Should Silva Go Poll

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Nuandy, Dec 30, 2017.

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Is it time for Silva to go

Poll closed Jan 6, 2018.
  1. Yes

    53 vote(s)
    24.7%
  2. No

    162 vote(s)
    75.3%
  1. Nuandy

    Nuandy Academy Graduate

    Simple yes or no
     
  2. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    No


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  3. Vicarage Road

    Vicarage Road Reservist

  4. Vicarage Road

    Vicarage Road Reservist

    i mean yes
     
  5. Necrobutcher

    Necrobutcher Reservist

    Pozzo should have booted his arse out and taken Everton's ten million.
     
  6. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Should have taken the £10 million but we didn't so no.
     
  7. J.B

    J.B First Team

    The fact that there is even a poll on this is a total embarrassment.

    For all the great things that the Pozzos have done since buying the club, they really have turned a lot of our fanbase into a bunch of completely deluded, spoilt ****heads. You've all become the fans that we used to laugh at when we were ****.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2017
  8. dynamo380

    dynamo380 Reservist

    No, because theres more going on here than just replacing the manager will fix.
     
  9. nascot

    nascot First Team

    No. There is more to the current problems than just the manager.
     
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  10. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    So those who voted no, who would you replace him with?
     
  11. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Eh?
     
  12. nascot

    nascot First Team

    Er, no one?
     
  13. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Lay off the ale, mate.
     
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  14. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    If Mazarri had another year and was given Richarlison, Wague, Femenia and Zeegelaar, would he be doing better than we are now?

    We’d probably be in a very similar position.

    The football might be worse, but I’d take 90 minutes of irritating hoof ball over 89 minutes of slightly better football and the agony of two late conceded goals.

    The only reason I’m erring on the remain side right now is that our sub bench is incredibly devoid of quality. I’d give Silva a few games with a decent attacker and see if he can get our mojo back.
     
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  15. Irishorn

    Irishorn Gael Force

    3 out of 4 voted no. 1/4 have a different view from us. Relax. It was a truly bitter pill to take today. Venting anger is understandable.
     
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  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I think Silva is a good coach, but only when he's got all his best players available. How we miss Chalobah and he was a major ingredient in our early season form.

    Where Silva has badly fallen down is the inability to make us resilient and grind our results when we've not been at our best.

    I look at Watford and see a pathetic mess that will see us relegated. We are bottom of the form league and have been the worst team in the Premier for a while now. Defensively we are na*ve in the extreme and we lack any real knowhow to see out games.

    Our only hope is that Chalobah comes back soon and firing. We need Kiko back as Janmaat is a liability. We are weak and feeble and opposition find it too easy to break us down. We give every team chances even when we are ahead and the game seems lost. Everyone knows this and it gives opponents belief.

    Of course we need better players, but how many are we going to bring in in January? I'm sure it won't be 6 or 7.

    Silva has to work with what he's got, and get the best out of it. So far, in this aspect, he's failed badly.

    We picked up 15 points from the first 8 games, since then we've only got 10 points from the next 13 games. We are going in only one direction. It all coincides with the Everton approach.

    When Silva refused to commit to Watford, it sent a message to his players. If he cannot commit, then why should they? As far as I'm concerned the inevitable is going to happen sooner or later. I only pray it doesn't cost us our Premier League status.
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2017
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  17. yes

    something has to change, and it's impractical to change the squad
     
  18. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    No - I think with the current team of players available we have the least premier league experience of nearly any bunch of players (can’t be bothered to check but I’d bet in accumulated premier league games today’s starting 11 is in the bottom three), and I can’t see another coach coming in and doing better

    Injury recovery and a couple of January additions and I think we’ll rediscover some form
     
  19. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    We are not bottom of the form league.
     
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  20. The message I get from the way he behaved over Everton is he doesn't particularly want to be here, we're just something to do until something better comes along

    Okay.. just f**** off then, I'd rather have someone committed to the club
     
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  21. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Hid post match posture and tone give an all to clear impression of how he generally feels. Apart from GT only Dyche and maybe Joka was passionate even in defeat. It goes a long way from his words to the players to the fans.
     
  22. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yes.

    There are mitigating circumstances for our form with injuries, squad quality, suspensions, refs etc..

    But I break it down like this - if we just had some guy from the backroom picking the side and tossing a coin between 3-4-3 and 4-3-2-1 each game and then making like for like subs when players tired, got injured or were at risk of a 2nd yellow, would we be any worse off over the last 13 games than we have been under the stewardship of Silva?

    I can't see that we would be. In fact, it is my belief (which I'm sure others will disagree with) that we could be 4 or 5 points better off without Silva over that period.

    To me he's a net negative on the club, not a positive. There's nothing about how he's doing his job which justifies him keeping his job. He's doing nothing right.

    He has to go.
     
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  24. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

  25. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Has this **** been fired yet?
     
  26. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    If the club don't think he'll be here next season regardless, then he should go now tbh.
     
  27. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

  28. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    No but a little humility from him would be appreciated.
    I don't care much for his manner and there appears less to him than meets the eye.
     
  29. Banjo

    Banjo Reservist

    Definitely not yet. January transfer period and subsequent results Jan/Feb/Mar crucial though.
     
  30. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Silva has achieved 1.14 points per game with us and he achieved 1.23 points per game with Hull. That’s based on the same amount of games, 22.

    We have a supposedly better team than Hull, so how can this be explained?

    Also to put his record into perspective, looking at a random also ran manager like Alan Pardew, generally considered to be **** at his job, he achieved a record of 1.36 and 1.38 PPG at Palace and Newcastle respectively. Again how can this be explained?
     
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  31. The way I see it we are in a perfect storm caused by:

    Flawed penny pinching summer recruitment
    3 pi55 poor strikers who couldn't hit a barn door between them
    Injuries to key players
    Lack of quality back up
    A string of atrocious referee decisions
    Never having a settled back 4... or 3
    Goalkeeper prone to great saves but just as many game losing blunders
    Marking
    Silva mixed message to the players of what is acceptable commitment to the club

    Silva can't change all of those, but what he could do is at least try to adapt team and tactics, I think most forgive him if through necessity we were playing pragmatic percentage football until the Jan window

    That for me is why he has to go, because he's bl00dy minded insistence on setting up and playing his way no matter the problems
     
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  32. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

  33. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I think it's 90% Gray not turning out to be anything like as good as expected and 10% the rest. £18m is not penny pinching. It was just dreadful recruiting. If he had turned out to be like prime vardy, we'd be where Burnley are now.

    He was precisely what we needed, apart from the being completely useless bit.
     
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  34. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    I liked your post because I agreed with everything you said, THEN I read the final sentence.

    Silva needs to stay IMO, we need to find some consistency in our managerial appointments and bringing in a new head coach now would only be a short-term fix IMO (and that's assuming that his replacement would even be successful).
     
  35. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    I accept that you don't like Gray, but you need to give it a rest. I agree that he's thoroughly underwhelmed so far, but I also think that he CAN be a success here. I'd like to see us bring in another striker or two and see Gray given a chance as playing in a front 2.

    I see him as a confidence player, like Vydra, and think that if Silva gets his man management right then there's no reason why Gray can't be a success here.

    I doubt that after spending £18m on Gray in the summer Pozzo is ready to give up on him, so why should we? He obviously has ability as seen by his record, we just need to bring in the right players and manage Gray better. He CAN succeed here IMO.
     
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