OK Troy is going to be punished for what he did, for 30 seconds of madness, for which he has shown true remorse!!!
As a result he will be doing the time for committing the crime and that should be it!!!
Those of you who think he should also be sacked, should get off your moralistic high horses and give the guy a chance to redeem himself; he will have been punished so why should he be punished even more?
ZOLA POWERED
Always try to support our players but kicking someone in the head when theyre on the floor is inexcusable
A couple of inches in another direction and its a manslaughter trial
Fair do's, I've removed the parts they couldn't prove and kept the part they could. The kicking a defenseless man in the head while on the ground.
Because if that was you or me mate we'd be sacked from our jobs with immediate effect. But for some unknown reason footballers live under different rules to the rest of us.
Because we're short on strikers.Originally Posted by easthertshornet
Hysterically negative overreaction!
As long as he didn't kick the guy in the nuts and fought fair then I'll support him 100%
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Footballers can to a certain extent use some aggression on to the field of play and commit fouls and be penalised by the ref, by way of booking, sending off's and if its really bad receive further punishment from the F.A.
However if they were to kick a player in the head when they were lying on the ground, they would have the book thrown at them and be banned for quite a few games, and a court case would probably follow ala Duncan Ferguson.
In the civilised world we live in to do the same to another member of the public (no matter who you are) and no matter who they are, is totally unacceptable, don't say its 10 seconds, 10 minutes, or whatever of madness no person in their right mind would even think of committing such an act. Therefore Troy I'm sorry you were good last season, but you have let everyone down and your act on that night/early morning will remain with you forever. You will probably find a club to take you but it won't be ours!
Just one more thing Mr. Deeney. I'm sorry, I know you're really busy and I'll get right on out of your way. You told the officers at the time that you don't recall who broke the victim's jaw, yet it wasn't until the victim arrived at the hospital that it was realised that his jaw was broken. How did you know his jaw was broken already?
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I am sure there are many peopl on here, me included who have done something similar in the past and got in scraps (perhaps not to such as severe degree). To give him some credit, he did admit it (perhaps knowing that there was such good CCTV evidence, you never know) and now he like anyone of us would if caught, faced the punishment. If I got nicked for this, I would loose my job and never be allowed to work in my profession again, he is lucky in that he can continue his career in the future.
Personally, as already said, I believe he should be sacked but I also believe that once he has taken the punishment, he should be given another chance, especially as I believe this is his first offence. I would actually offer him the chance to come back at Watford once he has been released on proviso that he takes certain steps to make sure something like that does not happen again such as moving to the area away from his brother and so called mates (GT had a thing about players should live locally, didn't always keep them out of trouble though!). He would also have do have certain community work involved in his contract as well.
The reason is of course, they are assests worth hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions. Most of the rest of are not. Footballers are aware of this fact obviously & many feel invincible as a result. They will continue to do so as long as the likes of Marlon King can walk straight back into a high-earning contract after doing time for punching a woman in the face.
If you plead guilty (as the club knew he was going to) the court CANNOT find you not guilty. If the club wanted to maintain an image as a family club, why would we extend his contract when he had ADMITTED guilt. To maintain your argument, Sean (or Bazza) must be culpable in agreeing the extension of his contract in the full knowledge of the offence committed. The offence is the key element not the sentence.
Hmmm. I have to agree.
As much as I like Deeney as a player, and as a person to be fair, having heard him in interviews etc he seems very down to earth...kicking someone who is already on the floor is poor.
I think he knows this as well, hence his remorse.
I hope he comes back strong, whether it's for us or someone else.
Any one can make a mistake, for sure, but, as mentioned above, he could have killed the fella.
However the judge, David Tomlinson QC, said the four men had joined in a "gratuitous beating" of the students who were already outnumbered in the fight.
He singled out Troy and Brennan as the more serious offenders for attacking men who were on the ground and defenceless.
He said: "A particularly aggravating feature for a defendant is to kick someone when he is on the ground and a particularly aggravating feature for a defendant to kick someone in the head when that person appears to be barely conscious and quite plainly not capable of defending himself."
Sorry Troy, but that's good enough for me.
I may be an idiot, Sir, but one thing I am not, Sir, is an idiot.
I'm sure our (then?) owner would never condone wrongdoing.
Nope
Watford til I die!
Current watford face:
I'm amazed he kicked the bloke in the head and not a fresh air kick.
We have a justice system for a reason. It is similar to the Marlon King scenario, just that he wasn't at the club when the earlier crime was committed, so people overlooked it. He'll have done his time, at least 5 months with good behaviour, which is the punishment a professional judge has decided to give him, and he has the entire public knowing his drunken mistake, admittedly a rather huge one. A judge seems to think that that's punishment enough, so I'm not quite sure why many others seem to think they know so much better. While I don't applaud his behaviour, and won't see him in quite the same light, him being one of my favourite players this year, I wouldn't be disgusted to see him in a Watford shirt again. He'll have been adequately punished, and I don't see too much harm in giving him a second chance. If he were to prove problematic again, then by all means, let him go, but we have a justice system for a reason, to dole out punishment for crime, and I'd be happy to see him given a chance to get his life back on track at Watford.
The guy was lying helpless, it was a tap-in
I'm bang on the fence with this. I've been in the odd pub scrap over the years - never gone looking for aggro I might add, but ended up in it once or twice - and whilst I am no angel, I have always lived by the rule that you fight with fists only and never kick a man on the floor.
If the club were to get shot then I wouldn't disagree, however I think they will stand by him and equally I wouldn't have a problem with that either. As far as we know it is his first time in trouble for this kind of thing. The difference between him and Kingy is that the first time you do something bad it is a mistake, but after the second, third etc, it isn't a mistake.
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