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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost of Barry Endean View Post
    Makes you think, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost of Barry Endean View Post
    Here is a much cleverer man than you or I. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39218108
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    I'm not really interested in politics but I did chuckle at the hypocrisy of Junker in his post brexit speech , when he tried to take the moral high ground over U.K. on the issues of free trade and immigration .

    UK is arguably the most successful multi cultural country in the world . One of its citizens , Adam Smith, created the concept of free trade in 1776. The countries history is built on the concept of free trade whilst mainland Europe was ensconced in protectionism.

    Juncker was leader of his country for 19 years . How can that happen in a democratic system ? Nearly every democratic country has a limit on how long a leader can stay in power , usually two terms . It seems he's used to getting in his own way .

    I have mixed views on the EU , for and against . If the EU was anything like it aspired to and pretends that it is , I would be wholeheartedly for it . But it's not .

    I know I'm 6 months too late to the argument , but I avoided it at the time because it got so emotive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRossLittleRoss View Post
    I'm not really interested in politics but I did chuckle at the hypocrisy of Junker in his post brexit speech , when he tried to take the moral high ground over U.K. on the issues of free trade and immigration .

    UK is arguably the most successful multi cultural country in the world . One of its citizens , Adam Smith, created the concept of free trade in 1776. The countries history is built on the concept of free trade whilst mainland Europe was ensconced in protectionism.

    Juncker was leader of his country for 19 years . How can that happen in a democratic system ? Nearly every democratic country has a limit on how long a leader can stay in power , usually two terms . It seems he's used to getting in his own way .

    I have mixed views on the EU , for and against . If the EU was anything like it aspired to and pretends that it is , I would be wholeheartedly for it . But it's not .

    I know I'm 6 months too late to the argument , but I avoided it at the time because it got so emotive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRossLittleRoss View Post
    I'm not really interested in politics but I did chuckle at the hypocrisy of Junker in his post brexit speech , when he tried to take the moral high ground over U.K. on the issues of free trade and immigration .

    UK is arguably the most successful multi cultural country in the world . One of its citizens , Adam Smith, created the concept of free trade in 1776. The countries history is built on the concept of free trade whilst mainland Europe was ensconced in protectionism.

    Juncker was leader of his country for 19 years . How can that happen in a democratic system ? Nearly every democratic country has a limit on how long a leader can stay in power , usually two terms . It seems he's used to getting in his own way .

    I have mixed views on the EU , for and against . If the EU was anything like it aspired to and pretends that it is , I would be wholeheartedly for it . But it's not .

    I know I'm 6 months too late to the argument , but I avoided it at the time because it got so emotive.
    We don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRossLittleRoss View Post
    I'm not really interested in politics but I did chuckle at the hypocrisy of Junker in his post brexit speech , when he tried to take the moral high ground over U.K. on the issues of free trade and immigration .

    UK is arguably the most successful multi cultural country in the world . One of its citizens , Adam Smith, created the concept of free trade in 1776. The countries history is built on the concept of free trade whilst mainland Europe was ensconced in protectionism.

    Juncker was leader of his country for 19 years . How can that happen in a democratic system ? Nearly every democratic country has a limit on how long a leader can stay in power , usually two terms . It seems he's used to getting in his own way .

    I have mixed views on the EU , for and against . If the EU was anything like it aspired to and pretends that it is , I would be wholeheartedly for it . But it's not .

    I know I'm 6 months too late to the argument , but I avoided it at the time because it got so emotive.
    its definitely​ built on getting a lot of trade, and other stuff, for free.
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    Teresa May has used Easter to say 'Blah blah, blur, blah, wurgh, blah, blah, blur, blah, Brexit, blur, blah, blah'.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7685486.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose View Post
    Teresa May has used Easter to say 'Blah blah, blur, blah, wurgh, blah, blah, blur, blah, Brexit, blur, blah, blah'.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7685486.html
    Indeed.

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    Listening to the radio this morning on the French elections, it turns out that Le Pen polled a less than massive 5% in Paris.

    As here, isn't it weird that those areas with the most immigrants, indeed those which have born the brunt of Islamic terrorism, have the least objection to immigrants.

    My theory: evolution. We metropolis dwellers have learned and adapted to living in multicultural communities and have learned how to take the benefits of this environment to enrich us socially, culturally and economically.

    Other poor souls are less advanced.
    Now I may be an idiot, but there is one thing I am not, Sir, and that, Sir, is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost of Barry Endean View Post
    Listening to the radio this morning on the French elections, it turns out that Le Pen polled a less than massive 5% in Paris.

    As here, isn't it weird that those areas with the most immigrants, indeed those which have born the brunt of Islamic terrorism, have the least objection to immigrants.

    My theory: evolution. We metropolis dwellers have learned and adapted to living in multicultural communities and have learned how to take the benefits of this environment to enrich us socially, culturally and economically.

    Other poor souls are less advanced.





    Though almost certainly less arrogant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost of Barry Endean View Post
    Listening to the radio this morning on the French elections, it turns out that Le Pen polled a less than massive 5% in Paris.

    As here, isn't it weird that those areas with the most immigrants, indeed those which have born the brunt of Islamic terrorism, have the least objection to immigrants.

    My theory: evolution. We metropolis dwellers have learned and adapted to living in multicultural communities and have learned how to take the benefits of this environment to enrich us socially, culturally and economically.

    Other poor souls are less advanced.
    That is certainty true. An alternative factor is that in capital cities immigrants often fill in the more manual jobs that are needed for a City to work effectively and are almost a different job pool. In other less prosperous parts of the country they are competing directly for the jobs of the locals. Different dynamic I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost of Barry Endean View Post
    Listening to the radio this morning on the French elections, it turns out that Le Pen polled a less than massive 5% in Paris.
    As here, isn't it weird that those areas with the most immigrants, indeed those which have born the brunt of Islamic terrorism, have the least objection to immigrants.
    Not sure you can completely draw that sweeping conclusion.
    The areas of highest immigration will also have the highest number of immigrant voters which will skew the figures. Unless you strip out voting by origin you'll never get clean data. Also how do you explain industrial areas in the north with high immigrant populations voting brexit? There is a certain amount of shutting the door after you coming into effect as well as manual labour wages being undercut.

    The majority of terrorism lately has been committed by radicalised UK home grown citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    Not sure you can completely draw that sweeping conclusion.
    The areas of highest immigration will also have the highest number of immigrant voters which will skew the figures. Unless you strip out voting by origin you'll never get clean data. Also how do you explain industrial areas in the north with high immigrant populations voting brexit? There is a certain amount of shutting the door after you coming into effect as well as manual labour wages being undercut.

    The majority of terrorism lately has been committed by radicalised UK home grown citizens.

    EU migrants couldn't vote though and there is quite strong evidence that a lot of ethnic minorities (certainly in Birmingham and where I live in Harrow) voted Leave either because of perceived unfairness/for easier access for their relatives/to pull up the drawbridge.
    Now I may be an idiot, but there is one thing I am not, Sir, and that, Sir, is an idiot.


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