Watford Fc 2-1 Newcastle United - 11/07/2020

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Smudger, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I'd have Zimmerman, Cantwell or Hernandez from Norwich.

    Ake from Muff (should never have let him go)

    Nobody from Villa.
  2. Brighton and Newcastle are lucky there have been several teams even worse than them
  3. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

    King, no chance.
    Lewis Cook has done zero.
    Fraser, no chance
    Wilson, he will stay, relegation or not
  4. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    It's a terrible indictment on our recruitment that Deeney has, apparently, been playing with a badly injured knee. Our manager would rather start an injured, useless Deeney than any of the options on the bench.

    When you consider the possibility of pushing Welbeck up front, that means Pedro, Pussetto, Gray, Pereyra all considered not fit for purpose. Ok pedro is one for the future, but the rest? We're in dire straits. Why is our squad packed with £50m worth of 'talent' that isn't good enough to come in when our striker is crocked?
  5. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    I wouldn't go that far - you would not want either Masina or Dawson in the starting line-up? Even Kiko could be good if he can get his confidence issues sorted.
  6. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist


  7. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Will he? He's a relatively recent England international, if he harbours any hopes of staying in the international picture he can't be seen playing in the Championship, plus Bournemouth would need to sell as many of their assets as possible
  8. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Definitely need someone at RB, it's time to stick a fork in Janmaat. I like Kiko, he has his bad games like Tuesday, but is excellent going forward (works very well with Sarr) and has his moments defensively, I'd bring in a fresh face and let them battle it out. As for CB, it's a weird one, none of our current CBs are horrendous, but they're all fairly average Premier League defenders. I say get in one or two new faces, and say to them all that their place in the first team is up for grabs. Holebas for example was kind of going through the motions when he only had Zeegelaar to contend with, but improved when Masina came in, even if Masina himself wasn't a regular last season
  9. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    In fairness to the club, he wanted to go somewhere else; I think the story was that he wanted to play centrally in defence or in the midfield rather than at left-back, back when our centre-back options appeared much more solid than they do now
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  10. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

    Wilson has been really poor. He is not interested.
    Bournemouth are in a financial mess.
  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Probably score a hat trick tomorrow now but he hasn't scored for ages ..

    I wonder if Man U will still be in for King?

    The 2 fullbacks at Norwich seem to attract interest - think Palace made a bid or two last summer for Lewis.

    Ofcouse like with Villa and Grealish these clubs probably won't get the fees they were hoping for now.
  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

  13. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm First Year Pro

    I think he saw himself as a CM. Howe bull$h1t him, said he could play CM, played him there for a couple of games then switched him to CB.
  14. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm First Year Pro

    I view the result as a genuine miracle. I have no idea how we won that game. Amazed we got the 2nd penalty. It's hard to believe that just happened. But it did, so very grateful for that.
  15. cpm82

    cpm82 Academy Graduate

    I preferred watching them in the Championship to be honest.
  16. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    I'd still take even the Mazzarri season and this one over any of the seasons we didn't win promotion, with the exception of 2002/03 and 2010/11.
  17. a19tgg

    a19tgg Reservist

    The championship can be just as miserable as the PL. you’ve obviously got more chance of having a good season and when you’re on form it’s great. But when you’re knocking about in mid table or around the relegation zone it’s more depressing than being in the PL, with far worse players and a terrible standard of football which you also have to endure twice a week.
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  18. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    What about Norwich's wing-backs? Aaron's and Lewis? Maybe too expensive, but definitely an area we need to strengthen.
  19. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Left back is surely more of a priority than right-back? An injury prone Janmaat is more useful than Holebas these days!
  20. nascot

    nascot First Team

    Alright Pele calm down.
  21. Klein Lust

    Klein Lust Academy Graduate

    Da iawn rwan boi
  22. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    In Pussetto's defence, he isn't a left winger. He's played right wing, behind the striker or as a striker. But I still agree with your general point.
  23. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Norwich have had a terrible defence this season, so remarkable how highly rated these two and Godfrey seem to be.

    However so did Hull and that Robertson turned out to be decent.
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  24. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Terrible standard of football...compared to the endless beauty we’ve seen at the Vic this season?!
  25. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Well the last two times after being relegated we've stormed the league for a whille then totally gone to pot haven't we ..
  26. Jlappy

    Jlappy Academy Graduate

    2nd half we were so much better, surely coincided with a lack of aimless long balls. Deeney in his form and playing with an injury surely questions need to be asked why he is starting every game. Also shout out to Kiko thought he was much better in the 2nd half and got forward a lot more which gave Sarr a bit more licenses and a different threat in an attacking sense.
  27. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Except they look like scoring when they aren't handed penalties...
  28. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Welbeck mm's from scoring, Deeney golden opportunity, Welbeck deflected over and concerted pressure in the 2nd half particularly? We've by no means been great but the last 2 games have seen a response. Just wish we saw this a few games earlier.
  29. The Fish

    The Fish Academy Graduate

    Well, that was predictably ****. We were all right in the first half, and paid for not making our dominance tell. But second half you came out and we didn't bother. Conceding our first penalty of the season for a daft tackle was bad enough, but two? Horrendous.

    Bruce wants shooting for starting Schar in midfield. I get that he wanted his physicality, but to be honest we'd have been better off with 5 at the back where he can be effective. Especially when we have natural midfielders available on the bench. (Even moreso when one of those natural midfielders is Matty Longstaff - a promising young midfielder whose contract is coming to an end and who doesn't believe Newcastle will give him the game time he needs...)

    Clear which team was playing for something.

    Hopefully I'll be back next season to give you beer, bed and burger tips for your away day to Newcastle.

    Good luck to you and good luck to Bournemouth. If your survivals mean Villa and West Ham go away, then happy days all round, right?
  30. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    I'm not so sure about shooting Bruce. He's kept you up and this season I think that is really good, considering I think quite a few of your squad are poor by Premier League standards.
  31. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    You re blowing in the wind if you think Zimmmerman is coming to Watford .

    But you never know as the times they are changing .
  32. The Fish

    The Fish Academy Graduate

    Think we've stayed up regardless of his tactical acumen. Our 'keeper has made more saves than anyone else, only Villa and Norwich have conceded more shots. We're terrible up front. Make no mistake, we're very lucky not to be in the bottom 3.

    We've a decent PL squad; ASM, Almiron are top half standard. Ritchie, Shelvey, Hayden, Longstaffs all decent PL level. In Lascelles, Fernandez, Lejeune, Schar & Clark we've 5 PL defenders of varying quality. Finally, Dubravka is a top half 'keeper.

    But Bruce plays Joelinton as a targetman when he's not. He fields ASM and Almiron too deep to be impactful. He combines our midfielders in bizarre setups (either no creativity, or no mobility). Our defence last season was a very good unit, this season they look like they've never met. Bruce is not a PL manager, but he's being rescued by his 'keeper and Saint Maximin.
  33. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Obviously I must bow to your superior knowledge about your team. But, from the outside, Rafa having gone and your early season dreadful displays and a general apparent consensus of low expectation of Steve Bruce, it looked like you were early relegation candidates. & that hasn't happened.
  34. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Outside of the big 6 and arguably Wolves and Everton most squads in the PL are much of a muchness, a fully fit and match ready squad with a bit of confidence and an average squad will do OK, then on the other hand a very similar squad with poor fitness and low confidence will continue to get poor results. In terms of ability within squads I don't see much difference between us, Newcastle, West Ham, Burnley, etc., our season is the way it is due to poor preparation for the beginning of the season and poor decision to bring back QSF.
  35. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Hey, remember when everyone thought that Wolves were just going to be selling all their best players at the first chance and they were just a glorified shop window for a dodgy Portuguese agent?

    Good times.

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