeful it isn't a serious injury. Ngakia however looks like a player ready to step up now so it's nice having to viable RB's unlike last PL Season.

    Danny Rose will only get better. He's made some lovely passes and gets stuck in. He was however very fortunate to not concede a penalty so that is a big blotch mark against him there. Masina is a good backup option to have though if we need him but Rose must be starting every game now.

    Cathcart looks what he is; a Championship defender in the Premier League, much like Mariappa was. We need to let him go after this Season as he is getting regularly caught out. WTE looks increasingly assured and is making more timely inverventions than before. His passing is improving after his mistake v Brighton.

    Kucka looked gassed, but kept trying. Shouldn't be starting currently but not for a lack of effort. Sissoko is Sissoko. Moments of comedy and brilliance all within a few moments of each other. I love him already. Cleverley was the more stable of the midfielders and didn't do himself a disservice today.

    Sarr looked more his usual self. Still doesn't press as much as I'd like, like King and Dennis do but can't knock him when he delivers like he did. King played well too in the 2nd half, causing issues and producing an assist as well as the shot Sarr followed up on. Dennis pressed as well as usual and scored a very brave header.

    Happy overall with today with a caveat we need Bachmann back sooner than later and we need to sort our midfield out, hopefully with Tufan and / or Louza coming in soon and help provide some more creativity.
     
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  25. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Just beat Toon next week and we are as good as safe :cool:
     
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  26. jackwfc

    jackwfc Academy Graduate

    Thought Danny Rose was excellent today, and Cleverley also put in a very good shift.
     
  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    So do we get 9 points for this win ?

    :D:rolleyes:
     
  28. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Still an incompetent fool? Still should be sacked?
     
  29. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Celebrating the result with a bunch of cr3tins. Sorry cretians….cretians….I’m in Crete.
     
  30. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    I had a rant last Saturday night so only fair I come on straight after the final whistle to say well done to Xisco and the team. Maybe we don’t need Sir Eddie quite yet!

    As @wingco says, we are so dependant on Sarr. Today was one of his days, and we won accordingly.

    I might not have liked the changes Xisco made to the starting eleven, but I could see his thinking and at the end of the day, we won, so he obviously got it right.

    Yes Norwich are awful, but that’s not our concern. We haven’t been much better ourselves since the opening day, so that could yet prove to be a very big win.

    Now we get a nice chance on Tuesday to give more minutes to the likes of Louza, Cucho, Tufan, Fletcher etc.

    I’m hsving a great sporting day so far, with my cricket team winning an unlikely semi final victory in the Blast earlier, so the Watford game fell in between the semi and tonight's final. Come on Somerset.

    Quick quiz question...Dennis today became only the second Watford player to achieve what in the PL? Capoue was the first..,,,
     
  31. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Needed that.

    From what I viewed on US TV over here, I’d say we were 7.5/10 today. And it’s good to know we can win games at this level when we are good but not superb, even if it is Norwich (who look doomed already).

    In attack, I thought all 3 players showed flashes of ability and were solid enough, without showing 90 mins of consistency. Dennis started brilliantly but faded, King showed touches of what we might get if/when he gets up to speed and Sarr did his ‘regular’ act of flattering to deceive for periods before bursting into life.

    Happy with the midfields contribution today. Kucka was 6/10 all afternoon from what I saw. Regularly seemed to be running out of steam before getting a second wind but stuck at it - think he will be most at risk when Tufan is up to speed. Cleverley did what Cleverley does - pressures and never less than 100% effort. A sound option for games of this level - but undoubtedly found out against better opposition. Sissoko the best of the 3 - just a pure athlete of a player who will be a big part of any success we have this season IMO. Fantastic business.

    Thought both FB’s were sound enough - Kiko started up his relationship with Sarr once again nicely before showing what we all know - he’s made of glass. Rose is clearly a better player than Masina and I expect he will be the regular LB all season. He will also only get better I think once the full fitness returns.

    WTE had one of his better games and his distribution was decent enough. Lead the line very well and marshalled Norwich’s attackers well. Cathcart was average with occasional dips into ‘poor’. Clear weak link.

    Norwich didn’t put enough high balls into the box today to notice there being any difference between Foster and Bachmann so not really much comparison to make there IMO.

    Need to follow this up with a win against a poor Newcastle. Let’s hope they spend the week focussing on how to nullify Saint-Maximin. Win next week and we can look up again rather than down - at least temporarily!
     
  32. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I thought we played much better than we have in recent weeks. Our attacking play was better, or pressing was good and we deserved the win. Norwich are hard to break down but they remind me a little of us when we go behind. They offer very
    little. It took another donkey moment from Cathcart to gift them an undeserved equalizer. We started the game very well and carved out the first chance which could of been a bit of a comedy OG in our favor for once. Dennis scored probably one
    of the best headed goals i've seen, but what a cross from Kiko. We have been saying for weeks how much we have missed the Kiko/Sarr show and boy it was on full display today.

    Xisco had to win this - had we lost it would of been knives sharpened. We always seem to play well against Norwich or some reason, odd. Second half was a tighter affair and it was obvious Norwich were going for a point, but I am glad Sarr scored to
    put us back in front. We never really looked in serious danger of losing the game after that. Pukki is a great player, and he had Cathcart of toast almost all game. We really need to sign a decent RB in January. Can you imagine Cathcart against
    Sterling? With Brentford winning earlier, Newcastle and Leeds both grabbed a point, we needed to win today to avoid getting sucked into the bottom three, we did that and I am sure the most relieved man right now leaving Norfolk is Xisco Munoz. I think it's pretty clear (on today at least) that Norwich are a one league wonder club. Too good for the Championship, not good enough for the Premeirship. Six points, five played. If we can now go on and beat Newcastle next week that would be a massive
    confidence boost.

    I am under no illusions that one swallow doesn't make a summer, but ending our losing run and SCORING not one, but three goals away from home is quite something and I am sure the traveling horns will be delighted on their trip home. Sorry I was absent second half Shout Box but from what I read it was as exciting as ever. ;) Well done lads, well done Xisco, you may just of saved your job for another two weeks.
     
  33. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Also, all the hype about Gilmour after the England game, he was absolute shyte today
     
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  34. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Quoted as saying he had PL options but wanted to fight at the top end of a table rather than the bottom at his age.
     
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  35. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Can't be arsed to really analyse it, there's not much point as Norwich are so utterly dreadful. We were a bit better, front three and Cleverley very good.

    Someone on here argued with me a while ago that Brandon Williams was a really good player. Sorry but I'm not seeing it.
     
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