Cricket

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by wfc4ever, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    So he was within 320 runs of his total?
     
  2. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    About 3600.

    Cook ticks over at 900-1000 per annum.

    By far the youngest of the recent greats (Sanga/Punter/Kallis/Dravid) to call it a day.
     
  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes I was being sarcastic given his recent form :)
     
  4. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    I wouldn't blame Root, i think this has been a long decision and in a way I don't think Cook has really recovered from some of the flack he got when he was captain. I fear Root is suffering in the same way Cook did, and we'll only appreciate him when he's retired as well.

    Whilst we've had some outstanding achievements since 2005 it doesn't feel like our captains are the ones to have stood up and sought to salvage the situation in the way Ponting did or Kohli has (albeit unsuccessfully). It feels like our victories/runs have come from a player who later becomes captain almost by default. Not that I'm taking anything away from what was achieved, all I mean is being England captain seems to be a poison chalice.
     
  5. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    In a way that’s a relief.

    Sawyer is inspiring this forum to soar, statistically, & the last thing we need is the deadweight of an innumerate albatross acting as a millstone.
     
    Happy bunny likes this.
  6. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    It’s certainly the toughest playing job in English sport.

    Everyone is scathed by it.

    My observation is that Root is hopelessly out of his depth. Not his fault & you wouldn’t turn down the invitation. But he’s never captained a team & has a boyish lack of authority.

    His first pick for his Ashes tour was his mother. Then his father. Then his former flat mate, Ballance who, of course, never played.

    Nice guy. Soft boy.
     
    iamofwfc and Happy bunny like this.
  7. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Because the captain has such an important role on and off the field he has to be somebody undroppable, i.e. the best player. But the best player isn't necessarily a good captain, and even if he is, the added burden of captaincy may mean that he stops being the best player. It takes somebody special to overcome those odds. Or else you pick somebody like Brearley who wasn't much of a player but was worth his place for his captaincy skills alone
     
    iamofwfc likes this.
  8. iamofwfc

    iamofwfc Squad Player

    Keep an eye on duckett, just signed for Notts, has much natural ability and when he gets his hand injury sorted 100% and stays off the sauce a bit more will be a great opener for Engalnd in all three forms of the game.. He was given a chance a few years ago and blew it, the move to Notts will make him or break him, a very modern batsmen in the mould of the Aussie openers during their golden generation when they dominated all forms of the game. As for cook, was lucky enough to see him make his debut in India and looked special then, top bloke top pro and can understand why he is going, hope he gives Essex a few more years of service.
     
    Aberystwyth_Hornet likes this.
  9. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    So who, if not Root? There’s no obvious candidate in the current Test team, for me. And I’m not sure anyone leaps out from county cricket either.
     
  10. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I agree. It's a bugger
     
  11. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I once scored 47 with the cat fielding at mid off and my brother Laurence coming in from his long run*.
    Am I in with a chance?!
    *He started his run just before Miss Brice's sweet shop,down Mount Pleasant Lane.
     
  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    We have won the series, so a great chance to give a few new batsmen a chance in a relatively low pressure game, against tourists already thinking about the flight home. But no, we go with the same batsmen. What happens if Jennings now hits a 50 ? Do we then take him on tour and play him throughout the winter ? Must be so demoralising for some of the county players deserving of a chance eg Burns. They could have easily told Bairstow to give his finger a rest (which must surely prey on his mind when batting) and rested Jennings while ostensively "giving a back-up opener a chance". I expect Cookie anticipated being dropped so decided to retire to retain a bit of pride and have the chance to say goodbye a la Flintoff. Weak management.
     
  13. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    White ball, red ball or tennis ball ? This is important.
     
  14. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Brearley ? He didn't score runs when he captained before so his current form wouldn't be an issue.
     
    Keighley likes this.
  15. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Tie!
     
  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  17. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    The player with the most successful red ball captaincy experience is Burns from Surrey.

    Still looks 18 but is now 28.

    Morgan to do a Rashid & suddenly remember he's a red baller once an olive branch is offered?

    The benefit to Root's runs would subsidise the potentially low contribution from our Irish colleague.

    The best captain is still Nasser.
     
  18. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Runners-up again I fear. Still, the title had already gone, IMO.

    On England captaincy, I think Burns is a reasonable shout. He's a notoriously tough leader. And speaks good German.

     
  19. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Especially, as half the Surrey team should soon be playing for England: Curran, Curran, Pope, Foakes.
     
  20. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    I don’t know what’s worse Surrey or Somerset winning! As a Middlesex fan I should say Surrey, but some of the bile spouted by Somerset fans towards Middlesex in recent seasons has unfortunately put me off them a little as well!
     
  21. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Ah yes. Foakes, Woakes and Stokes. Together at last.

    Maybe Dyche can persuade Sam Vokes to switch codes too?
     
  22. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    The feeling's mutual m8. :D
     
  23. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    Thought you might say that!
     
    Keighley likes this.
  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    John Noakes?
     
  25. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Dead m8.

    Would still score more runs than Keaton Jennings.
     
  26. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes I know. Maybe Noakes' folks?
     
  27. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Are these jokes? Or a hoax?
     
  28. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    In the field, he could be leaned against the square leg umpire.

    Batting more problematic without a runner.
     
  29. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Bill Boaks.
     
  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Will Cook reach 100 - bound to happen isn't it?
     
  31. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Unlikely, as he's out.
     
  32. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Jinxed that - maybe have to wait for the final innings or take the final match winning catch?

    Root gone too - start of the collapse...
     
  33. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Bairstow out.
     
  34. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Just some random blokes.
     
  35. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Carnage. We have zero batsmen who can defend against a seaming/swinging ball. We used to be the only national side who could....what happened ? We only got to 130 odd with minimal disruption as Ali wasn't good enough to touch the ball every time he tried to.
     

Share This Page