World Cup Squads

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by wfc4ever, May 15, 2018 at 8:23 PM.

  1. wingco

    wingco Academy Graduate

    Honestly I'm a bit baffled about how Shelvey has suddenly turned into Pirlo.

    The bloke is 26, and he spent last season in the Championship. Just because he likes to drift around and pump out 60 yard balls, doesn't mean he's anywhere near the ability of Henderson and Dier
     
  2. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Well I guess we'll just have to differ then. My point really is that we always seem to have the same mentality. Pick a team to grind something out. And then don't. If we had Shelvey on board then we would at least have another option even if he didn't start. What 'other option' do we now have? As in 'something completely different'.

    OK. I have a bit of a vested interest here. I once played the game to a half-decent level around 40 years ago. And had a trial for a club currently in the Prem. although I won't say which one on the grounds you might then hate me.

    And I played No.10. And I wasn't very good at 'tracking back'. In fact, I don't think that 'tracking back' had been invented back then.
     
  3. Keighley

    Keighley Reservist

    It was Everton, wasn’t it. You ****. :D

    Or Muff, perhaps. You ******. :cool:

    Or Palarse? You had an intimate knowledge of the streets surrounding the ground, I recall.
     
  4. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    One of those three is correct!
     
  5. wingco

    wingco Academy Graduate

    Loftus-Cheek? The Palace fans seem to think he's a top player. I think he'll certainly give us something different from that position.

    People seem to dismiss Henderson and Dier like they are crap. They are the first name on the teamsheet for two managers that play open, expansive football. Both of them know how to operate in teams like that, and I feel that's why Southgate wants them in the side.

    Henderson especially, I feel like people are unwilling to accept he's now a quality player after years of abuse
     
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  6. Keighley

    Keighley Reservist

    Aha!
     
  7. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Quite.
     
  8. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    I've never said that Dier or Henderson are crap. But they don't have 'Shelvey vision'. Remember, Shelvey's the 'dark Lord personified' in real flesh. We need players like Dier and Henderson. But we've already got them in, well, Dier and Henderson. But Loftus-cheek over Shelvey? Different position maybe but ffs!
     
  9. wingco

    wingco Academy Graduate

    Have you seen Loftus-Cheek play? There's a reason why he's been picked ahead of Shelvey and Wilshere
     
  10. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Indeed I have. A decent dribbler. A decent pass negates the need for dribbling.
     
  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    Loftus-Cheek is a better attacking threat than Shelvey but they won’t be being looked at as similar options had they both gone. RLC will be seen as the understudy to whoever the No.10 is (Alli) probably.

    I do tend to agree with Kelso loosely that there should be someone more creative next to Henderson or Dier, rather than the two of them together. I really do think it would have been Chalobah and his recovery window was so cruel. Another few weeks and I think he may have snuck in. We all know what Hughes can do too.

    I hate the bloke but Wilshere and Shelvey have far more to offer than Lewis Cook and Jake Livermore.
     
  12. King Dev

    King Dev Squad Player

    I just don't think Hughes is good enough just yet. He can be extremely sloppy in possession.
     
  13. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

  14. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Reservist

    Murray Abraham (F) would bring gravitas.
     
  15. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Reservist

    If it’s not Muff, can you PM your autograph?
     
  16. Unhappy bunny

    Unhappy bunny Squad Player

    Have you no shame?
     
  17. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    Wilshere is a tool. He has done nothing this season or last to show that he’s worth more to the squad than anyone who is actually in it and his statement alludes to the fact that someone on the plane to Russia will be sitting in his seat.

    Shows the chatacter of the guy thus proving Southgate’s point in not taking him. The guy is hardly Gazza.
     
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  18. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason The One and Only

    According to reports on SSN Jack Wiltshire is claiming he is fit and ready and SHOULD be in the England squad.

    Who the **** does he think he is, the arrogant git!!!
     
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  19. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    If you've watched Arsenal this season, he's been pretty good. Much better than he has been in previous years.

    His reputation for being a grade a **** and his hilarious rise and fall aside, through form this season he should definitely be ahead of Livermore, Delph and Cook.
     
  20. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    I don’t know enough about Cook but I can agree about Livermore. However, your reasoning for Wilshere being in there applies to Delph - form has been good and Guardiola obviously rates him as he’s played a lot. But I concede that Wilshere offers more creatively. Sadly his attitude and injury record means he’s never going to be suitable for a tournament where games come reasonably thick and fast.

    He has undoubted pro’s but they are outweighed by the con’s.
     
  21. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    We can't actually take a midfielder who passes forward.
    I laughed then sighed and thought this is probably the most uninspiring England squads I've seen ever.
    Does Southgate intend on playing it long with the unhealthy looking Pickford between the sticks?
    So on that note we will do well and make a mockery of my limited football knowledge.
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Buzin 4 vis 1

    Englun gon win vis thyme!

    Sarfgate nos wot his doin
     
  23. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    It isn't Muff. Autograph?
     
  24. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Reservist

    Thank goodness for that!

    The pleasure of your company is enough.
     
  25. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Thank you. You now have a choice of two.
     
  26. Keighley

    Keighley Reservist

    We know Kelso is a keen birdwatcher but I suspect that, had his life followed a different path, he would have developed a pathological dislike of Seagulls. And they of him.
     
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  27. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Barking up the wrong tree. Not many gulls in Stanley Park or Croydon. Well actually there are quite a few now. But there were a whole lot less then.
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2018 at 5:33 PM
  28. Keighley

    Keighley Reservist

    Mmm, I’m not sure that answer disproves my guess but I’ll let someone else have a crack.

    This is a bit like 3-2-1 with Ted Rogers (RIP) and Dusty Bin. I expect The Grumbleweeds to turn up soon. Wonder if Mollyboo has a view of their musical stature?
     
  29. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    There's only a choice of two now. Whichever you go for the answer will then be revealed.
     
  30. Keighley

    Keighley Reservist

    Well, I thought I had done, but perhaps too subtly... a club whose (supposed) rivals are the Seagulls...

    Sarf London’s finest.
     
  31. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Oh I see now. Silly me. Yep. Excellent call.
     
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  32. Keighley

    Keighley Reservist

    Any Malcolm Allison stories?
     
  33. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Details can be provided if anyone gives a toss.
     
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  34. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Marginally pre-Allison
     
  35. Keighley

    Keighley Reservist

    Had to look that manager up. Bert Head. Means nothing to me, though he was in charge for 328 games.

    Still, I guess if you were only on trial you didn’t have much to do with the Head man?
     

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