Tom Cleverley - Head Coach

No need to thank him.

 

Must admit I thought Mackay had done better than that. He did after all get Doyley to score a goal. I remember though that at the time people were happy with him as manager, and upset when he went to Cardiff, in a manner not dissimilar to his predecessor.

 

I think people were more upset with the way he poached players from us once he had left, e.g. using inside knowledge of Cowie’s contract situation, rather than actually leaving. People understood why someone would want to leave given the state of the club at the time.

 

I see a lot of comments about "lack of ambition" and "cheap option" but given our prospects for next season will be no better than a Preston, Millwall, Cardiff, Bristol, Swansea etc I can't imagine too many managers with any sort of recent sucess would be queuing up to come and manage us, given our lack of funds and history of brief manager tenures. We aren't the pull we once were.

 

Mackay's management was pretty much done by Dyche.

 

Dyche did incredibly well to get us to 11th, as he only took 6 points from his opening 13 matches in charge.

I remember it being a thoroughly miserable time, but then suddenly out of the blue everything clicked into place and we went on a terrific run.

Had the season run for another month, we might even have sneaked into the play-offs.

Ultimately Pozzo got rid of a manager who’d lost only 1 of his last 13 matches in charge for us.

The die was already cast back then!

 

I do hope he gets more games as permanent manager than as interim manager. If he doesn’t, what will it say about those that appointed him?

 

Good luck Tom.
We all know you will need it, quite a large amount of it.

 

So back to the good ol' pre-Pozzo days, just as plenty of posters on here were crying out for.

 

Somewhat of an oxymoron this statement isn’t it.

 

You clearly don't know what the word oxymoron means.

Perhaps what you were trying to get at is the fact that Pozzo is of course still here, but based on what you'd said in your earlier post, if you just focus on what's on the pitch and in the dugout then it's precisely the pre-Pozzo era mid-table Championship wilderness and English ex-pro manager in the dugout that plenty on here were dreaming of for years while we had been attempting to stay up in the PL.

 

Check ignition and may God’s love be with you.

 

Incorrect. Lots of people want Pozzo out of the club, hence pre-Pozzo, being as **** as we were before he took over, but him still running the show isn’t what people want, it’s just about the worst outcome possible.

Who in their right mind wants us to be as **** as possible, without an owner change?

Saying people are happy being back to pre-Pozzo levels with Pozzo still in charge is the definition of an oxymoron.

 

Warnock in an advisory role wouldn't be a terrible move.
Much like Keith Burkenshaw was to Ade Boothroyd.

 

Not really - because evidently you can also be at pre-Pozzo levels with Pozzo in charge.

Plus there were enough posters on here during our last Championship promotion season, and then the subsequent relegation season, who weren't that bothered about Pozzo as an owner, but who had stronger opinions on not caring about being in the PL because supposedly being battered by Man City was no fun and the Champ was more enjoyable. There have also been plenty of complaints about the revolving door of foreign journey-men managers. These issues are both ones which can be considered on their own merits.

 

I would think Warnock might be tough to work with as purely "an advisor" if you didn't fully take his advice/recommendation fully onboard 100% of the time. His personality is not really ideal for a #2. Burkinshaw was perfect - a softly spoken intelligent gentleman, as was Bertie Mee with GT.

 

If you need advice on how to the job, then maybe you’re not the right person to do the job.

I hope TC will be his own man, and not be tempted to bring in a dinosaur of an assistant.

 

I also don’t quite compute how hiring a young English manager who has played for his country and played under some brilliant coaches, as well as playing for Manchester United under arguably the best manager to have ever lived, equals ‘lack of ambition’. It baffles me. Everyone starts somewhere and a club the size of ours is about right.

‘Cheap option’, yeah that’s fair on the surface. But you could argue we are lucky to have someone with the above pedigree already within. And the club has always gone with a cheap option anyway - we have only ever paid to take Edwards under the Pozzo ownership and that was a nominal amount.

Not shooting down peoples concerns and they are valid if they think Cleverley isn’t ready or likely to be good enough. I just don’t think ‘cheap option’ or ‘lack of ambition’ are true in my opinion.

 

It’ll be the same staff he has currently. I’ve been reasonably told as much. I don’t expect too much change, and certainly don’t expect a ‘dinosaur’ to come in.

We do need a whole new recruitment team though because Gino has sacked the whole last recruitment team.

 

You'll probably know more than me, but in the situation we're in, I don't think it was ever likely we'd attract a big name manager to take over, regardless of our ambition

 

There is absolutely no way Gino would entertain the idea of Warnock. No chance at all.

Given Warnock’s reputation is almost exclusively ‘relegation saviour’ and is based on the Championship, Gino would never swallow that pill…it would be tantamount to accepting his ownership has failed and PL is beyond us. And that is almost exclusively what he (misguidedly) feels we should have.

It’s the same for why Allardyce was never ever a name that has crossed Gino’s lips.

 

Just Nani and his mobile now, a phone which just has only one contact set up, "Udinese Reserves Coach"

 

Yes agreed.

 

I'd love to see Warnock give Pozzo the hairdryer treatment.

Probably cry and ring daddy.

 

If he can deal with Pearson, I imagine Warnock is child’s play.

 

But will we hire a recruitment team to find a new recruitment team?

 

Well, Gino has probably run out of foreign coaches who none of us have heard of, and maybe nobody of the calibre of Hodgson or Wilder is available.

 

I know some of the comments posted on this thread are tongue-in-cheek, or by those who have a pantomime act to keep up etc but…

For the first time under Mussolini and his ownership, we’ve made an internal appointment.

We’ve appointed a young British coach untainted by failure elsewhere.

An ex-player, generally well regarded in his spells with the club (except maybe towards the very end)

A person with good contacts in the game.

An eloquent and decent human being. One very determined and ambitious to succeed in his young and fledgling managerial career.

And an interim coach who has just come through a run of meeting 6 clubs all vying for promotion and lost only once and that in unfair circumstances.

There is so much to like here.

Open your eyes and stop moaning just for the sake of moaning!

 

Oh no, they're not.

 

This is the second time, actually.