the end of streaming in the uk

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by gregibelieve, Jul 27, 2017.

  1. gregibelieve

    gregibelieve First Year Pro

    living abroad in a country that really isnt bothered about piracy and streaming this wont effect me too much. However the clamp down on kodi and streaming sites really does highlight a huge issue regarding football and teh way the fans get to watch their teams. I for one would tell the likes of sky and the FA to look at how companies like spotify and netflix have change the paradigm in music and film. they are models that work and make money for all. I would quite happily pay a fee for a tv season tivket for Watford. I think they will continue to loose money on the games if they continue in this way
     
  2. reids

    reids First Team

    It's not the end of streaming. There's very little they can do about it. As long as TV/film/music piracy is rampant, sports streaming will also be.
     
  3. Dusbero

    Dusbero First Year Pro

    I'm amazed that Sky haven't started broadcasting every game in Netflix style. They'd make a killing.
     
  4. reids

    reids First Team

    It's the law that's holding them back (the no live games at 3PM). They do such a thing in USA and other countries for the PL.
     
  5. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I stream most away games and will still be doing so merrily this season. There are ways around most of these things.
     
  6. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I don't think it's the law. It's just an agreement between the FA, the leagues and the broadcasters not to show live matches during a specified period of time.
     
  7. reids

    reids First Team

    Ah it seems you're right! For some reason, I thought there was a law passed for it when it was agreed.
     
  8. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Not an agreement but an FA stipulation/rule thay broadcasters abide by. Stemming from the 60s. It's even why, today, the FA Cup final isn't on a Saturday at 3pm.

    UEFA give all its members permission to impose a blackout and, of course, we are the only 'major' country that does it. Decide for yours£lf the reason why.

    Archaic, behind the times and according to the ECJ - has no impact on attendances, either at youth level or 'smaller' club level.

    http://www.sports.legal/2016/12/the-saturday-afternoon-football-blackout-an-analysis/ - great article here.
     
  9. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yes, a good article. But the FA Cup Final was televised on a Saturday at 3pm for decades until a few seasons ago. The move to 5.30pm was driven entirely by broadcasters who offered the FA more £££ if they acquiesced. It's nothing to do with the blackout.
     
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  10. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player


    On this matter, Comrade Diamond and I are in full and complete harmony and agreement.
     
  11. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Obviously. But the reasoning given is the blackout.

    Which is why it won't change in the short term.
     
  12. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Where? I've not seen that.

    In fact in 2012 when it was introduced the FA were pretty open about the reasons:

     
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  13. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Ah fair enough. Surprised it hasn't mentioned in the articles I've read about it. Doesn't fit the narrative, I suppose.
     
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  14. rookeryron

    rookeryron First Year Pro

    here in Cyprus we used to get sky until they changed the footprint of their transmission and I was paying them for their service until they did this, some 30 gb per month they lost a lot of revenue an estimated 30,000 in Spain alone that is a lot of marketing spend to get 30k new clients I now spend 20 Euro per month for better quality and far more channels. When I challenged them they advised me that it was illegal to take the card out of the UK the excuse being copyright of the BBC and me not paying a licence fee err make a package minus the Beeb channels or structure a payment plan that takes enough in 12 months to pay the fee oh and they took payment via my Bank account in Cyprus on a standing order bit of an easy audit trail to see their rules being breached even Freddie Laker would have found a way around this one
     
  15. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    The solution is straight forward , it's just archaic laws , systems and modes of thinking that prevent a sensible solution .

    Commercialise streaming all away games , charge for it and the clubs can use the massive increase in income to heavily subsidise ticket prices so stadium are still full .

    In fact longer term , many clubs would be able to increase stadia capacity by chargeing low admission prices such that you would have a plethora of 50k stadiums . Similar system to Germany in respect to cheap ticketing and large stadia.
     
  16. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    Unless they stop filming all Prem games for broadcast around the world it probably won't end. UK ISPs would have to block access to all streaming sites, as well as the use of VPNs, otherwise people in the UK will always be able to access them. This could happen but I doubt it. New services pop up all the time & they would move around to sidestep the blocks.
     

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