Points Progress 17/18

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Davidmsawyer, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Extrapolating from that graph puts us on 70 points at the end of the season. Doesn't sound too bad does it?
     
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  2. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    I’d take that!
     
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  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think you are reading it wrong.
     
  4. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Yes we did, so the 15-16 graph on the comparable fixtures goes from 3 points after the Liverpool game to 4 points after the Bournemouth game. The 3 points we took was from the equivalent fixture of Brighton at Home ( I can’t remember off the top of my head which team I used for Brighton, but obviously one of the relegated ones)
     
  5. poleman

    poleman Reservist

    You are right, I was reading it wrong! See it now. Sorry
     
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  6. ST1968

    ST1968 First Year Pro

    Oh the optimism of youth.

    Clearly the extrapolation is to between 69 and 70 points. 69.66recurring to be precise.

    So I think we should remain cautious and target 69 points rather than over stretch and target 70. ;-)
     
  7. Mollyboo

    Mollyboo First Year Pro

    Can a recurring figure ever be precise?
     
  8. jw-

    jw- Reservist

  9. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Yes ... 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
     
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  10. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Or 69 2/3
     
  11. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Goal difference is worth 0.66 recurring. Fact.
     
  12. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Goal difference is worth nothing until it becomes active through two teams having the same points. At that point it becomes worth an unspecific number between 0.01 points and 0.99 points.

    Final word on the matter.
     
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  13. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    At the rate quoted above we will be safe after 22 games which is Jan 1st away to Man City, what a way to celebrate the New Year, would give us a 16 game buffer if things don't go according to schedule!
     
  14. We've got to play them at home again? Bloody Hell.
     
  15. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    whoops I'm still dreaming have amended thanks
     
  16. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    Not quite. Goal difference is worth nothing until two or more teams finish on level points. Then it is worth no points but does determine ranking - unless two teams have identical goal differences which then goes to goals scored. In exceptional circumstances where the goal difference is the determinant of relegation then it is equavalent to one point but is probably worth over £100 million :)
     
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  17. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    If you forget about relegations then goal difference is worth about a million a place!
     
  18. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange

    Interesting , I work with data for my job and have learnt never to believe any projections from graphs, however in this case I firmly believe the projection and expect us to be safe by January.

    Also interesting shows we have never really been that close to relegation in either of the previous 2 years , let’s hope that trend continues this year
     
  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Correct.
    Another bug of mine is the "away goals count double". No it doesn't. Ever. Otherwise a 2-0 home win and 1-4 away defeat would leave sides level.
    When scores are truly level the team with highest away goals goes through. They don't count double. Why do commentators say that ?
     
  20. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    They only say it in European knockout or other knockout competitions where they do indeed count double .
     
  21. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Or 0.001 and 0.999 points to be more accurate.
    Or 0.0001 and 0.9999 points to be even more accurate.
    Et cetera, ad nauseum.
     
  22. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    That makes sense.

    So in a match with your closest league rivals, would a win be worth between 6.0001 and 6.9999 points?
     
  23. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Definitely maybe.
     
  24. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Both and neither, always and never.
     
  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Except that they don't do they??!!! Win 2-0 at home and lose 3-6 away and you go out 5-6, not through 8-6. It's just the case that the team with most away goals go through if tied but the away goals are never doubled.
     
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  26. ST1968

    ST1968 First Year Pro

    David - I apologise.

    I seem to have orchestrated a complete highjacking of your excellent thread with the simple barely-witty throwaway comment of "69.66 recurring to be precise". I never knew there were so many Watford fans out there even more anal than me. Do get us back on track after the West Brom result.
     
  27. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    Frankly it’s a disgrace. This post was intended as serious antidote to the tomfoolery of this forum. Sadly it has now succumbed as so many posts do. You guys are just lucky my love of graphs exceeds the anger that has been growing inside me as irreverent point after irreverent point has been made.
     
  28. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Is that irreverent recurring though?
     
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  29. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    No, but my post counts as double
     
  30. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Okay I see what you are saying now . Yes you re right .
     
  31. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    Dear David,

    In response, I have to say you've only got yourself to blame..

    I mean, how serious can the antidote be when you forget your slide rule AND rule(r), you go on holiday when the season opens (a hanging offence in my day), AND somehow allow invading aliens to infiltrate your graphs?

    Yah boo, poor show, tish tish etc
    Keep up the good work.
    Love and kisses,
    Tom Foolery

    :p

    PS. And do you mean irreverent point or irrelevant decimal point (recurring)?
    Just asking ..
     
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  32. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    A good point away to WBA there, one more point to safety!

    The current position is:
    • 4 points better than this time last year (12 vs 8). This is the same as after the last game
    • 8 points better than the comparable fixtures last year (12 vs 4). This is 1 better than after the last game.
    • 5 points better than the '40 point' line (12 vs 7). This is 1 worse than after the last game.
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  33. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Amazing how the two graphs seem to be identical ;)
     
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  34. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Just so we are clear which of the 34 words in your post is the final word?
     
  35. Davidmsawyer

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