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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikkomas View Post
    "Massively rich owners"?

    You do know that Pozzo is recognized as one of the tightest businessman in world football?
    He moves only for $$; buy low sell high

    As a youngster you know that in Udine the pressure is not high (compare to other big city teams) you earn a correct salary (low for italian standards) but in normally 3 season time (if you're good) you can have your chance to join a big spending club

    So be aware that a lot of players will change shirts and most of all don't get too attached to them (you'll see them flying away soon)

    But at the end I can say that personally I'm super happy with the management; results are arriving, some players decided to stay in Udine (Di Natale, Pinzi, Domizzi experienced player that just want to finish their career in a family run team without much pressure), the safe is full of money and our scouting system is world class

    Negatives are that communication with the supporter is most of the times poor (they have to cover all their maneuvers) and as soon as you think you have a star in your team he will join the likes of Juve, Milan, Inter, Napoli or Rome (I wish we were selling abroad our old heroes)

    I think that for Watford they will have a different approach; you look more solid as a team and you have a good talent school.
    I don't think you'll join the "calciomercato" roller coaster like Udinese but he will try to establish a solid group of experienced players (4/5) to give a base to the youngsters to have an impact in the Championship

    If all goes well you'll just need to replace 2/3 of the young players year in year out (keeping in mind that if you need Udinese can loan some raw talent to support the system)
    Well put! I fully agree...
    I can only say that I (a dutch guy living close to Udine) really enjoy a small tema like Udinese that thanks to an excellent scouting network gets outstanding results. I really think also Watford can benefit from this. Our only worry might be that the Pozzos, having different clubs, don't succeed to fully commit to any of them.

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    My dear colleagues I don't think any of us here at this end are expecting a huge influx of funds.

    If Zola is appointed manager he may ask for one or two players and that's about it. Any other loanees will inevitably be brought over from Udinese with the names you have mentioned like Ekstrand for example.

    All we are happy for is that any remaining debt is settled and that the academy gets it's top classification which means EPL clubs cannot steal our kids for less than they do now. Arsenal, Tottenham (they took one player last season for nothing), Manchester City have all been trying to take some of our academy players recently because they are aware of how good our Academy is.

    In time to get the East Stand rebuilt and mount a playoff campaign say over the next two seasons. We are pretty realistic and down to earth fans here and we have seen the mess many other clubs like Portsmouth and now Birmingham have got themselves into.

    Which is why we have been very disappointed that when Graham Taylor left the club in 2000 as manager , Vialli managed to take us from having an £11M surplus into deficit which we have been struggling to overcome since.

    We are quite used not getting attached to players either. We have made extensive use of the loan system bearing in mind our finances, to make loan signings from the EPL and our managers have had a pretty good track record in this department.

    Players like Cleverley for instance. And we know as soon as we get a decent player in or produce one they will disappear. An example would be Danny Graham now at Swansea. Bought him for a relatively small amount of money developed him and then sold him on. This has been the model for us now for a while.

    If we buy players it is through scouring the divisions below us and taking on players who have been overlooked or for one reason or another not managed to fulfil their earlier potential.

    I'm pleased someone like Pozzo.snr is taking over with his track record in business and football club management. There are far too many clubs run in an improper fashion without regards to finances and keeping them on a stable footing.

    I don't think this acquisition will take the Pozzo's focus away from Udinese particularly in light of the upcoming CL campaign but as they see it will be a long term benefit to all the clubs they have under their umbrella and developing the youth they acquire through their extensive scouting network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    My dear colleagues I don't think any of us here at this end are expecting a huge influx of funds.

    If Zola is appointed manager he may ask for one or two players and that's about it. Any other loanees will inevitably be brought over from Udinese with the names you have mentioned like Ekstrand for example.

    All we are happy for is that any remaining debt is settled and that the academy gets it's top classification which means EPL clubs cannot steal our kids for less than they do now. Arsenal, Tottenham (they took one player last season for nothing), Manchester City have all been trying to take some of our academy players recently because they are aware of how good our Academy is.

    In time to get the East Stand rebuilt and mount a playoff campaign say over the next two seasons. We are pretty realistic and down to earth fans here and we have seen the mess many other clubs like Portsmouth and now Birmingham have got themselves into.

    Which is why we have been very disappointed that when Graham Taylor left the club in 2000 as manager , Vialli managed to take us from having an £11M surplus into deficit which we have been struggling to overcome since.

    We are quite used not getting attached to players either. We have made extensive use of the loan system bearing in mind our finances, to make loan signings from the EPL and our managers have had a pretty good track record in this department.

    Players like Cleverley for instance. And we know as soon as we get a decent player in or produce one they will disappear. An example would be Danny Graham now at Swansea. Bought him for a relatively small amount of money developed him and then sold him on. This has been the model for us now for a while.

    If we buy players it is through scouring the divisions below us and taking on players who have been overlooked or for one reason or another not managed to fulfil their earlier potential.

    I'm pleased someone like Pozzo.snr is taking over with his track record in business and football club management. There are far too many clubs run in an improper fashion without regards to finances and keeping them on a stable footing.

    I don't think this acquisition will take the Pozzo's focus away from Udinese particularly in light of the upcoming CL campaign but as they see it will be a long term benefit to all the clubs they have under their umbrella and developing the youth they acquire through their extensive scouting network.
    Very sensible comment.
    I agree completely with your last sentence.
    We don't know Pozzo's plans, we can only deduce them from his acts, and by now, all I can see for what is happening is a positive synergic alliance, which could bring benefits to all the clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udinese View Post
    Very sensible comment.
    I agree completely with your last sentence.
    We don't know Pozzo's plans, we can only deduce them from his acts, and by now, all I can see for what is happening is a positive synergic alliance, which could bring benefits to all the clubs.
    I basically agree with smudgers comments, but I think that over time should Watford become an established Premier League club, it is possible that your concerns may have some foundation?

    Hopefully Pozzo's focus will be equal for all three clubs, but as the Premier League is financially more lucrative than either Serie A or La Liga, he might be tempted to focus more on Watford for greater financial gain?

    However, lets hope that he will not favour one club over the others, and remain focussed equally on all his family!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Voice of Reason View Post
    I basically agree with smudgers comments, but I think that over time should Watford become an established Premier League club, it is possible that your concerns may have some foundation?

    Hopefully Pozzo's focus will be equal for all three clubs, but as the Premier League is financially more lucrative than either Serie A or La Liga, he might be tempted to focus more on Watford for greater financial gain?

    However, lets hope that he will not favour one club over the others, and remain focussed equally on all his family!!!
    true, there is this possibility, but it will take time before we reach that point, and by that time many things might have changed... he might also have extended is colonies in other countries...

    I can speak only for what we have experienced until now, both Udinese and Granada received an equal distribution of the resorses according to the different aims. Realtively speaking the process in this way could become slower, but in reality it turn out to be quicker than we thought for both of us. But even if it would become slower, it would still mean growth for all of us.

    Back to your question, Premier League might be more lucrative now, we do not know what could happen in the next few years, with many things are going on, like financial fairplay looming over european teams, big clubs threatening an european superleague and so on. Actual lucrative appeal could not be the same any more in few yaear's time. As far as I managed to understand Pozzo in 25 years I doubt his aim is the incomes deriving from one league or the other (too unpredictable) his system is based on the revenues deriving from buying cheap, increase value and reselling with a substantial capital gain. The "incerase value" phase is a key phase for his system, therefore Udinese, Granada, Watford are essential, and the more they are stable finantially the more expensive he can sell, the more these teams are stabilized in their respective Peremier Leagues, the more they consolidate themselves in top positions the more value the players gain, and also the window for potential buyers becomes wider. That's his business, which is extremely clever because is based on a balance which brings benefits to everybody, although the ultimate target might not be to win championship or the CL. Udinese supporters know that very well and it is sometimes reason for debate, but Pozzo knows very well that winning bring prestige and maybe some more money, but needs investments which not necessary can bring results, while his chicken farm is a garantee of regular capital gain.


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