Bayat? Perfectly normal if he is, considering he presumably doesn't have any specific role with your company either.
On a completely unrelated point - does anyone wonder how we got through Covid financially as a club? Surely our links to an agent that is treated no different to any others despite his links to ‘iffy money’ and the various murky issues around shell companies couldn’t have anything to do with it? Wait, of course not. It’s not published fact and that’s all we should be debating here.
Wwwwwhhhhhaaaaatttttt ? PS I think all 92 clubs "got through covid" didn't they ? Did iffy Bayat save us .....and the other 91 clubs too ?
Guy asks for ‘a hint, a clue…’ and is provided with one. Colour me shocked that it wouldn’t be enough and the deflection and rebuttals would continue. Also, given that I didn’t even post this in any kind of reply to you, and you’ve jumped on it, it’s probably time you did the decent thing and apologise to HB1 seeing as you’re engaging in the very thing you hounded him for. (I don’t require a response - it’s pretty clear that you never own your own behaviours so ‘agree to disagree’)
OK I didn't realise this was a hint and still not sure how Bayat would have saved/helped us or why we'd need his help but appreciate the thought. I didn't hound HB1 ? I liked his posts. Well most of them . I saw others gave him a hard time though,
Well if supposedly Bayat saved the club during covid then shouldn't we all rather be thankful that Gino has a relationship with him, rather than 5h1tting on it at the slightest opportunity?
I didn't suggest he 'saved' the club. I suggested someone may have helped us through the mire - as someone else said earlier, all others clubs survived too, so I guess you can draw your own thoughts as to whether we should have (allegedly) taken funds from a certain individual and tied ourselves to them as a result to this day - or just done what the other 91 clubs did. *assuming the other 91 clubs were unlikely to get involved with such a character. I'm really not going to comment on this matter further for the good of the forum's owner and mods. But I'm being fairly obvious that this stinks to high heaven and I know it does. If people still want to think its fine, or look the other way, purely because the smoking gun isn't being shown, crack on.
Then I'll just slightly re-phrase my initial comment to: "Well if supposedly someone who might have a similar name to By@ helped out the club during covid, then shouldn't we all rather be thankful that Gino has a relationship with them, rather than 5h1tting on it at the slightest opportunity?" We don't know what all the other clubs did though and what measures they took. But it's a good thing given our current league position that we've not faced any points deductions for financial issues as quite a few clubs have.
Well what's the point in panicking about such a thing when doom-mongers have been trying to claim it could be on the card for years but nothing has come to pass?
I want to say that this thread has been an interesting read, but I can’t really. Lots of back and forth, which gets a bit boring. But I think we can probably all agree that Mogi Bayat is a cancerous little creature, and it would have been a wonderful thing if Pozzo had recognised that from the start, and had very little to do with him. But, sadly for Watford FC, that wasn’t and isn’t the case. Anyway. I don’t know what others think, but I do have a fondness for Troost, and I found his interview with the Wob quite interesting. He retains a respect for Pozzo, based on the fact that he’s known him since his Udinese days, and feels he can talk straight with him. But there’s a lot of unsavoury stuff going on that caused WTE to want to get out. He said he didn’t trust the club anymore. So even if he didn’t want to lay the blame on Pozzo, we all know that he’s ultimately responsible for the culture. I found WTE something of a mixed bag. His mistakes were costly, and I didn’t find the Brentford game easy to swallow. In fact I was properly pi$$ed at him for that one, and I didn’t recover. But there was a lot of good about him and he looked to be a good influence. And under Bilic, I remember thinking he was looking like a proper player. Maybe his underlying love for the club, and his desire to live the rest of his life in Hertfordshire, will see him back at Watford in some capacity. Definitely the right kind of presence to have in the club.
I don't think it's fair to compare TuT with HB1. Although TuT is continuing to argue his view against a seemingly opposing majority he has not repeatedly called people names, repeatedly implied he is better than other people, the only one who can see the truth (appreciate the irony of his user name), derailed repeated match threads, accused people of having multiple accounts etc etc. It's very different from HB1. I'd suggest TuT has shown restraint in the face of provocation in this thread as he's been needlessly called names such as a troll and a nasty piece of work, but too his credit he doesn't seem to have risen to the bait. Appreciate people won't agree with his views and that can be frustrating but it may be that some of us could learn from TuT in this thread about how to express alternative views in a less adversarial manner. I found it particularly touching that Moog and TuT expressed strong differences of opinion but in end could put these aside to bond in their mutual love of air fryers. It reminded me of the WW1 christmas football match in No Man's land and provides hope for us all that maybe we can overcome our differences if we remember our many similarities.
In terms of our views on the ownership and club, etc, I'm generally pretty opposingly aligned to you and TuT, and I'm completely and vocally aligned with posters like GD, Burnsy, Jumbo, etc. Having just caught up on 6 pages of this thread after being away for a few days , I find TuT's insistence here on refusing to allow the drawing of logical conclusions from the myriad circumstantial and other evidence, stretching back years, that we do have available to us and has previously been discussed many times on here, strange to the point of being in danger of appearing disingenuous in a way he usually doesn't to anything like the same degree. That all being self-indulgently laid out, I do strongly agree with large parts of this post.
https://www.cyprusbbq.co.uk/products/cyprus-rotisserie-bbq-large-blue I was kidding - maybe you were too ?!!
I'd never heard of it so googled it. But yes i was effectively repeating the same joke as yours which I had missed. Anyway this is making me hungry......
https://www.hbvl.be/cnt/dmf20240506_94731837 Obbi Oulare is suing Bayat for €300k (and Bayat is counter-suing Oulare for €500k)
This vile piece of work has to have his reputation in the bin in the football world. Any youngster with a bright future will surely be instructed to stay away from working with him and joining Watford. Gino has got to part ways. Between Bayat and Giaretta getting in bed with Gino our decline has been astronomical. Gino rightly takes the blame as he is the owner at the end of the day, but if he wants to get Watford back in the Prem, that won’t happen aslong as Bayat is around.
Presume Oulare is suing Bayat for being an uncaring financial leech, and Bayat is suing Oulare for pretending to be a footballer ? I loved this piece "There's a goldcrest in the wallet. “You can take that literally." Presumably given the goldcrest is the smallest UK bird, that is not a huge fee. I'd have thought he'd be worth at least a blackbird and two robins.
Where does it say Bayat is the agent being sued? He's named as representing Watford, but the article makes out that it's someone else - who isn't named - that was representing Oulare... Maybe it's just a crappy translation?
