[CONFIRMED] WE NEED A GOAL SCORER

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by The Voice of Reason, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. You can put 2 upfront, but if the opposition 5 midfielders outnumber and dominate our 4 then we end up not having the ball anyway. A well sorted 4231 will normally come out on top of a 442.

    We could play a 4411 as a compromise, or even play Deeney as a 10 in 4231, but that just wastes better #10s in Hughes or Pereyra.

    Fix the problem at source.
     
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  2. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    There’s quite a lot in there that I don’t think will happen. As stated, I expect Success to be brought back in and given an ultimatum of now or never. We can’t keep shipping out a £13m on loan - he’s got talent and he needs a manager to coax it out of him. That’s what I’d be looking to do now. I really don’t expect anyone will pay us what we want for Richarlison given his potential - Gino will hold onto him knowing this I expect. 1 more year and then he’ll be off. Deulofeu is 50/50. I think he enjoys it here from the looks of social media - I think it will come down to just how much he believes he can play for Spain - as he will be further away if he joins us rather than a Sevilla or such. But it’s not guaranteed by any means that he won’t sign.

    And we can dream of Cucho. But the chances of him getting a work-permit are slim. I’d like to think we would try though.
     
  3. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    Why are you not our manager?? It's so f*****g obvious what needs changing isn't it!
     
  4. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    We disagree. But I believe that's ok on a forum :)
     
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  5. Jimthehornet

    Jimthehornet Academy Graduate

    I couldn't agree more with that. I think Deeney is a great footballer and could do a lot of good still, but he needs a partner up front. I have no idea why neither Silva or Gracia will play two up top with Hughes/cleverly backing them up
     
  6. We need a goalscorer and this happened today...

    iggy.JPG

    Just sayin'.
     
  7. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Not only 4 goals for Ighalo, and although all of these are at a lower level, no less than 4 other former WFC players and 1 of our out on loan players have scored for their respective clubs today -

    Jakubiak our out on loan player 1 for his team; Theo Robinson x 2 goals for Southend; John Joe 'O Neil 1 for Northampton; Forsteiri 1 for Sheff W and Gavin Massey 1 for his team.

    That's 10 goals so far, yet none of our current players seem capable of scoring :mad:
     
  8. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Let's forget about the Jakubiak goal as he is still a WFC player, the final score: -

    Current WFC Players 0 v 13 Ex WFC Players (Ighalo 4, Theo Robinson 3, Forestieri 2, Assombalonga, Lansbury, JJ O'Niel, Gavin Massey)
     
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  9. I suppose you could add Craig Beattie to that - he scored for Edinburgh City.
     
  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'm not convinced this is the fairest fight ever.
     
  11. oxhey67

    oxhey67 Squad Player

    JJ O'Toole scored as well ;)
     
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  12. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Whoops! I of course meant him, not O'Neil :oops:
     
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  13. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    A narrow 3-2 win for Spellcheck Town over WTF United.
     
  14. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I've just emailed the club telling them to re-sign John-Joe O'Toole and play him upfront next game. That was the point of this exchange, right?
     
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  15. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I don’t really agree and I think your view is half our problem. You are talking about us playing a formation to suit the players we have up front, we've only looked better playing 4-4-2 because all the strikers we’ve had have suited this best. The same goes for now with the strikers we have at our disposable.

    Playing 4-4-2 is just making the best of a bad situation, it’s accomdating players who aren’t up to the task in every other formation we might choose to play. We would be just as good but hopefully better if we had a decent lone striker and binned of our current crop who can only play half decent in a 4-4-2. There is a very good reason why the vast majority of the leave no longer play that formation.

    Obviously the tricky part is finding a good 12-15 goal a season lone striker, but we have 5-6 midfielders who are infinitely better footballers than Deeney, Grey and Okaka are. Better to have an extra one of those on the pitch and one GOOD striker, than trying to make a silk purse out of sows ear with our existing sub standard strikers if you ask me.
     
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  16. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    I know it's a bit simplistic but if you have a lone striker, the opposition defenders know where the ball is headed so therefore know who to mark. Two strikers splits the options giving them a decision as to which one to mark, possibly freeing the other one up.
     
  17. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If you just play long balls then I think that’s true. If you’ve got three or four realtively creative midfielders and decent full backs that can deliver decent intelligent passes to each other then it shouldn’t be an issue. The lone striker is then just another player, but of the ball happens to fall to him in the box he’s got a better chance of tucking it away than the rest of the team.

    Bad example but every team who play spurs know half the battle is just trying to stop Harry Kane scoring, but they are very rarely able to.
     
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  18. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    The other half of the battle is trying to stop Son who has scored 19 this season
     
  19. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    ...because Man City have found it such a struggle to score goals this season playing with a lone striker every game...
     
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  20. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    Rubbish analogy mate, comparing our squad to Man City's is like comparing Champagne to Stella.
     
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  21. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I'm illustrating that a lone striker system has nothing to do whether a team is able to play offensively and score lots of goals or not. Wolves and Fulham are also scoring goals for fun in the Championship with lone striker systems.

    PS were I to bother furthering your irrelevant alcoholic beverage analogy, I'd point out that both Champagne and Stella can still easily get you hammered.
     
  22. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    As can not playing to your strikers strengths! :p
     
  23. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    Jay Rodriguez is a good shout, I’ve seen a few people mention him and I’d be happy with that move.

    I’d also considering getting Britt back if Boro don’t come up
     
  24. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    As you say, several have suggested this, but I haven't seen Jay Rodriguez do almost anything of note since that major injury he had at Southampton; definitely had a long term impact on the way he plays, and he hasn't exactly been pulling up trees at Bromington this season. Also he's not actually a straight-up, out-and-out striker, is he.
     
  25. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

  26. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

  27. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Do I not like...
     
  28. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Whilst I acknowledge that’s it’s an overused term, MoJo was vulpine in his proclivities.

    Very vulpine.
     
  29. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Vulpine in his proclivities is an overused term? God I've lived a sheltered life.
     
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  30. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    That Russian yabba dabba Zooby dooby doo guy looks like he would fit in with our squad to me. HAVE.
     
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  31. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    It's quiet. Too quiet.
     
  32. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Dzyuba? He gets paid a lot of money to play for Zenit thanks to the Russian premium/quotas. He's the reason they sold Rondon in the first place.
     
  33. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Since we stopped doing bants
    Coz of people having rants
    About threads gone off topic
    So some of us stopped it
    Now the threads are all lame
    Its just not the same
    It's missing threads about cheese
    Due to those hard to please
    Or about all the loans
    Coz of members who moaned
    Or about Deeneys weight
    Now the threads just ain't great
    So to those I implore
    You moaned now you bore
    You wanted it serious
    So we took out mysterious
    And abandoned high jinx
    Now it's threads that all sink
    Now it's boring as ****
    You bunch of soft ducks
     
  34. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Up there with I Wander Lonely As A Cloud
     
  35. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    That’s just the scorecard from the Blackpool game.

    Angella translates into Chinese as Long Tan.
     

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