Barnsley Team and reaction - Page 2

Evasive · 06-02-2010, 05:06 PM

Given our away form and recent overall form it was inevitable.

Doesn't mean I am not disappointed though.

easthertshornet · 06-02-2010, 05:14 PM

Although we may have had a reasonable transfer window with our aquisitions, as I think I've said before, we lack a cutting edge especially away from home and we really could have done with Malky getting another striker although this may be Buckley's role in the long term.

What is really annoying is our lamentable away form. It must be one of the worst in the country! You almost expect to write off the result now if its an away game.

jpROOKERYwfc · 06-02-2010, 06:01 PM

was inevitable we would lose up at barnsley, oh well... next stop QPR.

Smithy · 06-02-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jpROOKERYwfc

was inevitable we would lose up at barnsley, oh well... next stop QPR.

They got 2 players sent off today and lost 1-0 away to Peterboro. Lee co ck and Priskin started and both got subbed off. Will be there with many others, shall be a good one and hopefully we'll get the away win.

matimbers · 06-02-2010, 06:18 PM

Boo, Malky out etc etc

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Originally Posted by jpROOKERYwfc

was inevitable we would lose up at barnsley, oh well... next stop QPR.

Indeed. Thought the maximun we would have got was a draw to be honest, no suprises today. Harford is quickly taking QPR down towards the relegation zone so it will a great time to play them, assuming they have not got yet another manager by then that is. Win this one away and it could be a good confident booster for them all.

charliesays · 06-02-2010, 06:26 PM

i can't really decide wether we should have won two-one or two-nil because really the play leading up to there goal should have been stopped. i dont like to blame it all on the ref, and at times, especially after that scum bag got sent off we didnt play aswell as we should have, and i think eustace had another shocking(well not shocking actually i expected him to play ****) performance. but we should have with out a doubt been given that penalty and from where i was sat we had a perfectly legitimate goal disallowed (although to be fair i was sat at the other end of the pitch) we've often had refs who have been crap but in the end of the day not affected the overall result (the one from blackpool for instance) but i've not got a doubt in my mind, a better ref would have meant a totally different outcome today

wfc4ever · 06-02-2010, 06:51 PM

Well at least it sounds like we gave somer sort of decent performance on the road but without the luck and there was the typical poor defending for the winner.

Knowing our away form we would've missed the potential penalty!

Going by what Malky said we seemed no worse than on Tuesday..

Thank goodness we're at home on Tuesday!

Pikey_Power · 06-02-2010, 07:02 PM

our away form is nothing short of pantsss!

With A Smile · 06-02-2010, 07:21 PM

We struggle away from home because we lack a strong pysical presence.
No its not great form, but as long as we get to 52 points I don't care if its done away or at home.

leighton buzzard horn · 06-02-2010, 07:26 PM

Barnsley were utter cack and there for the taking, unfortunately we didn't seem to go at them too much. Mariappa and Cowie were toothless down the right, Jenkins may as well have stayed at home, H was in a tough battle with Darren Moore. With Moore being good in the air but sadly lacking in every other department, it baffled me as to why we pumped the ball up to H every time we got the ball rather than attack their full backs.

The ref was a joke. We should have had a pen, the goal he disallowed looked dubious at best and there were several other weird, baffling decisions. The only one he got right was the red card. It was a shocking challenge, and shows the level of intelligence generally dished out to northeners by their decision to boo Doyley for the rest of the game.

As for the goal, Mariappa should have dealt with it but didn't. The fella was then through one on one with Loach but with the ball ahead of him. Loach started to go and then went back to his line for some stupid farking reason, leaving the fella with the whole goal to aim at rather than a tighter angle by having a keeper bearing down on him.

We never looked like scoring in the second half. I don't know what was said at half time but we just stopped and seemed like we were going to spend 45 minutes trying to secure a 0-0 draw.

Bubble · 06-02-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nak108

Sounded we actually played decently but just lacked a cutting edge, something Cleverley probably would have offered.

One mistake in defence and one goal. It sounded like we actually did quite well in defence apart from that one slip-up, which is disappointing.

Sounded like Taylor had another good game although tired near the end.

Only 2 shots on target, we needed to test the goalkeeper more and my fears before the game came true. We lacked that attacking drive and dribbling ability from Cleverley and although we seemed to put in a reasonably solid performance we lacked that dynamism.

I'll pull you straight up there. We were utterly dreadful. We had moments in the first half where we played some good stuff and cut them open a few times. Doyley, Harley, Helguson and Lansbury showed glimpses of quality going forward.

Second half we just hoofed it and didn't pass the ball! Hopeless. How is HH suppose to beat Steve Foster 6'3, and Darren Moore 6'4 in the air, on his own? Ok, for a bloke of 5'10, he's immense in the air, but today he had no chance!

Whippendell Woods · 06-02-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by leighton buzzard horn

We never looked like scoring in the second half. I don't know what was said at half time but we just stopped and seemed like we were going to spend 45 minutes trying to secure a 0-0 draw.

I agree with all you have said so far. But hey, Danny Graham DID score by heading back across goal into the far corner but due to the swirly mists and distance to the other end, who knows why it was disallowed? I guessed for a mythical foul in the middle as DG looked to jumo cleanly.

This was a home team there for the taking, they were limited. We were so much better but toothless.

A shame Barnsley's team aren't as clean and spotless as their stadium's bogs.

But we have to shoot to score. We didn't. At all.

Too many players "chip" the ball up in air or hopefully across the box yet again like an eight iron is on their boots - eg Jenkins, Cowie, Mariappa - get the ball down and BL00DY shoot, people!

Doyley had his winger for pace every time, so that man was subbed off 2nd half.

We should have been out of sight by half time as we won more ball, moved it better, tackled and closed down better and ALMOST broke through many times.

This time, no Chris Morgan to get injured, and no mistakes from their big centre backs meant we seemed to hoping for a gift that wasn't to be delivered.

Harley was really effective on the left, Lansbury had some bite about him again and this all looked good.

The right hand side with Cowie (please run not stand still and lay it off all the time, please) and Mariappa was weaker.

Not incisive enough, yet again.

Harley's 1st half snap shot was sliced wide of the far post as the ball was hit across so fast from Doyley, Harley did well to hit it at all.

While Mariappa was rightly booked for a cynical, tactical half way line foul on the eventual goalscorer (who did zip all else), Heidar was cut in half by a tackle and the assailant only spoken to? A few more potential yellows for Barnsley were also ignored by the ref.

Barnsley, I think, has two shots, the one that hit a post through a crowd of players (well covered Scott) and the one after Mariappa got the wrong side of their 14 when the ball came across our box, then compounded it by making a hash of the challenge to leave the guy one on one with Loach to score near post.

Not the only mistake as a tiring Martin Taylor underhit/mishit a back pass to leave another one on one for Loach to deal with, who this time miraculously saved.

They were fired up by their gifted goal and so fired up their guy decided to make an aerial attack on Lloyd Doyley's thigh that span him up in the air.
Clearly NOT a red card to the racist cavemen in the Barnsley main stand. Guy with the white and blue hooped Fred Perry and red hat, I shall remember you. Mug.

Too often again, we chipped the ball up when a Cleverley would have instigated passing on the deck which would have cut them open.

Jenkins rightly subbed - a too quiet game - I'd have swapped Mariappa for Hodson too as Hodson delivers the ball better then AM did today. And we cried out for that.

Harley must surely have done enough to keep his place, Cleverley in for Jenkins next time out please....

And one of the WFC coaches got sent from the bench to the stands for encouraging the ref on his "performance".

Barnsley got lucky, the timewasting, histrionics and foreigners' hissy fits paying off. Brian Glover would disown 'em.

wfcwarehouse · 06-02-2010, 10:44 PM

Poor, no disrespect to Barnsley but we should be getting results against teams like them.

Bubble · 06-02-2010, 11:00 PM

Well I got home 30 minutes ago. Six f**king hours it took me to get back to Southampton. I got stuck on the M1 at junction 23 for about an hour and a half.

Waste of time, money and petrol. I could have sat at home and painted something, and then watched it dry. It would have been more entertaining. Instead I had to endure spineless performances from most of the team. They looked like they didn't give a sh*t.

We played ok in patches in the first half. Harley, Doyley, HH and Lansbury caused them problems, and we looked the more likely to win the game.

From my angle, we had a blatant penalty turned down for the lunge on Lansbury when he was through on goal. The defender was deemed to have played the ball, but to me Lansbury nicked it away from him and he was then bought down. It was a certain pen, and therefore a redcard, as he was through on goal. The ref totally bottled it!

The red card he did give to a Barnsley player was probably the only decision he got right all day! It was a shocking 'challenge', and I called it straight away. In fact, on another day, Barnsley could have ended up with 8 men on the pitch, such was the terrible challenges going in. Football is a mans game, but there's a difference between challenging hard and fair, and then going out to deliberately hurt someone.

Barnsley were even worse than us (hard to believe, as we were shocking in the second half), and were there for the taking, but we decided to stop passing the ball, and went long to HH. Complete waste of time. Eustace and Jenkins were too deep. They're far too similar. Everytime HH had the ball, he only had Lansbury to pick out. Often it was Lansbury and HH against about 5 players.

The only players for me that came out with any credit were: Doyley, Harley, Helguson and Lansbury. They all worked their nuts off, and were the only ones that look interested.

Players that can f**k off out of the club if they want to turn in performances like that again: Demerit, Mariappa, Cowie, Eustace, Jenkins.

Loach had nothing to do except pick the ball out his net. Taylor was ok. Nothing special. Steady player. Far better than that clown Demerit.

Neither side deserved to win the game, because both were as sh*t as the other. Credit to Barnsley, they took their only chance of the game (because Mariappa is a tw*t and let the ball bounce rather than meet it and clear it).

Loach 5 - Had nothing to do.

Mariappa 4 - Was run ragged by their left-winger all game. Crap performance. Looks better at centre-back.

Taylor 6 - Not bad. One howler towards the end, but wasn't punished for it.

Demerit 3 - Not a captain, not interested in playing for the club (he pulled out of a challenge in the first half on the edge of the box...that's setting a good example, isn't it

). Positioning was poor, passing was poor, he just hoofed the ball aimlessley (it was like watching a Boothroyd team again).

Doyley 7 - Had a good game. Some nice touches, defended well, and attacked well too.

Cowie 3 - May aswell have stayed at home. Useless.

Jenkins 1 - Ditto Cowie, but he was even worse!

Eustace 3 - Slow, old and not good enough to play every week. Felt a bit sorry for him as he was having to do Jenkins' job aswell. We needed some mobility in centre midfield. We'd have been better off with Lansbury in there with Eustace, and playing 2 upfront.

Harley 7 - Worked hard, was unlucky with an effort in the first half which would have been a fantastic team goal. I felt sorry for him as he was playing with a bunch of numpties in the midfield today.

Lansbury 7 - Nice touches, should have had a penalty, linked up well with HH in the first half. However in the second half he was nulified by us hoofing the ball over his head every 10 seconds! When he did get the ball to feet in the first half, he was the best player on the pitch.

Helguson 8 - Man of the match, IMO. Worked his nuts off, fought a losing battle against Foster and Moore. He needed help upfront, but he did what he could, and did it very well indeed. I felt for him out there.

Whippendell Woods · 06-02-2010, 11:08 PM

Bubble is spot on - except for failing to veer off at M1 J23a to go down the M42/M40 ....

leighton buzzard horn · 06-02-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Whippendell Woods

Bubble is spot on - except for failing to veer off at M1 J23a to go down the M42/M40 ....

Agreed..! Just over two hours back to LB, not too bad at all.

Desmond · 06-02-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble

The red card he did give to a Barnsley player was probably the only decision he got right all day! It was a shocking 'challenge', and I called it straight away.

Listened to the Barnsley biased commentary and two of the comments were along the lines of:

"Doyley didn't even require the physio, so it was obviously not a red card"

"Doyley is quite rightly getting booed after his 50 rolls following the tackle"

Just seen it on the BBC and it just backed up how stupid/one sided the commentators really were!

wfc4ever · 07-02-2010, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wfcwarehouse

Poor, no disrespect to Barnsley but we should be getting results against teams like them.

A team above us and in decent form who we always seem to do poorly away against TBH...we've lost to much worse this season.

Maybe its part of the problem on the road...some players expect to turn up and just win without having to do much?

Surprised to hear Eustace wasn't getting stuck in at least.

It might be interesting to see what happens to Cowie next season because he doesn't have the pace to play out wide and might well be replaced there by a McGinn/Buckley.

Seems like the usuals had decent games and were competitive but we need more on our travels it seems.

Cannot just rely on Lansbury or Cleverlery to produce a trick or two all the time...

At least Scott Loach wasn't pulled off save after save this time so we must have defending bettter (not hard)

With A Smile · 07-02-2010, 08:20 AM

It does show you how the radio commentry can give such a different view.

They made it sound like we were winning everything in the first half and creating loads of chances, just not taking them.

They didn't seem to single anyone out as being well below par, Cowie, Jenkins, Eustace, but if three of your midfield do have shockers you are going to lose.

yelnred · 07-02-2010, 08:54 AM

Bring back Hodson and Drop Mary! He's had a awful season and needs to be rested urgently!