Relegation watch

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by IRB, Dec 12, 2017.

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Are we going to get relegated?

Poll closed May 24, 2018.
  1. No

    87 vote(s)
    79.8%
  2. Yes

    22 vote(s)
    20.2%
  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Draw for Southampton then..least they didn't win.

    If only we could win Saturday.

    They have Bournemouth next whose fans would love to send them down !!
     
  2. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Well all 3 were away with the transfer planning fairies but fortunately Soton were useless....they need 2 wins and 2 draws now to overtake us if we don't get another point.
     
  3. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Well at least Southampton didn't win the game in hand. They can now get a max of 41 points, and Stoke a max of 40. Whilst I still reckon cut off will be 34-36, depending on results over the weekend a win on Saturday may make our safety mathematically certain
     
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  4. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    Just really glad Soton didn’t win it as otherwise would have felt pretty nervous.
     
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  5. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

    Christ on a bike, they've won 5 games all season, what is wrong with you lot?
     
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  6. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Tell me about it....I'm just waiting for hornetboy to come out and say its 50/50 as to whether we will stay up!
     
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  7. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    According to hornetboy the season has already finished and we're still 50/50 to go down...
     
  8. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    How would you know, seeing as you apparently didn't read the post? I did add some pictures especially for you though, so maybe you got it from that?
     
  9. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I didn't look at the pictures either, I'm just extrapolating from your general demeanour.

    Plus, you didn't reject my assertion, which I believe further supports my point ;)
     
  10. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    So you make assumptions based on nothing, which makes you a bit of a fool. ;)
     
  11. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    On Betfair we're 160-1 to be relegated, (if anyone wants their Championship ST's paid for next season).
     
  12. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Panic! GOBE told us the odds were 250-1 a couple of weeks ago,
     
  13. We were. Then we lost two games.
     
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  14. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    So did Southampton though...
     
  15. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    No, based on your foolish output - including your fecklessly eager season review thread, which I did not read the contents of.
     
  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    How do you know it was foolish if you didn't read it? That's quite a strange assessment. You've had a bit of a mare. You've tried to have a go, but it badly backfired on you. Accept it, move on and I wish you well with your future attacks.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2018
  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

     
  18. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Southampton have won one of their last 21 league games ... and that was against West Brom.
     
  19. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I think people that use the argument of 'Southampton have only won 5 games, they are not going to win again', don't really understand football.

    When a team gets to the point of "must win", they can respond. Look at West Brom. They'd won only 3 all season, but travelled to Old Trafford last week and won!!.

    Look at Leicester a few years ago. They were rooted to the foot of the table, in a hopeless situation, but went on to win 9 of their last 11 games.

    Just imagine if Southampton had won at Leicester last night. Small margins, but we'd be only 6 points from the bottom three, with 4 games remaining. That's a bit too close to be comfortable. But luckily for us, they only drew.

    We are 8 points clear, with 4 games to go. Of course Stoke or Southampton or even both, may go on good runs, but if they do, it would mean Swansea would have lost to both these sides. Brighton also have a very difficult run, although they only need 1 point to go above us on GD, it's going to be hard for them to pick up another point.

    Of course we can do ourselves a favour by beating Palace. Even a draw would be acceptable as it stops them from overtaking us, and would give us another point of course.

    I don't think we'll go down as the permutations and likelihoods are positive for us, but while there is a mathematical possibility, no one should be smug or conceited about it.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2018
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  20. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    Swansea at home to both stoke and Southampton could seal their own fate if they lose both of them.
     
  21. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    This I agree with, and it's obvious that Southampton have improved rapidly the last few weeks. I ran one of those "score predictors" and was not overly generous. With one game to go, (Man U away), the table could very well look like this:

    15: Huddesfield 38 points
    16: Swansea 38 points
    17: Watford 37 points
    18: Southampton 35 points

    If we don't pick up any points in the last 4 games then IMO we're bang in trouble. I'm not usually one for give 2 hoots with so many teams below us, but with these to**ers on the field I'm going to have myself £10 worth of that 160-1.
     
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  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    ...nor should they be starting "Season review" threads ;)
     
  23. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Why not? The forum is for everyone to write what they like, as long as it's not offensive. Thankfully is place is not policed by you, nor operates to your ideals. ;)
     
  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Both Stoke and Soton have winnable games as their next match. They really need to win to keep hopes alive. If not they may be effectively down by the time they play Swansea. I expect there to be a final twist and wouldn't rule out one of them escaping given previous seasons shocks. Don't think that twist will include us though as Stoke need 3 wins and a draw from 4 due to their GD, and Soton need 2 wins and 2 draws to catch us if we don't pick up another point.
     
  25. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I agree with most of that.

    But Watford gave needed to win one of their last 3 games to be safe. And we haven’t. So it kinda debunks your first paragraph.
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    For what it’s worth, I really don’t see Southampton or Stoke putting the results together that are required to stay up.
     
  27. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    It's not debunked, just because Watford couldn't do it. We have never been at the "must win" point. We're still at that "it would be nice to win and get over the line, but if not, we still have another chance next week" point.

    I'm not saying Southampton, or Stoke will put a run together, but they might respond successfully to their situation. I think Southampton are best equipped to do this. They have a good squad and any given day they could win. I saw them against Chelsea and Arsenal. They were unlucky at Leicester last night by all accounts. They've definitely improved their performance level recently, although they've not had the results to show for it yet. Not so sure about Stoke. Their manager isn't all that impressive nor is their team.
     
  28. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Sure, but I also look forward to not reading your review of The Sixth Sense:

    "It seemed quite spooky, I liked that bit with the tent, but it was also a bit boring. I really needed to take a dump towards the end though so had to leave the cinema with 15 minutes left. I'm guessing Hayley Joel Osment is a ghost?"
     
  29. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Are you on medication? You are certainly one weird fella.
     
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  30. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Good film.
     
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  31. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Weirdest analogy/reference I’ve ever seen.
     
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  32. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I totally agree with you on this one HB, I know it is unlikely but by no means impossible that we could still be relegated if we do not pick up any more points, and us not picking up any more points is a distinct possibility on our current run of form.

    Having said that one win will almost certainly see us home.
     
  33. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Lose tomorrow and we're down. Can't keep wearing moccasins on a glass mountain and hoping for others to be wearing socks or ice skates. Need to wear crampons or running spikes, or maybe suction cup things.
     
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  34. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Wouldn’t rubbing the glass create static?

    Surely the most eco friendly way to survive.
     
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  35. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

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