April Fool Werewolf 2020 Day 5

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Day 5 - Who's for Lynching?

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  1. Nornironhorn

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  4. domthehornet

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  5. HappyHornet24

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  1. HappyHornet24

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    I don’t think Opti was the wolf cub. I don’t think Diamond would bring another wolf in at this stage.
     
    HappyHornet24, Apr 7, 2020
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    Good point.

    What time shall we give as a cut off for a second message?
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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  3. nornironhorn

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    I can't think of any reason why the seer wouldn't have posted already if they were alive but they did wait a while yesterday.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    It was hinted at in last night's write up.

    Even if he wasn't going to activate another wolf, he would refer to their role probably like he did the April Fool.
     
    Horace_goes_up_north, Apr 7, 2020
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  5. domthehornet

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    I'd say about 3pm? Maybe a bit later.
     
    domthehornet, Apr 7, 2020
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  6. nornironhorn

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    In Post #59 in the sign up thread:

    To me, that suggests the extra 'o' was a typo.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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  7. Horace_goes_up_north

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    Doesn't that also suggest opti wasn't the cub then?
     
    Horace_goes_up_north, Apr 7, 2020
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  8. nornironhorn

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    Possibly, although I read the 'no clues' as nothing cryptic (I think was in response to Otter calling a player a 'character', etc.)
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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  9. miked2006

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    Pretty difficult decision for Diamond last night re: introducing a Full Moon.

    There are 7 villagers, including 5 good villagers and 2 evil. Introducing another wolf would mean the game would be over tonight if we didn't pick an evil.

    However if we kill an evil, the balance would be 5 or 4 good to 1 evil tomorrow, which should make the rest of the game a bit of a procession, especially with two confirmed good masons who we can listen to.

    I think the wolf made a big mistake not killing off a mason and allowing guaranteed good players to remain in the game. Hopefully they make the same mistake tonight.
     
    miked2006, Apr 7, 2020
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  10. Horace_goes_up_north

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    If we lynch the final wolf then we win. Only the traitor left and just lynch anyone but hh24 and CB over the next few days and it'll end 2-1 to good. Unless a full moon is added.

    So we could end it today with the right lynching.
     
    Horace_goes_up_north, Apr 7, 2020
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  11. nornironhorn

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    If we kill a wolf in our lynching we win. The game will end when the wolves are dead.

    Even if the traitor is alive the game will still be over.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    I didn't read the write up as Opti being the wolf club I must admit. Just a tease from Diamond that he thought about it but at this stage of the game it didn't happen.

    I am in calls and meetings this afternoon but hopefully a second message will have come in by the time I'm out. If there's none, then surely the back up seer will have messaged as they did yesterday and does that mean its the beta wolf who can't post after alpha died last night?

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    steve harrow, Apr 7, 2020
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  13. miked2006

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    Oh oops, I really should read the rules.

    Point still stands though.
     
    miked2006, Apr 7, 2020
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    Hmm. Who should we vote for then, if no message comes?
     
    miked2006, Apr 7, 2020
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  15. nornironhorn

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    I have never seen this happen before... normally if an Alpha dies the Beta takes over their role as messenger.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    As it stands, I'm leaning towards Steve but I'm a little worried he is 'just' the traitor.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    Today's message says Horace is evil so that's an obvious choice no? I know some people are suspicious of me from yesterday and am not foolish enough to think you've stopped being but if there's no second message, we have to presume the first is from the back up seer. Else why would they not message?

    If there's a second message then we have to see what says of course.

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    steve harrow, Apr 7, 2020
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  18. nornironhorn

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    They could be dead.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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  19. Horace_goes_up_north

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    I'm trying to understand how though. They were active yesterday. The write up doesn't suggest they were killed overnight.
     
    Horace_goes_up_north, Apr 7, 2020
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  20. nornironhorn

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    As has been suggested by some other players, the fact the full moon was 'cancelled' last night after Opti's death could suggest it was cancelled as our seer was killed.

    There is no reason a seer would not have posted by now surely?
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    Opti's play on Day 4 (when the apprentice seer became the seer):

    1st comment (the wolf's message had already come through at this point):

    2nd comment:

    Further posts:

    When asked about how the masons revealing themselves would help a seer:
    When HH24 says she doesn’t think there is a seer:
    The seer's message was posted before the masons outed themselves in the end, and the message included this:

    Final posts from Opti:

    In hindsight, the above all makes it look like Opti was in fact our back-up seer.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    Some thoughts from myself (these assume Miked is good as well as myself, CB and HH24).

    Steve has been very keen to keep putting Horace's name in the firing line on most days since he was named as good by the Alpha. Therefore, I am confident this combination isn't true: Steve is traitor and Horace is Beta.

    Horace, instead of letting the comments slide, reacted very defensively to Steve saying on day 3 that he would be voting for him. He arguably responded in an accusatory manner:
    To me, this suggests this combination isn't true either: Horace is traitor and Steve is Beta.

    If the above is correct, Horace and Steve can't be on the same team as we know neither of them were the Alpha.

    I know I'm good.
    I know CB and HH24 are good.
    I think Miked is good as he wrote the following message:
    If Mike was the Beta or the Traitor, why would he name the Alpha who he knew at this point?

    This leaves one player who then has to be evil.

    Dom.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    Dear Villagers,

    I must send my apologies regarding the Day 5 opening message. Despite my promise in the rules that there would be no clues in my write ups I was left with no choice today due to typical Werewolf unforseen circumstances. I felt that to be too honest could potentially ruin todays play. There were no typos, and until the Alpha Wolf choice of Optimistic last night the Wolf Cub was going to be in play today. The Wolf Cub had not been chosen at that point.

    There will not be any more clues in messages.
     
    Diamond, Apr 7, 2020
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    Safe to assume now that Opti was our backup seer.
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    Yup.
     
    Horace_goes_up_north, Apr 7, 2020
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    Really good write up and work there Norn.
     
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  27. domthehornet

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    But this is all based on MikeD being good, what if he is the Alpha and Steve is the traitor? The wolf has seen that Steve is in the firing line and is trying to send us down a different route with Horace.

    This is backed up by Diamonds recent post that infers Opti was back up seer.
     
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  28. nornironhorn

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    GoingDown was the Alpha.

    Unless Mike, as Beta who knew Alpha or as Traitor who knew both Beta and Alpha, has done an almighty bluff and named the Alpha as evil (when there weren't many players accusing GD), then I am assuming Mike is good.
     
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    Great. The Beta Wolf chose well and we now have no Seer.
     
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  30. domthehornet

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    Mike is an experienced player, it would be audacious to name the Alpha at that stage however it was buried within other names.

    No one really suspected GD until the seer viewed him.
     
    domthehornet, Apr 7, 2020
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    Who do you think we should lynch?
     
    nornironhorn, Apr 7, 2020
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    The seer may only have viewed him because Mike mentioned him. Feels pretty ballsy as a beta or traitor to out your alpha when no one is looking at them.

    Not totally out of the question but brave.
     
    Horace_goes_up_north, Apr 7, 2020
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    Honestly, Steve. He has been shifty all game and done just enough to coast through the game.
     
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    Seeing as we know this morning's message was from the wolf, it is probably less likely now that Horace is the Beta wolf.

    Horace could still be the traitor (although I don't think he is) but we win the game tonight if we kill the Beta.
     
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