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Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by hornmeister, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Knowing Hamilton he probably wanted to clinch the title by winning but well done on a 5th World title.

    Ricciardo not getting any luck - he will hope for more at Renault!
     
  2. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    We'll done to Lewis for a pretty much flawless season. I really cannot remember him making a mistake.

    He did not have the fastest car for most races this season but his amazing qualifying performances, skilled management of tyres and incredible consistency made it easy in the end.

    It's amazing to think that if it wasn't for an awful call in the wet all those years ago, and some incredibly unlucky reliability problems two years ago, Lewis would (and should) be equal with Schumacher on titles won.
     
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  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Well he is going from hitting drivers with his car to actually pushing them now.
     
  5. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Spectacular crash in the Formula 3 in Macau today.

    17yo driver alive, for those who like to know before watching vids...

     
  6. scummybear

    scummybear Reservist

    That's one of the worst crashes I've seen! Sounds like she was a lucky girl, if she didn't hit the wall backwards it might've been a head impact.

    Watching in slow motion it looks like she's spun off camera and is travelling down the wall backwards, then hits the blue kerb which lifts her up enough to get a glancing blow on the second car and launch skywards. A bit of delving and I've found a photo of a blue banana kerb in that exact spot:
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    Perhaps this will mean a change in the way they're used?
     
  7. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

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  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Williams do need a good news story and before his accident Kubica was a very good driver .

    Good luck to him !
     
  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Another good win from Hamilton to sign off this season's F1. Nasty crash with Hulkenberg . He was trapped upside-down with his car catching fire. Thankfully the stewards were on hand quickly to dowse the flames. The halo looked like it would have trapped him. Disaster averted.
     
  10. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

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  11. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

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  12. Merc builds another monster

    Ferarri and Vettel looked shell shocked
     
  13. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/48577539

    What an absolute pr1ck Sebastian Vettel is. Such a precious child in his behaviour. Can't stand the bloke.

    So please he got the 5 second penalty and it was totally deserved. He made a mistake, came back on to the track and deliberately drove into Hamilton to close the gap, so he couldn't overtake. It was dangerous driving. The only surprise is that most of the F1 community think it was a harsh punishment.

    I saw it the same as the stewards.

    Vettel initially refused to take the podium but was forced to do so by his team as he would have been demoted even further down the field had he not done so. He refused to drive his car into the positional pit, he even got out on the track and pushed it backwards. Then he marched over to where Hamilton's car was and swapped the numbers making Hamilton's car number 2, and his car, which was in fact an empty place, number 1. Then in his interview he just walked away as he was being questioned. What a c***.

    Such utter petulance. I see Ferrari are appealing, but I hope Vettel gets further punishments over his appalling behaviour.
     
  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  15. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Agreed. Vettel is completely hung up over the "what else was I supposed to do?" line. But this isn't a question of whether he had any choice or not over what he did. This is simply a reflection of the fact that he made a mistake and Hamilton would have passed him had he not blocked him off when coming back onto the track. Whether he did well or not in getting back on the track is irrelevant. The penalty is to reflect the fact that he blocked off Hamilton who would have passed him. He can't possibly think that that would go unpunished ?
     
  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Absolutely, and it seemed clear and obvious what Vettel did even when I watched it in real time. I just really surprised that Vettel has received such universal support and the stewards have been damned for their penalty award. The commentators thought the penalty was wrong and so did all the ex-drivers who were interviewed afterwards.

    I just think it's more to do with the love-in for Ferrari or the desire to make the season a little bit more interesting, that's making people condemn the stewards.

    The only thing that should be in focus and talked about is Vettel's petulant behaviour. That should not be tolerated.
     
  17. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

  18. It looked like an attempt to block to me at the time. Clear penalty, according to the rules, for not leaving a car width to his right.

    I don't accept the ‘what else could he do’ argument; simple, lift off, steer left, allow rooms. He had the snap oversteer coming back on the track because he kept the throttle open.
     
  19. scummybear

    scummybear Reservist

    Even I think that under the current rules, that's a penalty. I don't buy into the idea that he was closing the door intentionally - the potential for a big crash was too high, especially without full grip. But, Hamilton had to hit the brakes due to somebody else's error through no fault of his own.

    That said, F1 is way too reliant on penalties. I can't think of any series that is so strict. It's like when you have a referee who gives a free kick every 2 minutes, sometimes you need to let the game flow.

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  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I suspect Vettel and Ferrari would have been calling on a penalty had the incident by the other way round...
     
  21. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Regardless of deliberate or not and theres's debate about being able to control the car when on the grass and coming back onto the track, I thought there was a rule that you couldn't go off the track to gain or retain a place that you otherwise wouldn't have? Loads of times we've seen people give up positions and let people reovertake when they've pulled a dodgy move.

    Seb has previous, the Azerbaijan shunt for example. I'm no Hamilton fan but justice was done. The commentators are biased because they just wanted to see racing and Hamilton going for an overtake. If Hamilton hadn't have braked they both would have been out. Seb is lucky imho. Throwing a strop at the end should land him a nice fine equivalent to his personal winnings for the race.
     
  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Funny what rain does ..

    Turns the race into a wacky slippy one !
     
  23. Mercedes had one to forget
     
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  24. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    They had a complete flap when Lewis came in after his prang just outside the pits. Not so much they didn't have everything lined up, I get that, but the fact they seemed to have no plan to quickly deploy the necessary tyres/crew to do it. Still, they looked great in their fancy dress as they produced a 1920s slapstick pit stop.
     
  25. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    As they say in football probably cannot wait for the next race !
     
  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Not all bad for Hamilton - pushed up to 9th so he actually increases his lead!
     
  27. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    It was a bad day at the office for Mercedes. They've been pretty immaculate before then though. A bad decision on the initial tyre change. Lewis didn't want to do it, but he was called in. Once the slicks were on it all unravelled. The rest of the race went from him because of that bad team decision.
     
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

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  30. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    A familiar pattern in these fatalities. Alesi junior spun off some cars went wide. Hubert rebounded off the barrier and then was T-boned by Correa at tremendous speed. The shell of his car was intact but the kinetic energy transfer enormous. Unsurvivable. Correa is in intensive care.

    https://www.autosport.com/f2/news/145687/hubert-dies-of-injuries-after-spa-f2-crash

    Highly regarded by all and in line for a call up to Renault over the next couple of years. These sort of incidents are the ones sadly which are still out there and killers. All too often in NASCAR.
     
  31. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    In happier news Leclerc gets his first win ..
     
  32. Well that was a **** up
     
  33. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member


    The halo saved his life. Correa remains in intensive care after last weeks tragic events.
     

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