New Star Wars film

I watched it today.

It was SHlT.

 

Agreed. ******* terrible.

 

It's really annoyed me.

It was almost as bad as watching Watford. That's how crap it was.

 

Nothing happened for the first half of it. So boring.

 

It had a few good bits, the first 15 minutes were good and the last 30 minutes were fine. Everything in the middle was a bit boring. I don’t think the director did a good job unfortunately, he was obviously given a start and end point and managed to make it all fit. However at points it felt hopelessly muddled.

I’m sure the next one will be better.

 

I know - where were the Ewoks? Where was Jar-Jar Binks?

 

I lost track after the ones with Ewan McGregor and the Lego ones.

Is this prequel, sequel or unrelated to the actual film Star Wars (or A New Hope as I refuse to call it)

 

It's as completely unrelated as it's possible to be with the same characters.

The codebreaker thief bloke reminded me of Marco Silva.

 

I very much enjoyed it.

 

I thought that it was ok, much better than episode 7, which wasn't difficult to do. At 2 hours 30 it was too long, the story could easily have been told in 45 fewer minutes and then the film wouldn't have felt like it dragged on a bit in the middle as other posters have said.

 

The first Star Wars film was the classic. Everything else afterwards has been to make money out of the fans and has been rank, (IMO).

 

I watched the first Star Wars film for the first time ever earlier this year. I found it a bit childish.

 

Decent final half an hour or so, but the rest of it was incredibly laboured.

Although I've always thought that Star Wars was overrated.

 

Anyone else never seen a single one of them? Just me then.

 

I agree 100%. Hollywood movie "franchises" are about building massive brands, selling merchandise and stretching the whole thing out so thinly it's ridiculous.

I don't follow Star Wars, Marvel or any of the others. Very few films are worthy of a sequel and still fewer of a series. Caddshack 2 and the National Lampoons Vacation Movies are the only exceptions I can think of.

When the motivation for filmmaking is purely to make money and not to make good films then I'll steer clear.

 

Didn't like it. A bit far fetched if you ask me.

 

I'm not surprised, the effects and stories now compared to back then you may as well be on a different planet. I watched the original Jaws recently and the shark scenes were quite funny, yet at the time they scared the bejeesus out of me.

 

In what way? Do you mean that it was aimed at kids? I certainly think that kids were a sizeable part of the intended audience for that first film, but that it was also aimed at adults just wanting a straightforward “goodie versus baddie” story too (I remember seeing a film poster which simply divided the characters into heroes and villains).

I think you might be judging a 1977 film by the standards of 2017 and a film which was aimed at that mixed audience by the standards of an adult.

Incidentally IMO Diamond is wrong. Empire Strikes Back is better. I agree it goes downhill after that (though I quite enjoyed The Force Awakens).

 

True, but these two volumes are really good (takes the story right up to the beginning of Ep III) - well worth the pennies.

Also, the other Clone Wars is pretty good - there's quite of lot of it and with so much there's a fair bit of dross but there's some really interesting stuff (especially the stories that focus on the Clone troopers) and the final 6th season (I've just noticed that it's not included in that box set).

 

Just back from the cinema, huge original Star Wars fan (except Return of the Jedi), my friend summed it up perfectly...Rian Johnson just raped my childhood.

Hated it.

 

Thought it was ok, but there was a fair amount of nonsense that was just unnecessary, particularly the whole casino bit.

The Empire Strikes Back remains my favourite film. Sufficiently dark.

 

You may be right that I was judging a 40 year old film by the standards of today, although certainly not the special effects, but there are many films much older than that which are still terrific today. The thing I don't get is why Star Wars, if aimed even partially at children at the time, is so revered by so many adults now.

 

Because they were kids when they first saw it?

 

Star Wars was a perfect little film. IMHO it was massive because it was a breakthrough in the way a science fiction film was made. I remember seeing the first trailer for it (at the Odeon watching the Spy Who Loved Me - I think) and it was like nothing I'd ever seen before. Then it had a Robin Hood adventure in the middle that was pure B movie, and everything came together very nicely. It is far from being my favourite movie, probably not even in my top 100, but I have a lot of affection for it because of what it achieved.

IMHO, practically every film after it has lived on the legend of the first film, including the Empire Strikes Back. The only two since Star Wars that I have enjoyed as films in their own right are 'Return' and Rogue One.

Never has an Emperor been so well dressed in his new clothes as when a new Star Wars film is released.

Lucas proved with the prequels that he could make unimaginable profit by filming himself pooping over a glass coffee table. Massively panned by practically everyone, but still massive successes. I can't take the series seriously, or believe anyone who says they are not influenced by the legend of that first film.

 

Think nostalgia plays a large role, but it's also a style that has aspects that appeals to young and old.

 

Watched it this week.

It was good I thought. But flawed for the reasons suggested already. So luke was training jedis, and one turned bad into a baddie,how do they come up with this stuff? I also spent the film trying to work out whose dad and mum was whose. And it has that walking dead mumble where you can't decipher if they say Ben or Ken. Otherwise mildly entertaining.

 

The best film I saw this holiday was this - it turns out the most influential sci-fi film ever made wasn't actually ever made... just lots of the big directors ripped-off stuff from Jodorowsky's storyboard (made into a book to tout his vision of the film to the studio executives) of his 14 hour epic. I've always felt (known?) that the masterpiece that is Lucas's "Willow" was an early draft of the Star Wars script - I now wonder whether "Willow" was the Star Wars script before Lucas saw/read the Jodorowsky treatment for "Dune"?

 

When Netflix, Amazon, HBO, etc keep knocking out good and original series the cinema will become more and more of an irrelevance. Currently I pay about £7 or £8 per month to watch an unlimited amount of stuff on Netflix and it's used in varying amounts by everyone in my house. To go to the cinema is over £11 each for a few hours and extortionate prices for refreshments.

 

I watched star wars for the first time a few years ago, watched all of them in order over a week or so.

I thought all of them were terrible, and I really don't see why they are so popular. I'm watching the new one today, so we will see how that goes.


I did the same with Lord of the Rings four or five years ago as I hadn't seen those, and thought they were all pretty fantastic.

 

Star wars needs to be put into context.

Episode IV (Chronologically 1) A New Hope was ground breaking. Looking back now it's cheesy and the effects even in the tarted up versions are a bit naff but as an all round package is a great film.
Episode V (Chronologically 2) The Empire Strikes Back is arguably the best of the first 3. Ties the story together and progresses the characters, suffers a bit because it was made with Episode VI (Cronologically 3) Return of the Jedi in mind to complete the trilogy. Jedi was a bit over commercialised but it needed to be done to complete the story.

Episode I ( Chronologically 4) The Phantom Menace suffered from George Lucas's orgasms over new technology. A part from the pod racing scences which are excellent, the kid is annoying and the less said about Binks the better. Darth Maul had potential to be bigger than Vader imho.
Episode II (Chronologically 5 ) Attack of the Clones is a bit style over substance for me. Acting is very wooden.
Episode III (Chronologically 6) Is for me the best of the modern ones, possibly approaching Empire in quality.

Back on track chronologically
Episode VII The Force Awakens I felt was OK, nothing more. Wasn't really needed and I feared the worst when it was announced.
Episode VIII The Last Jedi. Not seen it yet ad having purchased 3 different versions of the original trilogy on varying formats and seeign them in the cinema at least once each I've decided I'm waiting till it's on Sky movies.

Rogue One I thought was very good. For me that should have been Episode III
Looking forward to the Han Solo Film. Ron Howard is an excellent director.

 

The basic storyline of the prequels was OK, but could have done without the kiddy element by introducing Jar Jar; a lot of wooden acting by Portman and Christensen made them into poor films. I agree that Episode III was the best of those. Given that Episode I was released 22 years after Episode IV, it stood to reason that the vast majority of interest would have been people in their mid-20s and upwards therefore I think those films should have been a lot darker than they were.

Episode VII was a waste of time as it was almost a rewrite of Episode IV but with a different generation, they should have been a bit more original. Episode VIII was better than VII but at 2h30m was about 45m too long for the story that was being told.

 

There is a version of I somewhere which has Binks edited out.

 

On reflection, The Last Jedi is the worst of all the Star Wars movies. Whilst I deeply dislike the prequels, at least Lucas tried to create three distinct movies with an attempt at a compelling storyline. Albeit with some disastrous results.

Rian Johnson took a steaming dump over Star Wars as a whole, changing the characters not only from The Force Awakens but from the original trilogy too. Whilst I won't get into spoilers as some on here haven't seen it (and I wouldn't bother), there is no logical reasoning for many of things that happen.

Spoiler light description of a couple of those things:-

Flying in space
Ridiculously unbelievable Jedi behaviour
Force Powered Facetime
A Earth style casino in a galaxy far, far away.

Some comments I've read have said that it had a feminist agenda because of Kathleen Kennedy. I don't know about that, all I know is that it was just so boring. Nothing interesting happened at all. I honestly thought at points that it was all a big joke.