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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Peel View Post
    How did it go?
    That chant? Very well. Not sure it was entirely original though ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked2006 View Post
    To be honest, I understand the need to look for a silver lining with out current awful play, but Success has continuously failed to impress in the time he is given, since his latest injury.

    Of course he is young, and he has great raw attributes. But looking to him as the saviour at this moment in time is only setting yourself up for failure.

    He is not match fit and can't seem to get match fit. He looks like he's made of glass, and now is playing with an element of fear which he's never had before.

    I hope I'm wrong, Walt give him a half and he's suddenly great again. My mind says that he will continue to look a duck out of water.

    Oh, and Niang's been sh*t too for the last few games.
    When Villa went down I was one wanting Adama Traore to come in. Very similar to Success in direct string running style taking on players and one of the few players who really stood out for Villa.

    Watching Traore yesterday tear through Manu's defence over and over again made me sad that we didn't go for him. Then again, who knows what type of player he would have turned into with 6 months of playing for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Peel View Post
    How did it go?
    You wrecked your own bus
    You wrecked your own bus
    You stupid w**kers,
    You wrecked your own bus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beekayess View Post
    You wrecked your own bus
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    Yeah. That was it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meh! View Post
    When Villa went down I was one wanting Adama Traore to come in. Very similar to Success in direct string running style taking on players and one of the few players who really stood out for Villa.

    Watching Traore yesterday tear through Manu's defence over and over again made me sad that we didn't go for him. Then again, who knows what type of player he would have turned into with 6 months of playing for us.
    Hmm, I don't know how to gauge Traore. Under both Garde and Karanka, he made most of his appearances as a sub and from what I've got from Boro fans, he's one of those players whose feet go faster than his brain does. He could've just upped his game because he was on the telly against Man Utd. Alternatively, he could have been limited to these skills so far because he's played under defensive-minded (well, at least with Karanka anyways) coaches. That probably means he would still have been useless for us this season because Walter is more of a defensive coach than an attacking-minded coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nisman94 View Post
    Hmm, I don't know how to gauge Traore. Under both Garde and Karanka, he made most of his appearances as a sub and from what I've got from Boro fans, he's one of those players whose feet go faster than his brain does. He could've just upped his game because he was on the telly against Man Utd. Alternatively, he could have been limited to these skills so far because he's played under defensive-minded (well, at least with Karanka anyways) coaches. That probably means he would still have been useless for us this season because Walter is more of a defensive coach than an attacking-minded coach.
    A player who ups his game on TV - we could definitely do with him then just for the 8 games or so we're on as ours all disappear on TV.

    The few times I've seen him, he's always been one of the stand out players.

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    It's hard to disagree that both Walter an Flores were/are bad coaches for us. Unfortunately they don't appear to be bad for anyone else ( apart from Inter). I really think the plyers are the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meh! View Post
    A player who ups his game on TV - we could definitely do with him then just for the 8 games or so we're on as ours all disappear on TV.

    The few times I've seen him, he's always been one of the stand out players.
    Well when you put it like that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying noises View Post
    It's hard to disagree that both Walter an Flores were/are bad coaches for us. Unfortunately they don't appear to be bad for anyone else ( apart from Inter). I really think the plyers are the problem.
    I sort of agree though I think the real issue is that we have too many similar sort of players here and theres no balance in the squad. I mean you look through our first team squad and we only have 2 fullbacks (who have missed more games through injury/suspension than they have played), one actual proper winger (whose been injured) and everyone else whose left is either a centerback, def midfielder or a striker. Thinking about it we have more goalkeepers than wide players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamo380 View Post
    I sort of agree though I think the real issue is that we have too many similar sort of players here and theres no balance in the squad. I mean you look through our first team squad and we only have 2 fullbacks (who have missed more games through injury/suspension than they have played), one actual proper winger (whose been injured) and everyone else whose left is either a centerback, def midfielder or a striker. Thinking about it we have more goalkeepers than wide players.
    Nope. We have a selection of players pretty much like anyone else. And we have a real maverick too. I do love a maverick. Only 20 y.o. But for some reason he's kept in cotton wool. I ain't seen a barnet like it since Jason Lee. So put him on the pitch at the beginning for effs sake Walter. In his various home cameos so far he's put the fear of god in the Manure and been instrumental in winning a late pen. He's scored a quite beautiful glancing header against the Muff. And he's come on against the Saints and created the equaliser all by himself. So just put the boy on the pitch Walter you tw.t and let the Rookery rise to his presence ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meh! View Post
    When Villa went down I was one wanting Adama Traore to come in. Very similar to Success in direct string running style taking on players and one of the few players who really stood out for Villa.

    Watching Traore yesterday tear through Manu's defence over and over again made me sad that we didn't go for him. Then again, who knows what type of player he would have turned into with 6 months of playing for us.
    Lol this forum never fails to amaze me.

    He was in the squad 14 times, started 0 times, came on as a sub 10 times, he never got more than 33 minutes on the pitch in any single game. In fact he played a total of 186 minutes of Premier League football for Aston Villa

    "Really stood out" did he? Hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying noises View Post
    It's hard to disagree that both Walter an Flores were/are bad coaches for us. Unfortunately they don't appear to be bad for anyone else ( apart from Inter). I really think the plyers are the problem.
    You're doing a disservice to QSF as he wasn't a bad coach, he achieved something no other manager had achieved. His problem was he adopted a continental attitude once safety was pretty much achieved. In Italy and Spain the mentality for the small to mid size clubs once safety is secured is to go into auto pilot til the end of the season.

    Unfortunately for QSF, he misjudged the Premier League, but to say he was a bad coach for us is unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squibba View Post
    Lol this forum never fails to amaze me.

    He was in the squad 14 times, started 0 times, came on as a sub 10 times, he never got more than 33 minutes on the pitch in any single game. In fact he played a total of 186 minutes of Premier League football for Aston Villa

    "Really stood out" did he? Hmmm.
    Do you not remember when he came on against us at Villa Park last season? He looked very dangerous and clearly had bags of potential.

    Remember most fans around me after the game asking why he didnt come on earlier.

    Doesnt matter how many minutes he got, he still stood out so no idea why that post 'amazed' you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beekayess View Post
    You wrecked your own bus
    You wrecked your own bus
    You stupid w**kers,
    You wrecked your own bus
    Been circulating around Twitter a bit:

    https://twitter.com/wwawaydays/statu...10249725157381

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squibba View Post
    Lol this forum never fails to amaze me.

    He was in the squad 14 times, started 0 times, came on as a sub 10 times, he never got more than 33 minutes on the pitch in any single game. In fact he played a total of 186 minutes of Premier League football for Aston Villa

    "Really stood out" did he? Hmmm.
    I agree with this Squibba, but whenever I have seen (admittantly, only about 6 times) him he excites the crowd, he looks like he will do something, and seems to get those around him - going!

    I'm at a loss, it is the same with ours, some coaches just do not like to see players that "excite", if they don't offer everything else, particularly defensively.

    I'd rather see an exciting player in the expectation that he will produce a great chance every other match, than the likes of Capoue who rarely produces.

    After all, a goal created is the same as a goal prevented.

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    He dribbles a LOT. Does he create a lot? Not so much. In my eyes a good dribbler is somebody who knows WHEN to dribble, not someone that does it every single time they get the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reids View Post


    He dribbles a LOT. Does he create a lot? Not so much. In my eyes a good dribbler is somebody who knows WHEN to dribble, not someone that does it every single time they get the ball.
    Too many colours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reids View Post


    He dribbles a LOT. Does he create a lot? Not so much. In my eyes a good dribbler is somebody who knows WHEN to dribble, not someone that does it every single time they get the ball.

    Top dribbler in Europe ahead of all those players. And he's only 21. Bags of potential on top of what he can already do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meh! View Post
    Top dribbler in Europe ahead of all those players. And he's only 21. Bags of potential on top of what he can already do.
    Is he the top dribbler though? The only stat he's top of out of those players is the number of take-ons attempted. Basically he gets the ball and instantly tries to dribble. That's like saying Andros Townsend is the best finisher in the PL because he shoots whenever he gets the ball.
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