Watford FC 1-1 Tottenham Hotspurs - 02/12/2017

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Cthulhu, Nov 30, 2017.

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Who will win in the football between Watford and Spurs?

Poll closed Dec 7, 2017.
  1. Watford

    29 vote(s)
    30.2%
  2. Spurs

    43 vote(s)
    44.8%
  3. third option

    24 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Right near the end Carrillo looped a cross straight into their keepers arms with three of our players in front of goal, surely that was crying out for a decent along the ground cross similar to the one they scored with! I thought his crossing was poor yesterday!
     
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  2. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Nevermind Shoutbox-gate, the big news yesterday was that Deeney is a full on conservative voter:
     

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  3. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    People are happy because we are a huge upgrade on what we have been the last two seasons, we are going for every match which is so refreshingly!

    To expect us to always come out on top is a little too ambitious and sometimes luck goes against you, (Gomez at Everton, pen shout yesterday) if we finished 8th that would be amazing, because it would mean we didn't blow up in the second half of the season like we have done in the last two years! I'm happy where we are!
     
  4. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    I don't know what bubble most Spurs fans live in thinking they can come to Vicarage Road and walk away with three points. It should have been the other way around yesterday,

    We are playing some of the best football in a long while we have seen at the club with players of immense promise, skill and flair. Despite that I personally feel slightly disappointed. Disappointed that we are not higher up in the league table. We have thrown points away left, right and centre usually from some inexplicable, inexcusable defensive blunders. After having Richarlison's penalty award (not a penalty for me) turned down we lacked focus and shape allowing them to waltz in for the equalizer.

    Our midfield marshalled by the world class Doucoure (one can simply not write enough about him in praise of his abilities) is our strong suit and that despite the injuries to Pereyra, Chalobah and now Hughes. What we need to focus on is finding a scoring striker. I am sure Silva is trying to source one. Linked with Slimani for obvious reasons to replace the likely outgoing Okaka. Grey and Deeney have not done enough and it is fortunate that we have had goals come in from midfield, out wide and defence aplenty. Zarate would also bolster these options after his rehab stint in the Gulf.

    Defensively we have shipped too many. One could look to the lack of settled partnerships which has not been a help but we also lack focus at the back at times. We have conceded some hilariously poor goals that have cost valuable points and caused a loss of momentum in key games. It is no wonder Silva is being looked at with envious eyes. I sincerely hope he stays for longer than a season given that we have some wonderful talents developing here and in Spain and others being scouted as we speak and I honestly think our league position is unflattering to us. That is given we have outplayed Chelsea, Tottenham and played with swagger and verve against Manchester United making them look pretty ordinary for large parts of that match. We only have been taken apart by one team. Manchester City and even then a couple of goals were defensive howlers and we missed a couple of chances to score including as usual the official bottling it in favour of the so called larger club.

    People may say this is little old Watford when it isn't anymore. Our target certainly is not to get carried away and be bored if we do finish midtable with regularity. Witness the howls of frustration at the Valley and in Wigan. The first target should be avoiding relegation. But as a club we should be striving to be the best we can on and off the pitch. Every player should be looking to improve, all the staff behind the scenes and the infrastructure.

    So it was under GT and look at what we achieved. Granted circumstances today are more dominated than by finance. And it is unlikely that we could hold onto Silva for more than a couple of seasons and we must not get too attached to Doucoure, Richarlison, Femenia and the like but if you don't aim high you will never get anywhere.
     
  5. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    I'm happy with our status, but couldn't come away from yesterday's game thinking "good point" as I feel we should have won it at the death. Anger at the ref as opposed to any player or manager but anger and frustration is the feeling, not delight or happiness at the point.
     
  6. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Think you aren't reading what people have said. Most, me included, have said happy to take a point before the game but feel like it's two points dropped not one gained.
     
  7. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Am I happy with a point? No, I'd much rather we had 3, but we have to make our own luck. You can never rely on referees to give you things, even obvious ones, because it rarely happens.

    I personally think we would have lost had Sanchez not been shown a red card. With 11 v 11, I felt it was only a matter of time before Spurs eventually would have taken control. That is just my perception of course.

    You can argue that the referee already gave us a big advantage, so it's highly unlikely he would give Watford another big decision. That's just the way football is.

    The Everton game was a big throw away. You cannot see that game in any other light, but it was down to mitigating circumstances. We were coasting until the Gomes injury, and we could only put Harry Hornet in goal, so it's bound to have a big impact on the match. We just have to hope Gomes stays injury free or else that will happen again in future games.

    You cannot overlook the points we picked up against Swansea, Arsenal, Liverpool and West Brom, as they were very late goals which has given us 6 extra points.

    I see Watford as an excellent away side, but one that struggles at home. From what I've seen I believe we've deserved to have won every away game, but only really have deserved one home win.

    We are not the finished article by a long way. We've come on massively since the end of last season, but we've still got a long way to go in our development.
     
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  8. Siohmy

    Siohmy Reservist

    Watford games are becoming increasingly odd. Yesterday was a very scrappy, niggly, controversial game but still hugely entertaining. Despite some laughably bad final third play it was gripping right to the death. The arrogant TV lot may regret not having one of our games live over the next couple of months in place of whatever durge the likes of Stoke, West Ham and WBA serve up.

    Dackore ;-) was man of the match by some distance. Was everywhere and also the only one trying to be decisive when we seemed to just be knocking the ball round with seemingly no idea of how to break down 10 man Spurs. Seriously good and consistent player.

    A couple of others had a more average day at the office but Spurs, outside of their dubious gamesmanship, are a very good team. Once again they press hard withou the ball and are very good with it. We are trying to play a similar style but they simply do have better players.

    Haven’t seen replays of the various incidents but take the view that, whilst we should have had a penalty and the sending off sounds like just about correct, we may have been fortunate to have 11 men ourselves as one or two bookable decisions went with us. Spurs probably didn’t help themselves with their play acting. Will not accept the Spuds fans views both during and post game that somehow the ref gave them nothing though. Still, not surprising many supporters only see what they want to see. Learnt it from their managers no doubt.

    Still another tough fixture done and the points tick over once more. Need to work on breaking down defences as we now face a run of games who’ll no doubt adopt a more Stoke approach to playing us, hopefully not by being such utter ******* though.
     
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  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I wonder if Jenas/Sherwood and co would have said the sly elbow was just an honest attempt to block off Richarlison had it been Prodl on Kane for example?

    https://twitter.com/btsportscore/status/937016869579403264

    Cannot get away with that sort of thing now days...ok 10-20 years ago maybe.
     
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  10. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Doucoure is not only a frighteningly good midfielder, he can also find the back of the net from 20-25 yards with amazing regularity. There have been some wonderful midfielders in the PL over the years, but not too many that can score regularly like that. Gerrard Lampard and Viera spring to mind.
     
  11. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Good result, but still left feeling a bit disappointed. Probably mainly because of that handball shout being so blatant and the last action of the match. I hate spurs so would have loved it - loved it - had we beaten them. Still, it'll be all the sweeter when we turn them over at Wembley.

    As ever our team would be infinitely improved by the inclusion of gabbiadini, we are so toothless up top. I've sent another 25 emails to the pozzos reminding them that our team currently has NO Italians in.

    Daiquiri MOTM for me. A simply wonderful footballer who I love deeply.

    Id never really noticed trippier before but he was excellent. He controlled a long ball while sprinting at full pace which took my breath away, and put in loads of good crosses. Very impressive.

    Alli was **** but is he really strong? A couple of times our players bounced off him. Weird, cos he's a scrawny little ****.

    Overall, a strangely unenjoyable match for me. I was anxious they'd score a winner at all times, then not getting the pen at the end was the straw.

    Looking forward to Burnley though, I love a gritty northern town.
     
  12. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Mr Hemingway does enjoy a daiquiri.
     
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  13. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Yes. I was amazed that Trippier was given the freedom of the right flank. Was Richie not told to cover him? I was hoping that he and Deeney would be swapped for the second half as Troy would stay put wide and track back.
     
  14. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Lucky twigs and fridge-freezers
     
  15. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    The one thing all of those have in common is that they can hit the ball bl**dy hard and keep it down. That's one h3ll of a skill.
     
  16. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

  17. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

  18. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

  19. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

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    This made me laugh...
     
  20. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

  21. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Apparently there was a push about two minutes before the goal. To balance that, the Dier pen was disallowed because Pereyra told the lino to give us a dodgy corner about 20 minutes earlier
     
  22. Siohmy

    Siohmy Reservist

    He’s an idiot?
     
  23. Tommy Tommy Smith

    Tommy Tommy Smith Academy Graduate

    "Trouble with Kane he isn’t the type to go down with swallow dives and roll,around.
    He’s an honest player.
    If he did what every other c**t did there’d be Orem penalties and sendings off.
    But unlike Ramsey when he gets pushed over in the box it’s real and looks not real becuase take has become real."

    From a Spurs forum. Love it when fans say "not that type of player". If he does it, he absolutely IS that kind of player.

    Also have zero clue what that last sentence means...
     
  24. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    An honest player who goes down like he's been shot in the leg, rolls around in absolute agony for a minute, then is belting through the middle on goal in the next attack.
     
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  25. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Lace up boots and corduroys?
     
  26. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    I feel dirty agreeing with Graham Poll, because we all know he's an arrogant muppet - but he's right about players not knowing the rules. Richarlison got a forearm into the face whilst running at speed. Totally irrelevant whether Sanchez meant to do it or not (he certainly tried to stop him using the arm). As you say - if it was Prodl on Kane, there wouldn't be a discussion.

    But lets not forget - a number of ex pro's tried to argue that Mane shouldn't have been sent off for kicking Ederson in the face - because he "only had eyes for the ball" and therefore didn't mean it. Maybe they just don't like Brazilian players?
     
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  27. Luther Bassett

    Luther Bassett Reservist

    Can’t imagine anyone less likely to quote Sham 69 than you, IBB.
     
  28. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    They didn’t ruin it if we get £75m for ‘Rich’.
    I think the Pozzos have a few more Rich players in the pipeline.
    Happy days for us and them.
     
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  29. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    If Richarlíson had a gun in his face when he was 14 I’m sure he’ll be thinking the Portuguese equivalent of ‘you poxy stupid ****’ at Dier’s hard man act.

    Wot an ar$€ whole.
     
  30. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Ones a Pro the others just dire
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  31. Eastcoastorn

    Eastcoastorn First Year Pro

  32. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

  33. Siohmy

    Siohmy Reservist

    I genuinely do not think you’d want to mess with Richarlíson.
     
  34. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Doucoure is looking more and more like a top PL midfielder. He is consistently good and his stamina and desire are outstanding. I think he compares well to guys at some of the top clubs. I would not swap him for Pogba, which might sound mad, but he is the clock that makes us tick at the moment. I think he is our standout player by far - above Richarlison, Gomes and the rest. Just hope he can keep going until some of our other midfielders come back.
     
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  35. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Dier couldn’t fight his way out of a paper bag. Richarlison grew up with murderers and street gangs.
    Dier’s regreting that confrontation from his body language
     

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