[NOT HAPPENING] Paco Alcácer

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Jul 27, 2018.

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  1. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Good to see that our feeder club are doing so well and getting the guys used to the feel of wearing the yellow and black. Can't wait to see these loans come to an end in January and Sancho laying them on for Alcacer, Talisca and Cucho.
     
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  2. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    TUT, excellent use of a parallel universe.

    Best palce to be this week.
     
  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    What sorcery is this? A parallel universe where RD can't spell?
     
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  4. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Think my Forum account has been hacked by Prussians.
     
  5. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    2 goals inside 30mins for Spain already tonight.
     
  6. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Wish the loan window would hurry up and open so we can get him in.
     
  7. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    BBC website says he's signing a new contract with the Germans. Little do they know. BBC are becoming more like HITC every day.
     
  8. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    HeadInTheClouds.com?
     
  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    "Here in the city" but effectively the same.
     
  10. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Other Hornets target, Sam Vokes, also on target in that game.

    Playing up front together in Jan?
     
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    I still believe Oulare will come good.
     
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  12. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Hasn’t he been money laundered?

    Will lead the line for HMP Antwerp.
     
  13. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    Hasn’t someone from he club stated that we were never in for him in first place .
     
  14. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    As they say for every player with whom we are linked who we fail to buy.
     
  15. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    Maybe we fail the buy them because we were never in for them .
     
  16. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Most I'm sure but you do believe we never fail to buy someone we try to buy ? There was a lot of noise about this one.
     
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  17. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    Of course not. I was merely jesting.
     
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  18. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    #PozzoModel
     
  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    If we wanted him, we'd have got him. Gino clearly and cleverly realised he was scoring all the wrong type of goals for us
     
  20. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    Another goal tonight with a header literally that neither of our strikers would be capable of. Against PL defenders too.

    I like that our club is soundly run. But we should have paid what it took to get him in the summer.

    Edit: Just seen the stat that his last 10 shots at goal....10 goals. You have to believe we'd have buried Arsenal and Fulham at the very least if we'd have got him.
     
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  21. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    So glad we didn't sign this useless ****.
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Just scored to save Spanish embarrassment. Any idea how much we get for international goals?
     
  23. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    What if it wasn't about money and he just wanted to go to a big European club that played in the Champions League in front of 80,000 people, would challenge for trophies and keep him in the spotlight for his national team ambitions?
     
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  24. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    Unlikely...
     
  25. Unhappy bunny

    Unhappy bunny Squad Player

    Would he have come? He may have heard that Watford is just south of Luton and a long way from Bournemouth
     
  26. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Cleverley realised that? Are you sure, he's only got the one goal so far I think.
     
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  27. Moose

    Moose First Team

    Say we could have got him, what would the total cost have been?

    Maybe £5m per year in wages, similar loan fee? So maybe £20m over two years plus a fee to buy at the end of maybe another £20m? If there was competition for his signature then this would go up, maybe £50m with another three years to pay wages.

    This must be right at our limit. I suspect we were interested, but only if Barcelona couldn’t shift him and needed to do a deal.

    Tell me if the maths is well out.
     
  28. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player


    What are this guy's politics?

    How would he fit within the post Thornhill landscape?
     
  29. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    The rumour that I've heard a few times is that we agreed to cover his wages (80k supposedly) for the duration of a 2 year loan and then a compulsory purchase agreement (I don't know how they sort a contract out from there.) But the deal was pulled on deadline day when Alcacer supposedly said he now wanted an extra £40k over an above his Barcelona wage and we pulled out - perhaps because we couldn't afford that or perhaps because Gino didn't appreciate that type of negotiation tactic.

    It's also been said that the club were wary of Gray/Deeney's reaction at Alcacer coming in on such a wage when they had shown good form during pre-season.

    If the above is anywhere near true, it's hard to criticise the clubs actions. But there is still a sense that we have missed out.
     
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  30. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I heard we were never in for him at all.
     
  31. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Gino probably had a deal with his agent that we would pretend to be in for him and help drive the price up for Dortmund, giving us first dibs on a young prospect controlled by the same agent who currently plies his trade in Belgium’s top tier. Sneaky Gino at his finest.
     
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  32. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    I never hear anything about anything. I just go and watch the matches.
     
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  33. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    Possibly but I think there were far too many stories and rumours at the time for us to have shown no interest at all IMO.

    Either way, doesn't matter now.
     
  34. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    The guy is now playing for BVB, one of the biggest clubs in Europe and currently in the Champions League. Why would he come to Watford when other clubs of similar status were in for him ?

    It has been made clear that we were never seriously in for him, most probably because the club knew he would never come to us.

    If you wish to believe some rumours spread to HITC by his agent so as to boost his wage demands from BVB then thats up to you, but please stop cluttering up the forum with this nonsense.
     
  35. Burnsy

    Burnsy Reservist

    Here we go again...I’ll say what I like, when I like, where I like.

    You clearly have an issue with me, so please PM me so we can discuss it. I’m finding your snidey little comments aimed at me quite tiresome. If you don’t like what I contribute, speak to me privately or hit the ignore button. I’m happy with either outcome.
     
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