Werewolf XVI: Day 3

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  1. sonofben

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    to take us back quickly to TVOR death note/speech. He claimed to not look at someone as they could be seen good as evil. With both messages saving Darave is evil today, to whom was TVOR referring too
     
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    But nobody knows who the tinker is except the tinker when they're viewed?
     
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    He was saying that we should just kill darave and view me.

    But the seer had already seen me
    And the seer hadn't already seen darave, the werewolf pretended he had in week 1.
     
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    We can't be 100% certain about this mike.
     
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    I'm going to put my vote in and then bow out of discussion.

    I don't think there's much point in diving into speculation until we know where we stand tomorrow.
     
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  6. Harrow Orn

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    When did you "bow in" to discussion? ;)
     
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  7. sonofben

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    It seems as if he is strongly hinting that some one viewed evil is a tinker. Now I am not sure how TVOR would know this, but the fact he death note was revealed, is curious.
     
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    Haha I know. Just quickly dropped by!
     
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  9. With A Smile

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    Emm i don't see the hint myself

    Having named 3 people earlier I could easily put myself in the firing line to be killed tonight - yes ?
    With darave8 already gone, just another person voting for him is easy to kill

    Why Nornirhorn ? perhaps there was some little things that he posted that i thought were suspicious in one way or another
     
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    Yeah no worries.

    I've been very active purely because my screen at work cannot be seen by anyone so I can get away with it :)
     
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    Your insistence on repeating this, which we don't know is true, makes me more and more suspicious of you
     
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  12. nornironhorn

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    Like what?

    If you go back to yesterday's game I was one of the only ones sticking up for TVOR, most people wanted him lynched whereas I said to go for Darave
     
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  13. miked2006

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    The seer has already seen me.
     
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    How can we be certain?
     
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    Did I mention yesterday ?
     
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    Then what today?

    Your random accusation and subsequent failure to back it up with anything has been strange
     
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    How do we know this? For certain I mean.
     
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    how do you know that ?
     
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  19. With A Smile

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    is this a little tease, just hanging out there ?
     
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    Its really quite simple.

    3 people died last night. Agree?

    So last night, there were 3 wolves. We know one wolf has already died, Cude. This means at the close of play yesterday there were 4 evils, a traitor and 3 wolves.

    Now, we don't seem to be sure on the rules surrounding wolf picks. Cthulu could have been a wolf and picked a kill and then himself be picked. We don't seem to know if a wolf being picked by another wolf cancels out their own pick.

    So we are unsure at the minute if Cthulu was a wolf or traitor.

    However, tomorrow morning, there will either be 3 wolf kills or 2. (Unless Darave is a wolf).

    If the 3 wolves are still alive (i.e, 3 kills), then Cthulu was obviously the traitor. If 2 wolves kill tonight, we will know we have killed two wolves... i.e Cthulu and Cude.
     
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  21. nornironhorn

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    I don't get what you're implying..? I was completely inactive due to the bank holiday on Day 1 so obviously didn't send any messages? I was lucky to stay in the game so can't have been the seer or wolf on those days.

    If I was hinting about sending a message, that would just draw attention to myself from both sides, i.e wolves would want to kill the seer, villagers would want to kill the wolves. Why on earth would anyone be stupid enough to 'tease' like that
     
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    why indeed !
     
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    I would like to hear the views of the following to be honest:

    sonofben
    merchandiseman41
    Optimistic
    fox in the box
    PhilippineOrn
    Daft Row
    Abso.

    All very quiet.
     
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  24. sonofben

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    Hello. What would you like to hear. Apologizes for the quietness. By the time I got on due to the time difference. It seemed over
     
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    Although I have been royally stitched up and had some serious bad luck, I've really enjoyed this game.

    I've laughed out loud on more than one occasion, especially when the two messages today named me evil.

    I'm seriously jealous of the wolves as I'm sure they are having a great time, and laughing even louder!
     
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    I am actually almost inclined to believe you. You've allegedly been viewed as Good. The main source of doubt cast upon you from what I've read was instigated by TVOR yesterday afternoon when he was panic posting. The guy was as good as gone anyway, kept telling us he was going, and hen returned to stir up even more. Ultimately he was the governor who's role description is as below:

    Governor - The Governor is a regular villager with one exception. The Governor has the power to overturn a lynching as voted by the players on any given day.

    When a lynching vote is complete, the moderator will ask whether or not the Governor wants to come forward and pardon the victim. If the Governor issues the pardon, the victim is not lynched and there is no lynching that day.

    The Governor reveals his identity to stop a lynching, and as such it is known from that point forward to all players who the Governor is (Wolves are of course likely to kill the Governor pretty quickly once their identity is revealed, unless of course the Governor is doing a bad job...). The Governor is not revealed before this time.

    Whilst alive and active the Governor may stop as many lynchings as he likes, but he cannot issue a pardon to himself.


    Sooooo, there isn't any way in which you could take this as gospel, and reckon due to the doubts expressed about miked for his posts on day 1 could have led to the genuine seer viewing him on day 2. It would make sense if we're going by the posting style of the messages also, which tend to be a good indicator as to which messages correlate to which over the course of the game.
     
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    Yeah I know you're an exception. I'm not accusing anyone in that list, but some might have something useful to say that's all.
     
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    That said... I think finding out whether darave is evil or the tinker could be a very important point in the game, and could throw the origin of the messages into greater doubt.
     
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    I understand. The logical thing is to go with Darve. I am just hung up on TVOR death note/speech from last night. As I assumed he was talking about Darve, but with the double evil today it does not seem to be the case.
     
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    Purge them all, I say.
     
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    Don't see how posts like this are valuable to the discussion. If you're going to fire out accusations at least try and form an argument to back them up.
     
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    Now that's not very neighborly
     
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    Well I'm off out for the night, my day of fishing has finished and was somewhat enjoyable.

    It is surprising just how quiet some go as they slither off under the arrow of accusation.

    See you in the morning
     
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    Was meant to include you in that list.

    In which case, I agree.
     
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