Diamond stood in front of the mirror with his home made pistol attached to the inside of his coat jacket, swinging his arm out to quickly extend the pistol into his hand , ready to fire at a moments notice. Inside the gun was a single Marco 'Silva bullet' made from old 10 pence pieces, he d stole from the charity pot in the newsagents. His newly shaven Mohican glistened in the moonlight streaming through the window of his dimly lit single room bedsit. "Are you talking to me ?" He asked the reflection "Don't see anyone else in here , punk , so are you talking to me ?" Just then another reflection did appear in the mirror , standing behind Diamond. "Please allow me to introduce myself , I'm a man of wealth of taste " said the elegantly dressed werewolf . "Yeah? " said Diamond " you may have been around for long long years but you won't be selling this mans soul to waste" Diamond turned and was ready to empty his barrel , when a second werewolf jumped in front of him punching Diamond to the floor and knocking the gun out of his hand. "I was around when Jesus Christ had his moments of doubt and pain, made dam sure that Pilate washed his hands and sealed his fate" said the taller , more evil werewolf sharpening his claws on a Harrods nail file. The smaller , more elegantly dressed wolf , sneezed from the snuff he had just sniffed and adjusted his monocle , all the better to take in the spectacle . " Yeah, well I was never a Stones man, always a Beatles man myself" said a defiant Diamond. " And for that alone , my dear friend, you must die" ..... Diamond was GOOD Meanwhile, the Guardian waited outside SLB's house all night. ------------------------------------- 18 Players remaining: BigRossLittleRoss Otter The PozzMan Steve Leo Beleck Grrwood With A Smile Squibba Cassetti's Beard HappyHornet24 Meh Cthulhu Hornetgags Nisman Domthehornet Steve Harrow PowerJugs NW Orn Optimistichornet
That's right, they do now know each other. RIP Diamond. Can we assume the seer saw SLB yesterday? I know it's possible for DR to have been tinker but I still believe SLB is evil, and I also suspect HH24 as a possible traitor.
****. RIP Diamond. And yeah now the wolves know each other, which means we need to pretty much analyse what was said yesterday for any hints
Bugger, yes, they know one another now; and why no mention of the Guardian? Harrow, can you confirm if a Guardian is "good" or "very good" please? I'm out and about a lot today which is probably just as well for Team Good as I seem to be exceptionally rubbish. My logic seems to be **** but my thoughts on how Daft Row was good: 1. First message was from Seer; SLB is the harlot and Daft Row was the tinker again 2. Second message was from Seer; SLB is evil and harlot did not announce themselves either to protect themselves (unlikely surely?) or one of the players killed on night one was the harlot who hadn't gone out (but SLB wouldn't know this when proclaiming himself to be the harlot) In short, I do not trust my own judgement at the moment so anyone else got any theories?
Poor Daft Row, if we believe that it was the seer that viewed him then he must have been the Tinker again. The chances of coming up against another good that the wolf has picked 2 days in a row must be hugely unlikely. The fact that SLB outed himself as the harlot, with no one challenging his claim, suggests that A – the 2nd message was from the wolf ( the seer would have seen him as good ) B – As the claim was made by the wolf we can not take it as 100% that he is good, we only have the fact that no one challenged his outing to back him up. At this stage I would say 70/30 good in my opinion. Two wolves attacking Diamond - UUURRRGGRRR another experienced player gone. I find this strange after Diamond was accused of leading the pack towards Daft Row. UUURRRGGRRRR Not sure what to make of an early message. So early after the post about Diamonds write up. And why view Squibba ? I can remember seeing that they have posted controversially or accusingly to others. We sit and wait for the next message
Hadn't seen messages when posted. Wolves know one another but I don't think the Aplha would name the other wolf at all in the messages - ie wouldn't name another wolf as "good" as will want to keep them off radar.
As I see it DR tinker again or good named by wolf as evil SLB harlot or named by seer as evil Kill the harlot and we don't lose much. Leave a wolf and we lose a lot. Therefore lynch him
OK, at least we still have a guardian. Sorry guardian, but protecting SLB was a bit naive in my view. If I was a wolf, i wouldn't have gone for him. Why? Because if he is the harlot, and a wolf went for him, the write up would say he was out and his claim would be confirmed. Leaving him alone leaves doubt hanging over him.
Once the Harlot is outed it effectively becomes a normal villager because the wolves won't attack her knowing she is likely to be out . In fact you could argue the harlot becomes a liability when outed , because if caught by wolf visiting it will end in an extra kill for evil . It will also end in an extra kill for evil if she selects a wolf/traitor to stay with . So once outed the best the Harlot can do is stay at home and thus effectively become no more than a normal villager . SLB is a clever player so why would he effectively eradicate all his powers, other than to disrupt the lynch vote . Furthermore because of SLBs tactic we wasted a guardian visit on SLB last night when he should have been guarding Diamond who , as the most experienced player , is clearly a target . I'm open to being persuaded during the day but at the moment my vote is for SLB. We have nothing more to go on and a very good chance of killing an evil at the risk of losing an ineffective harlot . It seems unlikely that DR would be tinker twice in a row IMO .
SLB defence relies on him being the harlot 1/25 AND daft being the tinker 1/25 combining them makes it very very very unlikely
It may not feel like it at the moment but as a team you did the right thing yesterday - you got rid of the Tinker (incredible bad luck for Daft Row) and saved the Harlot. It was a waste for the Guardian to be outside my house as I wasn't there. I was out and now know two players are Good for definite. I thought the Seer could have helped me out a bit by viewing me today, but hey ho.
Am I right in thinking that only the moderator knows for sure who the tinker is ?( until it is logically deductible ) Yet the 1st message today called DR the tinker as fact. No one knows this for sure yet, so therefore this must be a lie and therefore must be the wolf talking . Therefore message 2 must be the seer calling SLB as evil .
Surprised I was viewed, didn't think I was really offering much of anything to be honest! I am just going to come out and share my thoughts as they are right now. I am Good so message one is the Seer. I'm not sure if that clears SLB though as the seer is assuming he's the harlot rather than having any fact to prove it now? Opti could also be good as named by the wolf just to kill an experienced good player or it could be a brave double bluff which is unlikely IMO. It looks like it makes sense to only vote for myself, Opti or SLB but in theory we could actually all be innocent.
1 out of every 625 games this is the case. 624 times out of 625 games he is evil. I'm 99.8% sure he is evil
A couple of other things: IF I was Team Evil, think about my behaviour at the start yesterday. The first message came through which named Daft Row. I said that this seemed like a Wolf message BEFORE the second message came out. If you think that that message was the Alpha Wolf, then think about the implications: 1. If I was the Alpha, why would I undermine my own message? 2. If I was the Traitor, I would know that Daft Row wasn't Evil, so again why would I undermine the Alpha's message? 3. If I was the Beta, why would I say anything at all that might undermine a player being named as Evil before seeing what the second message said?
I agree that, at the moment, SLB is the only player "named" as evil so the obvious vote. I feel uneasy, though, because I am still not clear on why the "real" harlot didn't come forward, if SLB was lying? Also, in an attempt to work out which of today's messages is the Seer's, I had a quick look at Squibba and Opti's posts from yesterday. Both voted for Daft Row but Opti followed the same logic as I did to get there. Squibba, though, said he thought message 2 was the Seer's initially; made a random accusation at Diamond (& me); and then only voted for Daft Row because he was "following the crowd". Squibba being viewed today would fit IF message one yesterday was from the Seer and Daft Row was the tinker. For those who think I'm the traitor, why has the Seer not viewed me? They clearly don't think I'm evil.
If the Seer viewed DR yesterday, they would have seen them as Evil but obviously now they know they are Good. Therefore they know they were the Tinker.
It is logically deductible for the Seer; they would view a player as "evil" who would then be declared as "good" when killed. The only role for whom this happens is the tinker. I've been the tinker and it's very frustrating; you have no idea, you just think you're good & you've been wrongly accused of being evil.
You were/are on my list to be honest. If no alternative Harlot still comes forward today then I trust SLB and therefore trust you. Unless SLB is lying then no Harlot will. No good will lie as no point. No evil will as no point drawing attention to themselves. So failing a new Harlot reveal, SLB and Squibba are off my list.
Been working since 6, and only able to properly read through at 3, but I feel this will be a good day for getting a wolf
Also, have a look at the style of the messages today, as if by magic, the paragraphing that I pointed out yesterday has disappeared and now both messages capitalise GOOD. This is the Wolf changing their style to imitate the Seer. We KNOW that Day 1 Message 1 is the Seer as both messages on Day 2 say so, therefore logically one must be from the Seer. So the Seer started off writing all in one paragraph and capitalising GOOD. Both messages today do that too. How likely is it that the Seer started off writing in one style, then changed their style to copy the Wolf on Day 2 (at the same time the Wolf changed to copy the Seer!), and then the Seer changed back again to copy the Wolf's new style on Day 3? The Seer has been consistent with their style throughout and the Wolf has now abandoned the paragraphing and the lower case to match the Seer. Day One: Anonymous Message 1 Good morning everybody, it is your seer speaking. I viewed Ashdonwfc this morning, he is GOOD Day One: Anonymous Message 2: Hello everyone! I wanted to see whether anyone stood out more than another before viewing today. It is such pot luck. Went for Diamond and they are good. I am going to try and mix up the style of writing to avoid the wolf copying me in the next few days. Day 2: Anon Msg 1: Ok everybody, I know the first day is difficult. People need to remember that shouting accusations about doesn't help anybody at this stage. Today I decided to view DAFT ROW he is EVIL. I also viewed Ashdon yesterday, he is Good. Day 2, Anon Msg 2: Morning villagers A mixed night last night. But fortune today as I viewed Steve Leo Beleck and he is evil! Ashdon was viewed as good by me yesterday. Shame that the wolf jumped at that knowledge. I do not know if Diamond is good or bad as I did not view them. Day 3, Msg 1: Ouch, yesterday's result was very difficult to take. Please forgive me for guiding you towards daft row, he was the tinker. Today I viewed SQUIBBA, he is GOOD. I did not view SLB, as I believe that he is probably the harlot. Day 3, Msg 2: Right everybody, last night was a shame but it was me who viewed SLB as EVIL so that helps a lot. I viewed OptimisticHornet today, he is GOOD.
Ok. I have to go out now but one interesting point about the messages. SLB made quite a thing about the style of the messages. I followed a slightly different logic yesterday as I've been tripped up before by looking at the style of messages. But interesting that today both messages have reverted to the use of capitals for "GOOD"; the point that SLB was highlighting yesterday.
