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  1. sherlock

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    Personally, I feel better with Stramaccioni.
    Delneri was at a moment from signing it seems, then it was all blocked by "details".
    Details were that he wanted his whole staff (vice-coach, athletic coach, GKs coach) installed in place of current Udinese's staff. AND that he wanted reinforcements: Quagliarella from Juventus and two more players of his choice.
    Soooooo NOT Pozzo's style!
    I prefer a young manager, capable of doing well with young players.
    Anyone can show shining diamonds. I prefer managers capable of cutting shining diamonds from raw stones. Guidolin was certainly one. Hopefully Stramaccioni can be another. I doubt Delneri could have been one.
     
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    What kind of style does Stramaccioni like? I never really got a sense of his style of play, but did get the impression the weight of expectation at Inter was his downfall.

    Dejan Stankovic was my go-to signing on PES 6 (I think)
     
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    It seems Muriel has asked to leave but has been told no. Has there been any interest in him?
     
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    Doubt it, missing the Colombia WC squad has rounded off a terrible season for him. Not surprised he wants to leave as he hasn't had much of a chance this year
     
  5. sherlock

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    Muriel had his chances, even among injuries and a too defensive team rarely fielding 2 strikers! But unfortunately he didn't show much.
    I'm sorry he wasn't called for Colombia as a good World Cup by him could have led to some good offers.
    He has talent, but seems more a liability than an asset to Udinese. He has great feet but seems to be lacking in mind, heart and ba**s.
    I'm not sure about his future as a possible true champion unless he changes.
    In some games Di Natale, 36YO, seemed to run around and help the team twice than Muriel, 23YO!!!

    But he will not be sold at a quite lower than expected price to Roma or Fiorentina after a rather disappointing season IMHO. Pozzo will keep him in hope for a decent season next year and a better transfer value maybe to some Premier League team. I just hope he'll not be a delusion again.
     
  6. sherlock

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    Next season the works for the construction of Udinese's new stadium (one sector at a time) will limit its capacity to about 15.000
    So Udinese found an agreement with Trieste municipality in order to use Trieste's "Nereo Rocco" stadium for the foreseeable "high attendance" home matches against the likes of Juventus, Napoli, Inter, Milan, Roma.

    As Trieste's stadium is a sort of cathedral in the desert, (https://translate.google.it/transla...tp://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadio_Nereo_Rocco) with its 32.000 capacity for a team playing in 5th tier among the non-pro, this sounds like a sensible idea.

    Only problem is that football (and not only) "friendship" between Udine and Trieste is quite similar to the one between Watford and Luton.
     
  7. sherlock

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    Dejan Stankovic is officially the new Assistant Manager for Stramaccioni. It is his first experience as a coach. He had to resolve his contract with Inter (for which he was chief scout for East Europe).

    Rejected a 12M€ bid for Scuffet from Atletico Madrid. He stays here!

    Udinese team will begin pre-season July 7th and this is the list of the players (some are still to arrive and will join later next week):
    GKs: Benussi Francesco, Brkic Zeljko, Kelava Ivan, Meret Alex, Scuffet Simone
    Defenders: Belmonte Nicola, Bochniewicz Pawel, Bubnjic Igor, Do Santos Douglas, Domizzi Maurizio, Gomes Pereira Edinaldo, Heurtaux Thomas, Larangeira Danilo, Widmer Silvan
    Midfielders: Alves Dos Santos Jadson, Antunes Da Silva Gabriel, Faraoni Marco Davide, Fernandes Borges Bruno, Pasquale Giovanni, Pereyra Roberto, Pinzi Giampiero, Zielinski Piotr.
    Attackers: Di Natale Antonio, Lopez Alonso Nicolas, Muriel Fruto Luis, Jaadi Nabil, Thereau Cyril, Vutov Antonio, Zapata Alexis.

    Some notes:
    - there are several players who will most likely be sold or sent on loan during this transfer window (Naldo, Pereyra, Brkic, Kelava) or who will probably mostly play in the Primavera (U18) team (Meret, Bochniewicz, Jaadi, Vutov, Zapata)
    - Karnezis, Badu, Armero (who will be sold) will certainly arrive later as they were at the World Cup
    - many names still missing, several should stay here (Alhassan, Allan, Edenilson, Mlinar) but what about many others? Maybe going (or staying) on loan? (Romo, Coeff, Merkel, Riera, Rovini, Ighalo)
    - Faraoni AFAIK is fully a WFC player for next 4 years and there were no official announcements of a transfer or a loan, but he's in the list.
     
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    The nay-sayers were right all along. We have become a nursery club for Udinese just for them to cherry pick all our best players :dismay:
     
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    Odd that Riera isn't on that list...
     
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    He is :confused:
     
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    Where?
     
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    Classic TVOR.
     
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    :doh:
     
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    That boy is going to earn Udinese a small fortune at this rate.
     
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    Yes it's a rumour flying loud. Doesn't seem too believable to me: 5M€+bonuses and sell-on-fees, they say.
    IMHO right now it's just like reading on some news that Deeney will surely play next season in Premier 'cos Watford has accepted the 5M£ bid from Burnley.
    We'll see anyway.
     
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    It's not a pozzo operation. Why selling a very young player who has not even played a full season yet?

    Who knows.. let's see
     
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    Also strange for Granada CF

    We have Roberto, know we have Oier too… And everywhere they say that he will come on loan to Granada?

    And if that was true… Wouldn't it be more "Pozzo style" to loan it to Granada directly and, maybe in a time, sell him with a good prize?

    Strange operation
     
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    Any news on the Mejia loan to Watford?
     
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    Hasn't even signed for Udine as far as I'm aware
     
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    Interesting and welcome choices by the two at the extreme age range in our team.

    Scuffet (18) was offered a contract by Atletico Madrid. About 11M€ as transfer fee and 900K€ (+ up to 500K€ bounuses) per year in a 5 years contract for the lad.
    That's 3x what he earns here (300k) and much more than the average wage of a GK in serie A.
    It appears the club didn't want to "block" a possible interesting career choice for the lad and in front of an acceptable transfer fee (probably including sell-on clauses) left the choice to the player, who turned down the offer.
    http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/117040/scuffet-turned-down-atletico-move/

    Di Natale (36), from a rumour of today, near the end of last season turned down an offer of 10M€ for a 2 year contract by Guangzhou Evergrande (manager: Lippi) because he didn't want to leave his family and Udine.
    http://messaggeroveneto.gelocal.it/...e-ha-detto-no-ai-milioni-dei-cinesi-1.9621951

    Either our players are lazy and unwilling to transfer for job, or Udine and Udinese are a pleasant environment for a player and we have some players who value quality of life more than huge amounts of money (and rightly value that, if they have already quite a better wage than the average person, sometimes you don't need to search for more and more and more).
    I prefer to think it's the second option.
     
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    Good for him. Clearly has a sensible head on those shoulders.

    Very smart of Udinese to let him talk to them as well. Reinforces the idea in his mind that when it is time for him to move on, the club won't stand in his way.
     
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    Pereyra is a talented player and he can still improve a lot.
    Tactical ductility is a plus, because under Guidolin he has played in a lot of different positions: RW, LW, RWB, LWB, CM, AM, striker. Given that, I expect him to play a lot of matches at Juventus.
    Discontinuity seems to be his limit so far. He alternates some really brilliant matches (particularly the "important ones") to some others really dull. If pressure at Juventus help him mantain concentration, than he might become really a very good player.
     
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    You are right Sherlock. :) He has become more of an attacking midfielder than where he was at River Plate but he is still rather variable in performance as you say. Then again di Maria was quite similar in his early career (although Pereyra will not be of his level whereas Ocampos might be).

    I would have preferred if he had gone to Internazionale rather than that corrupt club though. ;)
     
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    Has Guidolin started in his role of overseeing the three clubs?
     
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    He should be back from holiday now that the Tour de France is over
     
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    Interesting tech news.
    http://messaggeroveneto.gelocal.it/...un-gps-per-controllare-i-bianconeri-1.9734236
    Udinese has been using last year and has confirmed this season the use of an experimental GPS device constructed by a local society in cooperation with a professor of University of Udine andtwo former Udinese's athletic trainers.
    The 20hz sampling GPS tracker allows a fine tuned measurement of players movements, efforts, runs etc during training and to evaluate their performance analysis.
    The device is now commercially available and it appears other professional teams have shown interest.
    Granada and Watford too are using the same devices.
    http://www.gpexe.com/
     
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    This evening, first official match for Udinese in the third round of Coppa Italia, at home against Ternana (second division).
    At half time 3-1 with a hat-trick by a player named Di Natale.
    Sounds like an interesting young prospect!
     
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    Watford reject ... it's a no from me

    (Edit: or was it reject Watford, I'm never sure?)
     
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    He's bagged 5 goals!
     
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    Full time 5-1.
    Four goals by Di Natale, who graciously let Thereuax shoot the penalty for the last goal, before going out subbed by Lopez for a quite well earned standing ovation.
     
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    Sherlock, has Stramaccioni made any obvious changes to the way you play?
     
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    We are still 3-5-2 but with Guidolin it was most often 3-5-1-1 with midfielders more of "quantity" over quality and trying mostly for speed in counter-attack.
    Stramaccioni didn't want to change too much apparently, with players accustomed to 3 in defence, but wants more passing in midfield and uses a Pirlo-style deep playmaker (Guilherme or Fernandes) and plays with two proper strikers, not Di Natale as lone striker with a "trequartista" behind him.
     
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    My mistake! livescore.com said Di Natale took the penalty. What a performance nonetheless!
     

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