Isaac Success

Discussion in 'Former Players Archive' started by UpUpAndAway, Oct 2, 2016.

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Success in or out

  1. In

    47.7%
  2. Out

    52.3%
  1. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I'm happy to translate.

    Firstly Iggy says somewhat enigmatically: "Don't waste your breath talking to people who really deserve to be cold-shouldered"

    Then he says to Success: "I'm an awfully long way away now, old chap. I do hope you're able to excel in your football back over there. I'm missing you!"

    Success replies: "I miss you too old fellow! I'll definitely be giving it my all. Today we've been out for a run. You know how the coach is - he'd like to turn us into the Italian national team. Ha ha ha ha ha."

    Hope that clears it up for everyone.
     
  2. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Savage words.
     
  3. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

  4. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I didn't realise you were so posh, bruv. Next thing, you'll be applying for membership of the Metropolitan Elite.
     
  5. Watfordfc1

    Watfordfc1 Academy Graduate

    Perfectly normal thanks not one that goes in for picking holes in every post Watford players put online but saying the coach wants to turn the team into the Italian National Team and then deleting the comment makes it pretty clear what he meant.
     
  6. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    the Italian national team is better than England so it's a yes from me
     
  7. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    What did he mean m8?
     
  8. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Success should remain an impact sub, as he does not seem to have the stamina for 90 mins, plus so far he has been rather injury prone, therefore I think that position might be ideal for him.
     
  9. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    Isaac Success

    I can't for the life of me understand how Success hasn't got at least 45 mins of fitness in his legs. He's been back for about 6 weeks now. Why hasn't he played for u23s to build up his fitness ? 15 min cameos are not going to help him get fit. Surely he must be on a special fitness plan. I appreciate young players need to be looked after, but really, if he has a worse injury than we are being told, one that needs to be managed, then why risk him on the bench at all if he can't play at his full potential.

    Also he bottled it last night in the final seconds and should have scored rather than turning his back wondering if the keeper would hit him. I know he is young but I thought that was poor from the lad.
     
  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I don't think Wally trusts him or thinks he's mentally disciplined enough. As a pure attacking outlet he's a great option, probably the best at the club, but I've seen little from him yet in his cameos to suggest he's much use at holding up the ball or helping the team defend when out of possession. And as you say his cowardly flinch at the end yesterday won't help.
     
  11. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    I think it's more a case of Wally worrying about his recent injuries. He'll ease him in slowly rather than risk him breaking down again. He's had the option to do so recently due to a near fully-fit squad. As much as I'd like to see him start games it seems sensible to me.
     
  12. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    I really don't get this succession of 10 minute cameos for Success throughout the season. Is the bloke fit or not? If he is fit he should surely be getting 30 minutes plus at least. In fact, why not start? I really like him. He spells 'danger' more than N'Diang.

    In what way would a 21 y.o. not be 'fit' to do at least 30 mins unless he's carrying a specific injury in which case why is he on the bench at all?
     
  13. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I think and hope that yesterday's limited game time was due to the injuries to Zarate and Janmaat and Walt not risking it until 80 minutes.

    Having said that I still can't fathom how he missed that chance and I was right behind it!
     
  14. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    I agree that tactically he is found wanting and has often left our fullbacks exposed - surely additional match practice is needed to help him - I just don't understand why he isn't playing in u23 team. I think we all agree he is a huge threat going forward but it appears wally may have decided that this season will be cameos only ... although who fills zarates position ? I had high hopes for Doucoure but he isn't good enough to start in my opinion.
     
  15. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I assume you have an example of when he has 'often left our fullbacks exposed' and that you aren't just churning a football cliché without any real basis.
     
  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I love the way this guy plays. It's a pure joy to see him on the pitch running with the ball.

    I don't consider that miss a bottle job. I think he just misjudged the ball. It was a frustrating miss, but nothing to do with bottle....IMO.
     
  17. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    I think Any anti- Isaac success posts should be banned.
     
  18. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    If we carry on picking up injuries like this he'll get a start soon anyway. The way Wet Spam were snapping at our midfielders heels last night I can completely see why he didn't come on earlier.
     
  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    12 months and we'll all be praying that someone from China will buy him.
     
  20. Rookery Refugee

    Rookery Refugee Reservist

    Amrabat will be back. I'm not a 4-4-2 person, but would love to see Succcess paired with Deeney, Niang and Amrabat outside and Cleverley Capoue/Behrami inside. If Isaac's leg falls off, it falls off. Bring on someone else.
     
  21. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    I'm very pro Success - and would love to see him play more - but defensively he can be found wanting - which he will learn - I think that's why Walter isn't giving him too much game time - I would hate to see his attacking threat curbed - maybe tactically we need toadjust to accommodate him

    Next season we will hopefully have a fully fit front 5 of Success, niang, pereyra, Zarate and deeney - that will scare the life out of lots of teams
     
  22. It won't scare the life out of anyone if the tactical plan next year is carry on thumping it long to Deeney
     
  23. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Isaac Success has been at fault for at least 32 of the goals we've conceded this season and his 7 own goals and 12 red cards is a league high and shows how he's letting the side down.

    He has a lot to learn before he can play every week.
     
  24. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    It wasn't just the chance at the end yesterday that he bottled. His mind wasn't in it, even before he cowed out of that golden chance at the end.

    It was every time he got the ball. He had about six chances to be aggressive and he was cowardly each time, timidly losing the ball.

    I would guess he is having some psychological difficulties from his injuries, and he is being protected by Walt. If that performance yesterday told us anything, it is that Isaac is not yet ready- whether emotionally or physically, to make an impact.
     
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  25. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Hahahaha
     
  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Might have to play a bit more now!
     
  27. King Dev

    King Dev Squad Player

    He was absolutely awful when he came on yesterday.
     
  28. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    Are people seriously having a pop at him when he's given 8-10 minute spells at the end of a match? He needs a run in the team to be judged
     
  29. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    He's clearly talented but also a bit precious it seems.
     
  30. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Hope he doesn't end up as another Berahino.
     
  31. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    Noooooooh
     
  32. J.B

    J.B First Team

    What is that supposed to mean?
     
  33. Lionel Fessi

    Lionel Fessi First Year Pro

    FML. The biggest load of horse **** I have ever read. So he didn't set the world alight in the 10 mins he was on the pitch? And he missed a good chance? And he didn't beat his man like he Normally does. 10 ****ing minutes he was on the pitch ....And you come to that conclusion?

    Some of our fans are a ****ing joke.
     
  34. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Calm down and stop being so emotional.

    He bottled out of a number of 50-50s. Every 50-50 he had.

    He was timid. It was different from a player who is unconfident. He was scared, and thoroughly unprepared to step on the pitch and make an impact.

    The more minutes we give him since he has come back from his latest injuries, the worse he looks. Don't act like 'Let's give him more minutes then' is clearly the only option.
     
  35. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Use your imagination, although I accept it is probably very difficult for you.
     

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