November Werewolf - Day Four

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Lynching - Day Four

  1. Burnsy

    40.0%
  2. Ashdon

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  3. Cassettis Beard

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  4. Lowerrous

    60.0%
  5. Moog

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  1. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I’m not ‘framing’ you as a certain wolf. There are 5 of us left and I’m trying to theorise all of us to an extent - I know my role as good. And having read previous days again, I believe Moog is good. I’ve even agreed with Moog that I can see why he’s suspicious of me! It’s his degree of certainty that I don’t understand at all. He is playing with blinkers on.

    I am however convinced that either you or CB are a wolf. Utterly convinced. But I just don’t know which is which. Or both!

    So my theory so far is me and Moog are good - 2 of the remaining 3 are Wolves.
     
  2. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    One would hope so. Surely the link between yesterday’s message naming Sinatra; and today’s could have been a little more clear? Instead Burnsy has been named for a third time in four days


    I don’t disagree with this either, but then moog has suggested I’m under the radar without telling me why he is 99% sure I am a wolf... lots of unfounded accusations knocking around for day 4.
     
  3. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Moog won’t explain his theories of why he is so certain and instead believes he’s just needs the backing of the other 2. I’m finding it very odd as I’m near certain he’s good and is doing evil’s job for them unwittingly.
     
  4. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    I’m with you there. I’m fairly sure that on Day 1 Nisman’s message was the one naming Moog as ‘good’.

    It would help to have some rationale because the longer we go without a second message, the more we need to work to ensure we get the numbers behind the correct lynching.

    It’s nothing personal, Burnsy, but I’ve had a hunch you’re Evil since day 2, and Horace (the first back up seer) also put some weight behind that thought process with one or two of his comments on that day.

    That day is also the day you were named as Evil, and CB first named as good (again, named yesterday, this time as Evil, but most likely by the wolf given the other message naming Sinatra proved accurate).
     
  5. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Really? I'm pretty sure I'm the only one you can say is definitely team good.

    I believe you and LR are most likely team evil, perhaps Moog if he's played a blinder.

    Desperation is seeping through your wolf hair
     
  6. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    I'm the vegan villager.
     
  7. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Why can you say you're certain good?

    It's not an accusation of certainty towards you individually - but I am sure that one of you or LR are evil. But not many people are explaining why they are carrying the opinions they hold?
     
  8. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Then I'd strongly advise you to take your own advice on previous days - acting on hunches has got us nowhere. It was only when people were rational yesterday that we finally took out an evil player.

    I can't explain Horace's comments - I really really wish I could. The same as I wish I could explain Cthulhu's noisy gameplay as a good player! I imagine they've been discussing in some depth in the cemetery.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Time to fall on my sword to give Team Good a chance of winning.
    Told myself I'd give it until 4:30pm today and at least give 2hrs to others to work on sussing out who to kill.

    I am 100% good.
    I was made the backup, backup seer before Day 3. The first message naming Sinatra as evil was mine. The lyrics were to Old Devil Moon by Frank Sinatra. That was my hint towards it being a truthful post.

    The only message posted today was also me...no link to the previous days message... the poem is Truth by Chaucer to show that I was telling the truth naming myself as good...

    I named myself as good rather than relaying the info I received from my view, as I was trying to absolutely maximise the amount of good players left going into the last day. But that appears to be doomed to failure! I'd hoped people would start looking at others properly but there's been general reluctance to do so!

    Obviously at the very least, I will be killed for this message overnight. But those left on Team Good, you will have my vote tonight - but if you Lynch me tonight, the wolves will have two kills overnight against just two good players.

    You need to take your focus off lynching me and trust me, this is our only chance of winning, without a huge slice of overnight luck.
     
  10. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Based on your admission Burnsy, I'm happy to follow you with the voting then to maximise the chances for team good

    I'm thinking LR myself
     
  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Yeah I see no link to the previous day's message, there is no way based on what you've said one can conclude that the two messages were written by the same person.

    There is no link in the words between 'Evil' on the first day and 'Truth' in the second day, it does not look like a standard hidden clue.

    If this were true, then why didn't you also post whatever the supposed info was which you received from your view?

    You're clearly blagging.
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Whats your reasoning?
     
  13. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Burnsy, why would you not have made a link between two messages explicit at this stage of the game if you wanted them to carry weight in reasoning?

    For all we know this is a last ditch attempt to get you through one more night which would ultimately secure evil the victory if you remain unscathed.

    We need to lynch a wolf, tonight.
     
  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Who did you view?
     
  15. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Because I went for a bold move instead based on the info I received back. I concluded the info I got wasn't as useful as trying to keep as many good players in the game overnight. Simple as that. Its backfired because todays play has been slow and laborious.
     
  16. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    You.
     
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    So then what do you know. Full disclosure.
     
  18. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Why would you view moog who was already basically the most likely established good player? Sounds like a nonsense bluff.

    Clearly you're just saying moog now because he's the only remaining player you could likely guess the status of with enough accuracy.
     
  19. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I know you're good. For certain. I asked to view you after you said you knew I was evil (which I'm not) and I though you may have actually been evil and trying to sway others against me for the home run victory. It backfired when I was told you were good - and I was left with either saying you were good in my message and the weight of suspicion at me being almost impossible to overturn. Or being bold, naming myself as good and hoping the tide would turn today after another message naming me as good. It backfired because not much has happened today.

    I've been prepared to discuss other 'evil' options all day and nothing has happened....so I've had to resort to this to give Good a chance. If I'm killed tonight, its over. I can swear that to you.

    LR is where my suspicions lie most. But one of LR or CB are defo evil as I've been trying to point towards all afternoon. As I know you're good, and I know I'm good. Which means 1 of them is definitely evil.
     
  20. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    So you did not get the knowledge of previous views from days 1 and 2, one of which was almost certain that I was good?
     
  21. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    No. Take that up with Dom afterwards...maybe he decided a 'backup backup' wouldn't get that privilege. But I was literally just told I was the seer and to choose wisely - which I did in naming Sinatra.
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    What about @AshdonWFC
     
  24. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    In light of Burnsy's comments, i'd like to know why CB can say he's certain to be good...
     
  25. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    In saying that, you're already taking it as a given that Ashdon is 100% certain to be Evil.

    How and why?

    Plus, given that you're saying you know Ashdon is 100% evil, but me and CB are only 50% evil each, then why are you pointing the finger at both me and CB instead of him?
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I repeat..LR is where my suspicions lie most. But one of LR or CB are defo evil as I've been trying to point towards all afternoon. As I know Moog is good, and I know I'm good. Which means 1 of them is definitely evil. LR being very clear that I'm bluffing after him playing fairly sedately thus far...seems rattled. But I want to hear more from CB too.

    We make the right move tonight, and I am killed overnight leaving 2 vs 1 tomorrow. I was weighing up keeping quiet about being the new seer and getting lynched - and hoping the wolves would go for the same kill. But I deduced the chances of that were less that just outing myself.
     
  27. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    100% for me, 50%/50% for you two, gives us 200%, or two full wolves. :D

    I am still yet to be told why I am a wolf other than that I have played a 'classic wolf game'.
     
  28. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I'm not.

    I know I'm good. I know Moog is good. That why I'm pointing the finger at you guys.

    That leaves 3 players left. 2 of which are wolves - so one of you or CB are certain evil just by the sheer numbers being against you. Both of you could be evil and Ashdon could be good, I don't know. But one of you or CB definitely is evil.
     
  29. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Rattled? Don't flatter yourself.

    I'm responding to you likely being a wolf spouting desperate, hole-ridden baloney, all the while accusing me in the process with absolutely zero justification given.
     
  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I don't see how CB can be evil if you are good.

    On day 2 you were named evil in message 1 and he was named Good in message 2.

    Either Horace viewed you, and you are evil or Horace viewed CB and he is good.

    Am I missing something?
     
  31. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Unless someone bluffed their message as I did today.

    Moog, don't mess this up. Take the blinkers off man! CB could well be good - its only his lack of gameplay that I'm questionable about. I'm increasingly more interested in LR as one of the wolves....
     
  32. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Everyone else had basically already established that moog was good.

    Meanwhile, given you still pertain to be utterly clueless about the status of everyone else, your claim that it made more sense to view moog than one of us other 3 players just doesn't add up and is clearly complete bobbins.

    It's a real shame you didn't have the power of the Seer, or else you could have found out...
     
  33. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    So much doubt has been sewn over previous days messages it is hard to know what to believe. Horace certainly alluded to the fact he was suss about Burnsy on Day 2, and I just don't understand why no link between today's message and the one naming wfcSinatra yesterday.

    You throw a link in there, always, if you're good and fortunate enough to be in a position to post viewing related messages on consecutive days?
     
  34. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Ok, and CB was named evil on the same day you named Sinatra as evil,

    It seems unlikely that CB is evil and you've not offered anything to counter that apart from vehement and passionate pleading.
     
  35. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Obviously when I say 'you' in the last sentence, I don't mean yourself moog, that is aimed at Burnsy!
     
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