Relegation watch

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by IRB, Dec 12, 2017.

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Are we going to get relegated?

Poll closed May 24, 2018.
  1. No

    87 vote(s)
    79.8%
  2. Yes

    22 vote(s)
    20.2%
  1. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    Does that one place fill you with confidence for this season?
     
  2. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    I think Deeney's comments after we beat them will seal our fate in that match
     
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  3. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Well I'd tend to agree if it was most sides and Arsenal are strong at home but if we can get at them who knows...
     
  4. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I’m mentally on the beach already. :D
     
  5. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    If we go down, then it will down to underfunding and lack of attention to the defence.

    Statistically we are not the worst, as Stoke have conceded a few more, but imo we have by far the worst defence. How many great saves does Gomes have to make? Without him we'd have conceded over 50 goals by now.

    We are woefully served by the current defensive members of our squad. But it's not all their fault, under good coaching they would perform better, as QSF proved.

    Since QSF, both Wally and Silva have not bothered about this area of the game, which is a bizarre way of setting up a team.

    Unless we seriously invest in better players, or the coach makes a tactical change and focuses on defence, we will probably get relegated. I see no other obvious conclusion.

    It's a serious problem, and one that shouldn't take vast sums of money to resolve. But if left alone or not recognised, we could be paying the ultimate price come the end of this season.
     
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  6. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Hopefully they'll want to come out kicking and get a man sent off!!!
     
  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Martin O'Neill has told Stoke to stick their job. They've almost handled their manager search as well as Everton.
     
  8. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    That seems an odd decision on his part.
     
  9. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Is anyone else concerned about Paul Mersons reaction if the gulp worst happens?
     
  10. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I am more likely to ask that enormous twit to help translate chapter 18 of my text book than I am to be consider his thoughts on Watford.
    Sky Sports jester in residence.
     
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  11. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    A broken clock is still right twice a day etc etc etc yadda yadda yadda...
     
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  12. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Paul Lambert has got the gig - I imagine the Stoke fans are delighted !
     
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  13. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Lambert's last 3 finishes

    18th in Prem
    15th in Championship
    15th in Championship
     
  14. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    You'd imagine he is envisaged as just a stopgap until the summer - surely?

    They will still beat us, though...
     
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  15. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Stoke should have brought in Aidy Boothroyd! Hidden Tiger, Peter Crouch.
     
  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Not saying anything till we play them !
     
  17. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Imagine the reaction on here if Watford appointed Paul Lambert and they are far more established.
     
  18. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    I wouldn't say underfunding is the issue, there's plenty of money that has been thrown at the squad. 7th highest in the League someone quoted previosuly? It's just been poorly spent by those in charge of transfers.
     
  19. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Lambert will keep them up, he's a low risk option. Knows the league and has better players than he had at Norwich
     
  20. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Will he? I've seen little evidence to suggest that is likely.
     
  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    He's got an ideal game in a couple of weeks to get their season up and running.
     
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  22. Bookie

    Bookie Academy Graduate

    Don't think Stoke were too smitten with Mark Hughes when he became manager, but he did ok for them until recently. Anyway, the manager merry-go-round has generally given a club a boost this season and Lambert has the bar set pretty low for him: survival
     
  23. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Sacking Hughes for Lambert is lunacy .
     
  24. Silver10

    Silver10 First Year Pro

    We are relying on there being 3 other clubs in a bigger mess than us. Then again so is every team from us down in the table. Sadly I think this is the premier league. Top 6, then Everton and perhaps Leicester then the rest. All fighting for the same few players and aiming for 10/11 wins to stay up. Most not even bothering for the cups either. I have the believe that we will somehow scrap the 3/4 wins we need to stay up. Doubt it will be pretty and like last year could be painful at times.
    I think when Silva goes as he will whatever in the summer we need to have real hard think about what happens next.
    The Stoke game is massive in a couple of weeks. Win and all is good lose and we really are in massive amount of brown stuff.
    For what it is worth I think Swansea are down and then its 2 from the next 9. In the end at least 1 of the promoted teams will go.
     
  25. Silver10

    Silver10 First Year Pro

    Hughes would have gone a lot sooner if he hadn't got their only away win at ours. Yes Lambert can't wait for us to rock up.
     
  26. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Always good for a few stats. http://www.wfc.net/stats.htm

    Our form is dreadful, 4 points out of 32. Palace and West Ham have gained 11 points on us in those 8 games !

    Thank god we had a decent start
     
  27. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    I think if Silva will definitely be gone in the summer, we need to get rid now. I think managerial continuity will have to come at some stage if the club is the reach the next level.
     
  28. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    yep.....we're now officially crap.
     
  29. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Fine - and replace with who?

    Stoke have surely just demonstrated that the options are currently limited. Even Giggs is out of the picture now!
     
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  30. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    That form table is fixed. We should be above Southampton as a win is worth more than 4 draws :D
     
  31. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    I don't know. However, I would be very surprised if the Pozzo's didn't have a shortlist. Lets face it, any manager happy to be at the club already has that over Silva. There are bound to be plenty of managers looking for a chance in the EPL. Hopefully the next manager doesn't believe so much in his own hype!
     
  32. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    At the end of a season, maybe. Not so sure about halfway through - if they are currently in a job. See QSF.

    How about Louis Van Gaal? He’s out of work.
     
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  33. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I just wonder if Everton had shut up and not come looking for Silva would we be where Burnley are now? Not on their current slump but more or less.
     
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  34. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Top 5, then *rsenal.

    The hapless Wenger has now got his team closer to Burnley than Spurs.

    And that’s before Sanchez goes.

    And they reckon Wiltshire is their best player.
     
  35. Watfordftw

    Watfordftw Reservist

    Paul Lambert is such an uninspiring appointment, although I didn't think Hodgson could pull Palace out of their early season slump, but he's done well there so who knows.

    Although our situation isn't great, theres enough clubs around the bottom who have similar/worse issues and less points than us.
     

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