Will we finish top 10?

Ah ok. Was only looking at bet365 as only have an account with them and WH.

Odds on us winning the first 3 games is about 40/1. Worth a couple of quid.

 

If you look at the teams that aren't Top 7, Green is teams we have a stronger squad than, orange is similar and red is teams who definitely have stronger squads than us.

Bournemouth
Brighton
Burnley
Crystal Palace
Huddersfield
Leicester
Newcastle
Southampton
Stoke
Swansea
West Brom
West Ham

Top 10 should be an aim next year for sure.

 

There were 6 points difference between 8th and 17th last season. The 3 teams coming up are better than the 3 teams going down. Transfer windows will be all important and hopefully so will our change in manager. So far Silva and Hughes is a very good start and if we sign some of the other players linked we will look much stronger. There is an outside chance we can finish in the top 10, but I would say aim for our best season in the Premier League. So I'll be extremely happy with either 46 points or 12th position

 

To answer the question. No. Certainly not without some very significant strengthening. I can't see where the goals will come from next season without a quality addition upfront. Troy only scored penalties. Our other "attacking" options like Success and Pereyra have never been goal getters. Quality proven strikers are expensive. Another Okaka won't help !

 

Colour blindness makes this impossible to read!!!

 

Sorry Squibba.

Is this based on figures from somewhere or is it opinion?

Just that if it is based on data, it is likely to change quite dramatically, through transfer activity, before any balls get kicked.

 

TBF it's not an unreasonable assessment

 

Unless we bring in a top striker and strengthen our defence, sadly I think not

 

No.

 

What are our odds for the title or top 4?

 

For the title. 1500/1 Bet 365, Sky Bet, Betfred, and some other slightly less well known ones.
For top 4. 250/1 Sky Bet.

 

The key question is how much of a difference the new coach will make. What percentage of our poor play last season was down to Mazzari and what was down to the players? It's just too complex for me to work out. I strongly suspect getting rid of Mazzari was the best single thing we could have done. I would have thought Deeney is still a good player but he surely has to have someone decent playing alongside him. He doesn't get injured often, but one bad one and we're effectively without a premiership-quality striker. That could be very bad news. Almost no players at this level of modern football are slow runners, but I would love to see us get an attacker with genuine pace - that would open up more possibilities to our so-far ponderous attacks. Not only would it improve our goal-scoring chances it would be more exciting to watch. I never again want to see such boring football as the stuff we played last year ( yes, there were a few exceptions to that, but not many).

 

500k. Get in there!

 

If we'd got seven more points last season we'd have finished eighth. So, the question boils down to - do you think Silva and other additions over the next six weeks and in January will be able to deliver another seven plus points? I'd say yes.

On targets, I'd much prefer us to have a points target rather than a place one. Fifty points would be a realistic one. Only five better than our first season back in the Prem. (ignoring last season's 'hiccup'). An 'incremental improvement'. And that should give us every chance of finishing tenth or better irrespective of any particular concertinaring of mid-table finishes last season.

 

Last seasons top 7 will be this seasons top7 and that leaves the rest of us in our own league fighting for survival. I believe we will be better than 3 teams at the very least, certainly capable of finishing top 10 but if we get distracted with a good cup run we might find ourselves in bottom half.


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Another struggling year with probably finishing about 15th or 16th.

 

Even without that it's hard to read against the default background!

 

I don't see it, hopefully another year consolidating our status

 

Unless Gino gets his cheque book out, we're going down

 

No you aren't.

 

Agreed. Another few years of consolidating and we can look above 17th.

 

Avoiding relegation would be a bonus. That is all we can hope for.
I do not feel we can attract any decent player. The 'Mercenaries' in the Premiership applies to a lot of clubs, but it a title most attached to Watford.
Let's see what happens in 2017/18 season.
Bon chance

 

I think we'll have a much better season than all the Debbie Downers on this thread

 

Top ten? I've got a fiver on us winning the league mate.

 

I have £5 on winning league and £5 on top four. For ***** and giggles and because Leicester. Both with Williams Hill or Paddypower i think. Free bets FTW.

 

No but we will be ok for 11th due to it being a poor league. How they market Stoke v Huddersfield/Burnley/Watford/Palace/Bournemouth as the best league in the world is beyond any PR guru

 

If you're giving away money then send some this way.

 

Cant see us finishing top 10, not unless we spend big. I like that we are trying to buy younger players and appear to be building a team rather than a bunch of individuals.
the question is will we do better than last year? I think we will, but we have to otherwise we will go down. It is clear from the players body language that they hated Wally, now he is gone they have no excuses. Silva seems a decent bloke who will put his arm round the players when needed and kick them up the behind again when needed.
Like everyone we are all excited and why not. But this is a hard league and you get punished for mistakes. At the moment I would bite someones arm off for a 14/15 place finish with a decent cup run. Whilst building for the future.
There are some well run clubs in the league and there isnt a Villa/Sunderland type club either. In the end the 3 promoted sides, Palace, Burnley, Muff, us, Swansea and I think Southampton will all be in the bottom half.

 

I'll give some of the winnings.

 

I think Stoke will finish below many of those teams unless they pull off something unexpected in the window.