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    Starting to really like Joe Joyce. Think he's a problem for almost everyone in the division.

    Walks though Joshua and Wilder in my opinion.
     
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    Wilder absolutely, Joshua still no.
     
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    No Fury Joshua fight says Tyson or is that just a ruse to get more money out of the fight ?
     
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    It's Fury absolutely conning the public as the biggest lying, bullsh*tter in sport, as per.
    Never had any intention of fighting Joshua and was always going to be fighting Charr, as rumoured before he suddenly called out AJ.

    Used Joshua and dangling the carrot of that fight for publicity and then desperately started trying to weasel out once Joshua called his bluff and agreed by putting ridiculous, needless deadlines on the signing of a contract which obviously isn't that simple. Now, shock horror, he's going back and forth with Charr - who is an absolute nobody - online. There is literally no other explanation other than he never wanted to fight Joshua and was always fighting Charr. Is that fight going to do even half as much for his legacy or bank balance as fighting Joshua? No, but he doesn't want it.

    A master manipulater with a brainwashed, cult like following who will believe every pile of crap that comes flying out of his mouth. Absolutely cannot stand the bloke.

    Still, was nice of him to give away that entire purse of his to the homeless that time...

    Oh...

    ...
     
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    Yeah, was a fan of Fury, admired his comeback story, and the fights with Wilder were entertaining but this silly persona thing is really wearing thin.

    Don't see how he can be the one putting deadlines on making these big fights, when he was one who has retired 5 times in the last 6 months. Stupid carry on.

    Feel like he'd be better off faffing around the WWE with Logan Paul and the likes.
     
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    Already hasn't done. Doesn't care about money, fame or material things, though...

    Which is weird considering he was posting his brand new Porsche earlier.
     
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    Has done, rather.
     
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    Waste of time if you ask me, nobody wants to see it.
     
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    Tyson Fury is an insufferable, lying, public conning **** head.
     
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    Joyce absolutely battered by a 40 year old Zhang.

    The bandwagon jumping casuals were actually spouting how he'd "sMaSh AJ" and cause Usyk and Fury problems.

    A big, slow, technically poor lump with a hard head, but who has now been shown capable of being hurt, which doesn't leave him with much.
     
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    Is it just me or do boxers seem way too old these days? I remember in his commentary, Harry Carpenter’s incredulity that Ali could regain the world title at 32.
     
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    Tyson Fury is the most overrated heavyweight in history, living off of a win against a past his best Klitschko eight years ago and besting a complete fraud in Deontay Wilder - a man who's reputation is built solely upon knocking out lowly ranked, handpicked nobodies - and tonight he almost certainly lost to a 38 year old MMA fighter who's never had a boxing fight in his life, and had to have the judges rig him a result to save his reputation and the fight against Usyk.

    Boxing is completely in the mud. An unbelievably corrupt, pathetic sport.
     
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    Honestly, the blurring between professional wrestling and boxing is pretty much complete.
     
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    Most of these fights seem to end with someone being unfairly “robbed”..

    The judging system is a real issue open to bias ?
     
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    Fast going down the road of the only boxing that’s watched is scripted ‘celebrity’ boxing like the disgrace of a show a few weeks ago.

    Last night was a comparable disgrace. After a great undercard fight (in a different arena) in Wardley, seeing the over the top ‘opening ceremony’, ex-pros and celebrities looking like automatons in the audience taking the money, the governing bodies and TNT Sports sucking up to the organisers was vomit inducing. To see my favourite boxer of all time Lennox Lewis try to claim that Fury won that fight was truly saddening.

    As for Fury, I couldn’t agree with you more. Bum of a fighter. I’m sure he’ll fight Joshua now he’s a spent force. After seeing him last night, I doubt he’d have got through 6 rounds against the prime Joshua of yesteryear. I’m sure the usual clapping seals that like Fury will claim different.

    Boxing is dying on its arse.
     
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    State of this sport man!
     
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    Dominant by AJ and Parker. The only question of the whole night was if Wilder could catch Parker with a massive hook.
     
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    As I've been saying for a good seven or eight years now, Wilder is a complete and utter fraud. A laughably one dimensional, stat padding, fraud who's never beaten anyone. Exposed again when there's not some handpicked doorman across the ring from him.

    That version of Joshua tonight was probably the best version we've ever seen of him. Finally knitted together his much improved footwork, head movement and defensive skills with his old aggression and desire to go and get people out of there.

    The fight won't happen now but Joshua would knock Wilder out cold within four or five rounds, and he knocks Fury out as well.
     
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    Running scared ?
     
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    We all knew this was coming. People have been calling it ever since the day they announced the fight. It was never going to happen. Fury is absolutely terrified of losing to Usyk and being exposed for the fraud that he is.

    One of the biggest conmen in the history of sport and probably the most overrated heavyweight of all time. Absolutely cannot stand the bloke or his insufferable, embarrassing dad.

    He's an absolute disgrace and anyone who still supports him needs their heads checking, and if you believe this isn't entirely intentional and engineered then I've got some spirit level bubbles to sell you
     
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    Does smell rather fishy
     
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    2 Questions.

    Do you not think the fight happens say, this year?

    If it does, who do you genuinely think wins?

    I'm not massive fan of Fury, but I do get amused at the conspiracy theorists (not saying you are) that just cant fathom that a boxer has got cut in sparing before a fight.

    I understand the general frustration at having to wait so long for this fight to finally get signed, and for this to happen 2 weeks out, but.. he was sparring, and he got caught with a freak elbow it seems. I don't believe there's conspiracy to deliberately get the fight postponed or cancelled. Usyk is very very good, but I don't believe Fury fears him any more than he should, and is looking for a way out of the fight.
     
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    I think Usyk wins. Usyk is a once in a generation talent. A pure boxer with phenomenal skill. Fury is living off a win against a past his prime Klitschko nine years ago and a trilogy with another huge fraud in Wilder, and has is coming off the back of a complete embarrassment against a non-boxer. The fact anyone thinks he's one of the best heavyweights of all time is so far beyond laughable it's mind boggling.

    The reason I can't fathom this is legitimate is because Fury has form for dodging fights and because there's been a lot of noise coming out of his camp that he's not looked himself and isn't ready. Conveniently he suddenly gets a bad cut and it's off. What a shock... The video that "leaked" of it supposedly happening, filmed on a potato, is hilarious too. It's 2024 and the footage of Fury getting cut was seemingly filmed on a 30 year old camcorder.

    He and has family have turned the division into a complete and utter circus and the division and sport as a whole will be better off when the conman is retired.
     
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    I don’t think Fury wants to fight Usyk. He never has. Doesn’t like the fight, doesn’t like the money involved and after the Ngannou embarrassment, he seemed pretty shot and aimless and probably get dealt win. Usyk can handle heavyweight powershots and has proven that. He’ll dance around Fury and win a wide points decision.

    Fury knows the biggest money fight left is Joshua. It’s double or triple what he’d get for Usyk, undisputed title or not.

    Bold prediction - Joshua beats Ngannou. Fury pulls out of the Usyk May date. Joshua fights Usyk. Joshua beats Usyk. Fury vs Joshua for undisputed early next year.

    Joshua wins.
     
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    Not long had the weigh-in, Fury classless as usual pushing Usyk before everyone dived in. Fury came in light(ish) and Usyk his heaviest yet. Interesting.

    https://www.skysports.com/boxing/ne...gh-in-clash-and-says-i-m-coming-for-his-heart

    Have to say I'm bored with the Fury show now. 'I'm retiring', 'I'm not retiring', 'I'll fight for free', 'I'll only fight for proper money', 'I'll donate my purse to charity', 'he's a dosser', 'he's a great fighter who has my respect' etc etc etc....

    Really hope Usyk wins and we hear no more from the Pikey King, especially after what his old man did earlier in the week. However, boxing being boxing it wouldn't surprise me if - provided neither are knocked out - it'll somehow be level on the cards just to maximise the hype for the contractual rematch.
     
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    Fantastic performance from Usyk. Took the fight to Fury and battered him. Lost at best 3 rounds and only the ropes and the bell saved Fury from being out cold. How the judges scored it a split decision is embarrassing, as well as the close call on the other card. Fury classless as usual claiming he won (hahahaha) and that Usyk got the decision because his country's at war. Make no mistake - this was not a close fight despite what you'll read in the British press.

    And the Sky commentators are an embarrassment, nuthugging Fury all night. Hopefully the last we see of this clown.
     
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    I know we all often claim football is fixed due to some of the poor decisions we see on field, even if we don't really mean it and it's just to vent our frustration - but I really do believe corruption flows through boxing, especially in big money fights.

    They have a contractual second fight to hype up (assuming Fury doesn't retire) and that's a much harder sell if this fight is reported as what it was - a very one-sided win in Usyk's favour. Fury won a few rounds from 4 onwards before Usyk put his foot down again and the ref literally saved Tyson in the 9th - he called a 10 count before he'd hit the floor (by holding on to the ropes) instead of either stopping the fight or letting Usyk knock him out. This conveniently took it to the bell. If you haven't seen this round, watch it somewhere online. Tyson was finished.

    The scorecards have been released to the public and they are a disgrace. One judge had Fury winning 7 rounds. 7!!!! Not much will be said about it because the right man still won the fight, but it should be discussed.

    They've basically made it so that the 'knock down' won the fight, otherwise Fury would have got the decision and I can tell you that is massively untrue.

    I guess when something is so one-sided, even boxing cannot fix it for the other guy to win or steal a draw.

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    As I said, Usyk is a different level. An all time, generational talent, whilst Fury is one of the most overrated heavyweights in history.

    Absolutely laughable it wasn't stopped in the ninth when Fury was absolutely out on his feet, not defending himself, getting absolutely pumelled. The other way around the ref 100% steps in and stops it. Also pathetic one of the corrupt judges tried giving it to Fury.

    Thankfully, we still got the right winner, even if it wasn't the win it should have been.
     
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    Usyk won the fight 8 rounds to 4 at worst, with a 10-8 round in there to boot... And the fight should have been stopped in that round. Of course one corrupt **** still tried to give it to Fury, though.

    I was expecting a draw. Not because it was in a million years, but because boxing is a corrupt mess where you can never trust the result will be just if there isn't a stoppage.
     
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    Fury getting sound advice from Sugar Hill while John Fury was shouting nonsense in his ear at the same time. Madness.

    Usyk calm and focused throughout. Everything Fury tried in the first couple of rounds didn't work at all.

    I had Usyk by at least 4 rounds.
     
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    Whatever one's views of Fury he must be the only modern sportsman who isn't covered in tattoos which in my book makes him a 'national treasure'
     
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    I know very little about boxing, but is it possible that professional fights could be assessed on punches landed in the correct target areas, as in Olympic boxing, rather than by the judges ‘impression’ of each round?
     
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