Watford Fc 3-2 Cardiff - 15/12/2018

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by BigRossLittleRoss, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    She was useless at headers though.
     
  2. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    On the day the referee often reacts to the force of the tackle, irrespective of whether the foot is high or connects with the ball. This is what they now see as an ‘out of control’ tackle, which is now outlawed and results in a card, often a red one. This is what happened with Capoue and I believe the authorities subsequently supported the ref’s decision because of that.

    The Deeney challenge yesterday was just two players sliding into each other without extra force and that’s how the ref rightly saw it, despite what Colin and his Philippino henchman might think.
     
  3. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

    oooooooo! I had thought about saying as much but didn't dare :)
     
  4. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I don't care what the technicalities are. Capoue's tackle was clean, fair and did not hurt the opposition one iota. Deeney slid in with studs high and into the keepers' keepers!! Clearly this was the worse of the two.

    I think sometimes incidents are far too technically analysed. To the layman, there was absolutely nothing wrong with Capoue's tackle. Deeney, while not reckless, was a bit naughty. I got the impression he deliberately left his studs high, just to "leave a bit on him", as Deeney would phrase it.
     
  5. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    And it's his past comments saying such thing that for any other player would result in no retrospective action (it was a yellow at worse) but for him will probably result in a career ending ban
     
  6. Roger Irrelevant

    Roger Irrelevant Reservist

    I thought the ref was excellent. Gave virtually nothing either way and single handedly screwed up Warnock's set piece tactics.

    Their goalie is very good too. Rest of them are useless. Amazed they have won 4 games.
     
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  7. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Were you carpeted as a result ?
     
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  8. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange

    Got to be honest , I don’t think Doucoure is that reliable, yes he has skill and lots of it , yes he could be world class , but at the moment he seems to give the ball a way an awful lot in really bad positions.

    Chalobah needs mins on the pitch and then will be fine , not sure about Cleveley running through treacle looked fine to me
     
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  9. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    S Times match report wastes half its space on this non story.
     
  10. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Only one fellow wearing a hat!
     
  11. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I thought Cleverley had a decent cameo. He brings such commitment, in the spirit of Mooney and Helguson.

    Once their winger was loose down their left wing, Cleverley chased him down and I knew he was either going to tackle or break his leg. He opted for the former, with a perfectly timed slide.
     
  12. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I always watched the oppo lino v closely. If he was a clear homer, I’d counterbalance that.

    I’d plainly have had my work cut out if I’d ever linoed Howard Webb at Old Trafford.
     
  13. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I always watched the oppo lino v closely. If he was a clear homer, I’d counterbalance that.

    I’d plainly have had my work cut out if I’d ever linoed Howard Webb at Old Trafford.
     
  14. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    So good you did it twice!
     
  15. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    If I were Warnock, I would blame the mods for that.
     
  16. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    I would blame the rockers!
     
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  17. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  18. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    You’re right although it’s ‘stone, Brother’.
     
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  19. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange


    Gerard Deulofeu: I've seen him score superb goals previously for Everton and you don't play for Barcelona unless you are a gifted individual. Gerard Deulofeu is a very talented player indeed. The problem is you have to wait ages to see the occasional flash of genius from the Spain international, but when that inspiration emerges its always memorable. His goal against Cardiff was Maradona-esque and if this player could become a consistent performer instead of just a talented one, he'd be a sensational player.

    He would also be playing for Barcelona and not Watford.”

    I know the last bit is true - but really what kind of reaction does he think that would get + shows lack of respect for any team that’s not top 6 - ****

    But then again guess if he knew anything about football he would be managing not writing a shity column for the BBC
     
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  20. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

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  21. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    It's the same put down Merson used when Deulofeu put a free kick straight over the bar at Leicester. He said "that's why he's at Watford". F***ing c***.
     
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  22. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  23. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    #ignorethetoad
     
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  24. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    WTF does Holebas have to do to get people like you off his back!!!

    He is far from being a bad player, in fact I would put him in at least our top 5 players for POT or even higher than that.
     
  25. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I bet he’s scored more FF points than any WFC player, ever.

    The most goals/assists of any defender this season. In the Prem.

    This man is a coiled miracle.

    The RC of our starting eleven.
     
  26. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    It's because of a couple of his indiscretions he has had in the past, the same with Gray if he scored a hat trick you would get people moaning saying he should have scored 6! Some fans never forget!
     
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  27. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I’d be glad to be proved wrong but I predict that, if Gray scores a hat trick, it won’t be in the Premier League.
     
  28. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I honestly thought the ref got it right with Deeney's slide for the ball with their keeper.

    It was a cute ball laid through for him and one he had to chase with everything he'd got (shame he wasn't a bit quicker!). Once he'd gone for the ball and started sliding, the wet pitch meant he couldn't stop - you could see the spray coming up. It looked to me that as it became obvious he wasn't going to be first to the ball, he ceased to go for it full-blooded and pulled his leading foot up and away from making full contact with the keeper. I'm not sure what else he could do.

    Also notice how Etheridge immediately jumped to his feet as the ball continued in play, but then did a dying swan once the ref blew. So not very injured then...

    Deeney might be tough and physical but I'm pretty sure he's not the type to deliberately try and injure another player.
     
  29. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I don't like the man very much, but you're right he's having a much better season than many thought possible.

    However, surely you'd have to agree that our long throws into the box have had a zero return for a very long time? It's perhaps not entirely Holebas' fault - the 'flicker-on' is obviously not winning his dual with their defender in many cases.

    A long throw into the box ought to be nearly as good as a corner or FK in dangerousness, but at the moment it doesn't seem to be working for us and instead is leading to counter-attacks straight up the other end.
     
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  30. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Re. Our passing in front of the defence in the first half, I felt it it was due in part to the fact Deeney always lays the ball back, and never runs beyond the defence.

    This allowed them to push up without worrying about getting turned and beaten for pace.

    Just a couple of balls over into the space behind might have helped... And maybe Success on to chase them.
     
  31. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    Our long throws are as good as our corners :rolleyes:
     
  32. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    The best example of damning with faint praise this year!
     
  33. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    To be fair one of the keeper’s pills was nearly jettisoned from his sack and nestled into the net. I think the delayed pain is well known in this scenario considering he was on his haunches staring at the penalty spot for 3 minutes after!
     
  34. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    Our general attacking play has been good this season in and around the box, but our delivery into the box to create a goal scoring opportunity has not been the same standard. We very rarely create an attempt on goal from our corners, free kick and throw ins around the box.
     
  35. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Champions League ?
     

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