ash has gone to west ham for 10 mill

[rookerydave]

thats according to the mail- ash gone for 10 mill after 4 failed bids.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=428784&in_page_id=1779

all i can say is **** and west ham aswell!

[UEA_Hornet]

;D

Altogether now...

"Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio..."

[Chewitt]

As much as i didn't want him to go to West Ham due to the fact they aren't much bigger than us if £10M is true then i'll forget it's West Ham. £10M is an extraordinary amount of money for a club like ours and we've got the best price possible.
I have a feeling West Ham will clamber away from trouble eventually anyway.

All credit to the board for sticking it out and backing AB till we got an offer that AB felt was worthwhile.

[wfcwarehouse]

If true then we've got very good money.

Full credit to Aidy for putting up a fight to keep Ash at the club, but for 10M you can't really argue with it. Just hope that he goes on to what he deserves.

[UEA_Hornet]

Just hope that he goes on to what he deserves.

A spell in the reserves and a transfer back to Watford in 2008 for £650,000? ;D

[coll123]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=428784&in_page_id=1779

take a look at this my mate just sent it to me

[jobr]

3 out of 3 for the Mail??????

King, Hocky now ash!

[UEA_Hornet]

http://www.wfcforums.com/showthread.php?t=5337

I wish the mods luck with merging all the threads that'll follow on this one! ;D

[wfcwarehouse]

Very good money for him - way over what he's worth IMHO. I was willing Aidy to sell at 3-4million.

[Defunct]

http://www.wfcforums.com/showthread.php?t=5337

I wish the mods luck with merging all the threads that'll follow on this one! ;D

At least the bookie was wise enough to close the book quickly ;)

[Chewitt]

Definately somebody inside WFC leaking stuff out and it's not acceptable. The **** nees to be rooted out and have all the disciplinary action thrown at him.

[UEA_Hornet]

On this occation though it might be useful for other teams to know the going rate...

[coll123]

sorry i just wanted to inform watford fans as are club dont tend to tell us stuff so we have to find it out are selfs

[Bubble]

Farking result!!! ;D ;D

£10,000,000 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I bet there will be a few tears on here when he completes his medical on monday/tuesday!

Ash, just say Yes! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bet he rejects it :(

[wfcwarehouse]

Too true Lee - expect an article on the fishal site by next season.

[Chewitt]

The mole is Sietes, he's lurking inside a draw somewhere in the building listening in. He feeds at night only, eating leftover stale hot dog rolls.

[Chewitt]

At least the bookie was wise enough to close the book quickly ;)

:D damn right !

[Defunct]

£10 Million? And to think a couple of weeks ago we were saying 5 mill should be considered. Great work by the boss IMO.

[Chewitt]

£10 Million? And to think a couple of weeks ago we were saying 5 mill should be considered. Great work by the boss IMO.

For the 1st time in a long while the board haven't caved in at a silly price, ala Robbo.
Well done Ashton and Simpson.

[wfchornet2]

threads merged... but not for the last time i wouldnt wonder ;)

[Bubble]

Great work by Aidy, but more importantly by the board! Now Simpson and Ashton aren't flavour of the month with me at the moment regarding a few internal issues BUT credit where it's due, they've backed Aidy all the way!

Wasn't long ago we were letting Robbo go for peanuts...

Well done the board and Aidy!

Cheers for the memories Ash, whilst i think you're vastly over priced (;D ) i must say you've given me some great memories from last season! Your goal at palace will long live in my memory!

[UEA_Hornet]

For the 1st time in a long while the board haven't caved in at a silly price, ala Robbo.
Well done Ashton and Simpson.

Again, to be fair, this is the first time this board has had the financial backing behind it to be able to not cave in at the silly prices.

[Chewitt]

Again, to be fair, this is the first time this board has had the financial backing behind it to be able to not cave in at the silly prices.

True although surely at 300K we could have held out for more !?!?!

[RussWatford]

Time to start construction of 'The Ashley Young Stand'!


Seeing as he's going a long way to fund it!

[coll123]

if true i just want to say a big thanks to ash he left his mark on watford with the memories he givens us all and as much as i dont want him to go to west ham we cant turn down money like that

[Chewitt]

if true i just want to say a big thanks to ash he left his mark on watford with the memories he givens us all and as much as i dont want him to go to west ham we cant turn down money like that

Completely agree.

[Bubble]

Again, to be fair, this is the first time this board has had the financial backing behind it to be able to not cave in at the silly prices.

Good point, we are finally in a position where we didn't need to sell, but still, good to see we have over inflated his value and have got great money for him!

Great business!

[UEA_Hornet]

I'd say it was at least double his real value. I think Wet Spam are gonna end up paying a lot for a great deal of untapped potential...

[lm_wfc]

hmmm, sounds god that we are alledgedly getting 10 million, but its not worth it if we dont find a replacement - not for 10 million obiously, i think some should be invested off the pitch too.

[UEA_Hornet]

You don't think it's worth it for £10m?? You're having an absolute giraffe mate!

[lm_wfc]

not if the 10 million is invested well.

[The Voice of Reason]

"10 Million Quid"

Is It True

[WFC4Life]

Daily Mail:
West Ham 3 Fulham 3

West Ham have had a £10million bid accepted for Watford forward Ashley Young.

The Upton Park board were successful at the fourth attempt for the England Under 21 international, having previously had offers of £7m, £8m and then £9m rejected.

• Skipper Terry poised to sign £150,000-a-week deal at Chelsea


• It won't be Rocky for Beckham in LA, says Sly


• Gloves off at Fight Hart Lane


The development is a major boost for manager Alan Curbishley, who learned yesterday that he will be without injured defender Danny Gabbidon (groin) and Argentina striker Carlos Tevez (calf) for the next six weeks.

Curbishley will now be desperate for Young to agree personal terms and play a major part in his side’s battle against relegation.

He will be hoping to seal the deal over the next few days, with Aston Villa still in the hunt for a player who made his name in the Championship last season before continuing his impressive development in the top flight this term.

Villa, financed by the millions of new owner Randy Lerner, could table a counter bid.


So looks like he will be leaving then...£10 mil good price or not??

I say we will be ripping west ham off if they spend that much on him!

[lowerrous]

Please come in with a counter-bid Villa!

I don't wanna lose £20! :(

[Bubble]

really? :rolleyes:

[Torontotimmy]

How is he doing? Maybe he can become the funding for the 3rd tier on the Rous in another 3 years!
;D 8) :cool: 8) ;D

[PFCFitz,YellowArmy]

Daily Mail:
Villa, financed by the millions of new owner Randy Lerner, could table a counter bid.


So looks like he will be leaving then...£10 mil good price or not??

I say we will be ripping west ham off if they spend that much on him!

Wow. That's a lot of bones. It's a very impressive bid.

I doubt it, but I'm curious to see if Beckham fever will convince Lerner he needs to get more competitive fast. Knowing his handiwork in the NFL, I'd say he won't open his wallet here now though.

[A. Web]

that is a very, very good price and i can not see us getting anymore for him.if were gonna sell it likes like off to the spammers young shall go, i just pray he isnt the reason we go down and they stay up

[troppohorn]

but what might be difficult is that the clubs that we go to to try and buy a player will know we recived 10 mill for ash and will probably try and get as much out of us as possible.

"vicious cycle"

[krisvad]

If he accepts - what to do with it all? I don't want us to spend on players now.

In fact I'd invest in our academy that produced Ash.

I'd get rid of some debts to make us stronger for the future. Come summer I'd spend for promotion - heavily.

The problem is all clubs will know we've got 10 mio to spend if we go out spending now. That's way we need to invest that mone elsewhere.

[Hornmeister]

:eek: If this is true then it's a stupid price. One of two moneyed up teams I think the league could stand but I fear that there will be a split with the haves & have nots.

[wfc4ever]

I am not sure if Young will want to join West Ham really.

Take the 10 million and run though because Ashley is only worth half of that.

Its a massive risk by the Hammers I think but its good forn us.

[wfc4ever]

Excellent bit of business to get about double what Ash is really worth...remember he has only really played 1 and a half seasons on a regular basis.

Little point in wasting the money now really but such an amount will help us in the summer to bring in 3/4 good players for a promotion push.

[Sir Chez]

take it now before they realise how overpriced he is!

[Dublinhorn]

From the BBC rumour site:

West Ham have had a £10m bid for Watford winger Ashley Young accepted. (Daily Mail)

Watford boss Aidy Boothroyd admits he will find it hard to turn down a new £8m bid for Young from the Hammers, who are battling with Aston Villa for the winger. (Daily Mirror)

Watford will spark a three-way battle when they accept West Ham's £8m bid for Young, who is also wanted by Villa and Tottenham. (Daily Star)

[berkshirehorn]

this is good news. sorry to see ash go but the hammers can't have seen the first half on saturday. second half in midfield he looked pretty good but not £10 million good.

[yelnred]

this is good news. sorry to see ash go but the hammers can't have seen the first half on saturday. second half in midfield he looked pretty good but not £10 million good.

We may accept, who knows. But the burning question is will Ashley?:eek: Why go to clubs near the bottom with us with one of them being relegated with us? My view is that they are bids from the wrong clubs. If he is to go the we need replacements but who is going to come here if we are seen as a selling club? To achieve targets you need to keep you best weapons. Do we need £8-9 or 10 Million at this moment in time?

The board will have a lot to answere for if this happens!>:(

[berkshirehorn]

Are his brothers anything like as good as Ash?

[berkshirehorn]

to be honest we need to be thinking about players that will get us out of the championship now rather than aiming for mid premiership status

[The Voice of Reason]

I've said right from the start of all this speculation that Ash has been overated by all these clubs.

Don't get me wrong Ash IS a good player, but IMHO, not in the £10 million bracket, in fact I would have taken less than half that and still cosidered we had got a good deal.

If this deal comes off, I reckon we will be able to buy him back if we want to in a couple of years for less than half the current offer on the table, and I think he would come as I believe he is watford through and through.

I don't believe he would even go if the club did not want him to, but right now the best way he can serve WFC is by going for the silly money that is on offer.

If you go Ash, thank you and good luck, don't play to hard when you come up against us, hopefully you can come back one day and play alongside your brothers.

ALL THE BEST MATE, YOU HAVE SERVED US WELL!!!!

[Echo]

If we get £10mil I don't think we can turn it down - imo it is way over what he is worth.

[berkshirehorn]

those of us in the ramshackle east stand beg to differ.....

[Siohmy]

£10m!!!!! Holy overprice Batman.

To be honest Young will go on improving but for him he needs to go to a team with some outstanding individuals from whom he can learn. I'm not sure West Ham are that team but we are unlikely to be in a position to turn down that size of bid. I just hope Young is in the position they seem to claim of turning it down without pressure from the board. I am not sure he'd really want to go to West Ham unless told we need the money. He sounds like he'd want to do what is good for the club as much as it is good for him.

Of the other clubs in the hunt I think Spurs is probably the best move for him as a player. Sure their defence is all over the place but they have talented players going forward and I think he'll fit in well there.

Bottom line is that Young, alone, is simply not going to keep us in the Prem so take the money and run in my opinion.

[Oliver Philips MBE]

Great piece of business! Now we can waste it all on over inflated wages...

[wfchornet2]

We may accept, who knows. But the burning question is will Ashley?:eek: Why go to clubs near the bottom with us with one of them being relegated with us? My view is that they are bids from the wrong clubs. If he is to go the we need replacements but who is going to come here if we are seen as a selling club? To achieve targets you need to keep you best weapons. Do we need £8-9 or 10 Million at this moment in time?

The board will have a lot to answere for if this happens!>:(

IMO Curbs has the spending power and the knowhow to buy his way out of the quagmire.. and for ash it would be his best move, at least at Wet spam he will get a game, how much playing time would he get if he went to any of the big 4?
as for do we need £8-9 or £10 million at this time? no.. not right at this moment, but wouldnt you like to see our club have some financial security for a change and have a chance to grow? working from week to week on a budget that a lower league team would get narked about is not the way we will become the great club we once were again, one of the clubs who fights for a euro place as we did in the early 80's

[wfchornet2]

nothing at all on skysports.com reference this.. which is unusual they tend to be pretty spot on with what they say, if not a little slow at times.

[PaddingtonsYellowArmy]

We may accept, who knows. But the burning question is will Ashley?:eek: Why go to clubs near the bottom with us with one of them being relegated with us? My view is that they are bids from the wrong clubs. If he is to go the we need replacements but who is going to come here if we are seen as a selling club? To achieve targets you need to keep you best weapons. Do we need £8-9 or 10 Million at this moment in time?

The board will have a lot to answer for if this happens!>:(

The board will have a lot to answer for if they do not accept the 10 million - Ash has been here all season and played most games and we are still bottom - 10million - when ever in the history of the club have we had that sum of money mentioned for one of our players(even taking indexation into account) - not often.

This is exactly the influx of funds we need added to this season premiership money and parachute dosh - the club will have never been in such a great position to go forward - it wll be able to compete in the transfer market with the big guns of the fizzy pop league and from the start of a new seson QAidy will be able to persuade players on a level of starting and achieving rather than now- half way through and doomed.

What may appear to be so bad and negative at this moment in time is actually for me very positive, exciting and secure for the future.

We need to do nothing more after selling Ash, than use the squad we have -go down with pride and passion in our play - gain valuable experience against the best players in the land and take it all into next season - with Aidy preparing us for a record breaking season.

[Chewitt]

But paddy if we don't sign anybody else this season then Aidy is accepting that we're down and this will therefore rub off on the players. Then you can throw your going down with pride and passion out of the window.

[PaddingtonsYellowArmy]

As much as i didn't want him to go to West Ham due to the fact they aren't much bigger than us if £10M is true then i'll forget it's West Ham. £10M is an extraordinary amount of money for a club like ours and we've got the best price possible.
I have a feeling West Ham will clamber away from trouble eventually anyway.

All credit to the board for sticking it out and backing AB till we got an offer that AB felt was worthwhile.

Chewy - wet spam are huge compared to us - how can you say not much bigger than us - on what grounds? There history is superior to ours, their attendance are twice as much as ours and their squad is much better than our (on paper)

No way wet spam will be going down - Its a very good move for Ash - a team known for attacking - I bet Ash will not be instructed to come back and defend for corners and free kicks.

I am happy for Ash - he should really prosper there. And we can be proud that we raised him.

10 million - WOW!!!!!

[PaddingtonsYellowArmy]

But paddy if we don't sign anybody else this season then Aidy is accepting that we're down and this will therefore rub off on the players. Then you can throw your going down with pride and passion out of the window.

The players will be plying for their own futures - Not signing anyone means having faith in what you have and aso giving them the opportunity to grow and develop - I'd be very surpried if they didn't play with that pride and that passion - now collins john if signed may well have that attitude- so we don't need to sign him.

When he gets frozen out at foolham and don't play again - he will be worth 2million in the summer -so we can buy him then.

What ever happens from now til end of season - we cannot lose - we are down - bonus if we stay up, money in the bank and a squad we know is capable of doing things in fizzy pop.

[krisvad]

But paddy if we don't sign anybody else this season then Aidy is accepting that we're down and this will therefore rub off on the players. Then you can throw your going down with pride and passion out of the window.

I think that happened a while back Chewitt. Signing Moses and the Miller-boys were planning for the future. I think he's resigned to fizzy-footie next season. Let the players get some experience for the future and come back stronger.

[Chewitt]

Ok so saying they aren't much bigger than us was an understatement but i don't believe that they are huge compared to us.
With our two winnable games in hand there is the slightest bit of hope of survival and surely this is worth holding onto. You seem to have accepeted relegation asa certainty Paddy but as you and everybody knows, nothing is certain in football.

[UEA_Hornet]

The stats say different though Chewitt.

[Doobie serious]

The fact is that history suggests the following:
1) 9 wins would see us safe (with 39 points being there or there abouts)

2) We have 2 "winnable" games in hand (17 games all in)
BUT...
3)We've only won 1 all season so far & scoring precious few goals

Personally I'm happy to see the club building for next season (both with players and infrastructure)

Next few days will get interesting if Villa & Spurs still have a part to play in Ashley deal...

[Aberystwyth_Hornet]

We have to sell if we have recieved a £10 million bid, we can't push for much more than that. I know Aidy said Ash wouldn't be sold during the fans forum, but we must sell for that type of money. It must be almost 1/3 of what we got for actually getting in the Premiership!

I thought we'd get £6 million and i thought i was being optimisitc. A year ago, i'd have said we'd have got £2 million max (and we'd probably have been forced to accept). If we go down, a team will not bid £10 million again, probably half that. Money like that is more than just money for players to a club like us which still has some financial struggles.

This season has been our chance to make sure we defo have money for the clubs new infrastructure and to secure a long-term future which will allow us to compete in the Premiership again. I don't think we will be a top 10 side by 2010, but i'm sure we'll be in the Premiership again by that time.

[johnparrack]

Skysports news have said that ashley has Rejected the opportunity to talk to Wet Spam...offer said to be 8mill up fron and 1,6 in add ons...

[essexhorn]

Just on Sky Sports News Ash has turned down the chance to discuss move to West Ham.

[skeggyhornet]

according to skysports news at 3.25 today watford have agreed a fee of £8m
plus a further £1.65 in addons but ashley young has snubbed the move

[Birdydoug]

So that leaves Villa and Spurs

[Hornmeister]

Just on Sky Sports News Ash has turned down the chance to discuss move to West Ham.

Sounding like the lad has his sensible head on.

[Desmond]

If he supports arsenal will he really go to spurs??

looks like villa

[johnparrack]

yet...i just put a thread on that as well..lol....typed slightly quicker :P

Yep, and now leaves Villa and Tottenham to fight it out.....thats if hes interested in leaving at all..

[essexhorn]

Sounding like the lad has his sensible head on.

I agree. Been most depressed today with the thought of him going there.

[Hornmeister]

3 threads:eek: merged;D

[Defunct]

Ashley Young = Top chap.

[Hornmeister]

Ashley Young = Top chap.

Wet Pam = Gutted:p

[skeggyhornet]

he is not even worth half of that for him to turn down that sort of move says something to his loyalty, I hope.
If any player is loyal to watford fc its ash lets just hope it dont get to tempting. I cant see the chance of villa or spurs having a factor on him snubbing west ham.

[wfcmoog]

Bah, this is bad news. 10m for him was awesome business. I hope his snub of WH doesn't mean the others think they can get him on the cheap.

[StuBoy]

Good for Ashley, if he didn't even want to discuss terms and see what they had to offer, he is either a) totally loyal or b) holding out for Spurs or Villa.

[Hornmeister]

he is not even worth half of that for him to turn down that sort of move says something to his loyalty, I hope.
If any player is loyal to watford fc its ash lets just hope it dont get to tempting. I cant see the chance of villa or spurs having a factor on him snubbing west ham.

It's the right decision for him if he wants to break into the England squad, it wont help him sitting on the bench. On the other hand I'm sure that the wages on offer would have been good. Shows he's a footballer first foremost.

[UEA_Hornet]

This could end up costing us a lot of money. I just hope he's serious about staying and isn't going to have a change of heart midway through next season and end up leaving under a cloud for a third of the price. Anyone who thinks we'll get that kind of offer again after this January is barmy!

[jobr]

i still think he will go, West Sham was never an option.

[Hornmeister]

i still think he will go, West Sham was never an option.

Fair point.

Choice:

1 bench warm at a club that will likely be relegated for a little more cash but no exposure and reduced chances of an England breakthrough. Also not a wonderful atmos.

2 First Choice at a club with and close to family, which is likely to be relegated however will mean exposure due to playing and have a better chance of England call up, also a good atmos, a little less cash.

Choice 2 for me.


I s'pose choice 3 would be bench warm at a top prem club for more cash and a bit of exposure, then it may be a bit more difficult to call.

[coll123]

he will probs go to villa did not think he would go to west ham

[Berkohorn]

I am still surprised that he did not even want to talk terms - even if he had no intention of leaving for WHam. I think that it is always interesting to know what is on the table.

I think he would prefer to go to Villa and probably not Spurs but, as far as we know, no other team has been that close to W Ham's bid.

[PaddingtonsYellowArmy]

Damn and testicles.

[afanof]

We'll never be offered 10million for him again after January. I hope he has his eye on one of the other interested clubs.

[skeggyhornet]

supprised warnock aint tabled a mickey mouse offer.........

[afanof]

supprised warnock aint tabled a mickey mouse offer.........

We're only halfway through the month. Give him time. :rolleyes:

[kingjames77]

Once again I'll side with the minority and say that Im overjoyed he has declined a move to the Spammers.

Alongside Mahon, He's been our best player all season and when you're fighting relegation, the last thing you do is sell your best or better players

I digress..... ive been miserable all day with the thought of Ash going and watching £10mil dissappear into someones pocket with the usual "weve got debts to pay off" excuse trundled out again and again.

I want Ashley Young to stay.

F*** the £10million.... we're financially secure and therefore dont need it.

We cant seem to spend any money anyway seeing as no one of any worth is willing to join us so whats the point of bringing in another £10million

I say Ash develops into the player all the top clubs thinks he's going to develop into, we avoid relegation and finish in the top 6 next year qualifying for Europe in the process. Then to cap it all off we turn down a £20million bid from Real Madrid!

Turn your phone off Ashley, unlike the rest of em I want you to stay!!!!

[LittleBigHorn]

Once again I'll side with the minority and say that Im overjoyed he has declined a move to the Spammers.

I want Ashley Young to stay.

F*** the £10million.... we're financially secure and therefore dont need it.

We cant seem to spend any money anyway seeing as no one of any worth is willing to join us so whats the point of bringing in another £10million

I say Ash develops into the player all the top clubs thinks he's going to develop into, we avoid relegation and finish in the top 6 next year qualifying for Europe in the process. Then to cap it all off we turn down a £20million bid from Real Madrid!

Turn your phone off Ashley, unlike the rest of em I want you to stay!!!!


I agree KingJames!!

Ashley (only 21) will get better and better and become a real financial asset in the future, whilst in the meantime, keeping quality in the first team!!

Would rather get 20 million for him in 5 years time and 5 years of watching him turn out in the beautifull yellow than flog him now!

WHICH I THOUGHT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE ACADEMY!!

What a great example then for the academy players...

I don't want to hear about.."we wont get 10 million for him if we get relegated, we have to sell him now!" UTTER BOLLOX!!

CLASS IS CLASS and CLASS can spot CLASS!!

Why did Wenger pay 12 million for Theo?? Because he is CLASS and so is Wenger... he can see the long term benefits!!

Ashley if you really want to go, then go... but if you really love Watford, and want to really set a great example to all the players in the academy (especially your brothers) then stay and be a legend for 5 years... and then get the big money move you will surely deserve to the BIG TIME!!!

DON'T GO!!.......(yet)

[Bubble]

Once again I'll side with the minority and say that Im overjoyed he has declined a move to the Spammers.

Alongside Mahon, He's been our best player all season and when you're fighting relegation, the last thing you do is sell your best or better players

I digress..... ive been miserable all day with the thought of Ash going and watching £10mil dissappear into someones pocket with the usual "weve got debts to pay off" excuse trundled out again and again.

I want Ashley Young to stay.

F*** the £10million.... we're financially secure and therefore dont need it.

We cant seem to spend any money anyway seeing as no one of any worth is willing to join us so whats the point of bringing in another £10million

I say Ash develops into the player all the top clubs thinks he's going to develop into, we avoid relegation and finish in the top 6 next year qualifying for Europe in the process. Then to cap it all off we turn down a £20million bid from Real Madrid!

Turn your phone off Ashley, unlike the rest of em I want you to stay!!!!

Ash has been nothing short of woeful over past 2 months! He's an average prem player at best, and if he had gone to Wet Pam i'd be extremely happy!

To say Ash has been our best player alongside Mahon is just laughable!

****tu? Foster? Bouazza?

[Bubble]

Farking result!!! ;D ;D

£10,000,000 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I bet there will be a few tears on here when he completes his medical on monday/tuesday!

Ash, just say Yes! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bet he rejects it :(

I had that horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach he'd say NO! >:(

[kingjames77]

Ash has been nothing short of woeful over past 2 months! He's an average prem player at best, and if he had gone to Wet Pam i'd be extremely happy!

To say Ash has been our best player alongside Mahon is just laughable!

****tu? Foster? Bouazza?


No its not....

I understand why you're dissing Ashley, its hard to take i know. I remember when Heidar went, you (bubble) along with many others were glad to see the back of him citing that we played poor football with him in the side and that none of our other strikers played well alongside him and we were better off with the money.

Utter rubbish as is your comment on Ash not being one of our best players this season. Sure boozer been a pleasant surprise and ben quite rightly is pushing for England no 1 spot but that doesnt mean Ash's performances have been any worse!

Sky Sports backs this up (based on regular appearances)

Their average rating.. 6.7 (3rd behind boozer and Foster)
Our average rating.. 7.3 (2nd behind Foster)

Oh one other thing

Ashley Young has played more games than anyone else this season....

Give the guy a break will ya..... im keeping my fingers well and truly crossed that he stays a HORN!!!

[kingjames77]

oh and another thing

Ashley Young is currently the 34 best player in the Premiership according to the Actim Index!

http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=actimTop100

Meaningless in your eyes obviously!

[Bubble]

Firstly you must have me mixed up with someone else, because I NEVER wanted to see HH go! He kept us up in his last season and is one of the reasons why we're not in League One!!!!! I thought our style of play was ok under Lewington (he just couldn't motivate the team and was a rubbish tactician) and Aidy when he first came in! So that wasn't an issue at all for me! I happened to understand why the board accepted the bid for HH because a) he wanted to go and b) he was in his last season and 28 years old, hardly going to get big bucks for him!

Rant over! (In fact i don't remember anyone wanting to see him gone)

How are we as a club in a position to lose £9,000,000+ on an AVERAGE premiership player! We won't see that amout of money again for Ash! No way! His value will drop drastically!

If Ash is soooooooo great then i'd expect a player of his high valuation to be able to make something happen out of nothing! Saturday was a great chance for him to do this but he was arguably the worst player on the pitch! He could do it in the championship and produce moments of brilliance out of nothing at all....can't do it at this level because he's not good enough! FACT

[PaddingtonsYellowArmy]

oh and another thing

Ashley Young is currently the 34 best player in the Premiership according to the Actim Index!

http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=actimTop100

Meaningless in your eyes obviously!

Kinhjames - hi mate - there ar two issues here.

1) - the amount of dosh being offered, we as a club really cannot afford to pass by - Ash is only one player - we need strengthening in every area of the pitch - we could get 3 x £3 million players in and be in a much better postion to stave of relegation than if we kept Ash who is actualy part of the team that has played most of the season and look where we are.

2) - All cerdit to Ash for saying no if he truly wants to stay at WFC - but maybe he has his sights on another club, we'll find out in the next two weeks

[Bubble]

oh and another thing

Ashley Young is currently the 34 best player in the Premiership according to the Actim Index!

http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=actimTop100

Meaningless in your eyes obviously!

Correct, it means nothing to me, he can't cross a ball to save his life, they're always going straight at the keeper or out of play! These sort of stats are misguided! Granted he's made the most crosses than anyone else in this division, BUT what use is that when they're all s**t?

Barry is rated as the best defender according to those stats, I could name you at least 10 defenders better than Gareth Barry! Only reason he's up there is because he's scored penalties :rolleyes:

[Evasive]

I am not dissing Ashley when I say I would like him to go at 10milion squids. I just think that the price is right, and I understand that the club is a business so they are going to accept an offer for a player that is IMO above his valuation.

[rookerydave]

Correct, it means nothing to me, he can't cross a ball to save his life, they're always going straight at the keeper or out of play! These sort of stats are misguided! Granted he's made the most crosses than anyone else in this division, BUT what use is that when they're all s**t?

Barry is rated as the best defender according to those stats, I could name you at least 10 defenders better than Gareth Barry! Only reason he's up there is because he's scored penalties :rolleyes:

your exactly right, by seeing ash near the top because of his ridiculus ammount of crosses, it shows how pointless the stats are, seeing as he is one of the weakest crossers of the ball in our team- why anyone would pay 10 million for that i dont no.

[Chewitt]

Kingjames, please would you not roll out the actim index bollo*ks or the sky sports stats. It's meaningless and nobody really takes much notice of them.

[kingjames77]

Bubble thats not fact at all..... your statement there alludes to the fact that you think you are more in the know as to level of Ash's ability than Watford, Spurs, Aston Villa and West Ham (amongst others)

He can produce, his dip in form is blatantly due to constant barrage of rumours surrounding a poosible move.... he's a shy lad and still only 21 GIVE HIM A BREAK!

Are you forgetting his pass to Marlon V Fulham which led to Kings goal.... sheer quality.... there arent many players in the Premiership capable of that

He's known for some time that clubs would come in for him hence his dip in form...... his ability though in my eyes is without doubt and if we REALLY want to be the Top 10 club that Audy Boothroyd says we're going to be, we'll hang on to him regardless of the money

Personally I think we've all been taken for mugs by the club, especially the board. I reckon Simpsons going utterly bonkers that Young hasnt signed for West Spam

Further to that, I think Aidy Boothroyds grinning from ear to ear and loving the fact Ash has stayed.

Watch when Ash ultimately goes for less to Spurs or even Arsenal.....

It's then that we'll see a change in attitude from Aidy Boothroyd and by the end of the season, Boothroyd himself will also be gone.

Back to square one, Champiobship football at the Vic, 0-0 draws at home with Southend BUT lovely new leather chairs in the clubs offices!!!

[PaddingtonsYellowArmy]

Bubble thats not fact at all..... your statement there alludes to the fact that you think you are more in the know as to level of Ash's ability than Watford, Spurs, Aston Villa and West Ham (amongst others)

He can produce, his dip in form is blatantly due to constant barrage of rumours surrounding a poosible move.... he's a shy lad and still only 21 GIVE HIM A BREAK!

Are you forgetting his pass to Marlon V Fulham which led to Kings goal.... sheer quality.... there arent many players in the Premiership capable of that

He's known for some time that clubs would come in for him hence his dip in form...... his ability though in my eyes is without doubt and if we REALLY want to be the Top 10 club that Audy Boothroyd says we're going to be, we'll hang on to him regardless of the money

Personally I think we've all been taken for mugs by the club, especially the board. I reckon Simpsons going utterly bonkers that Young hasnt signed for West Spam

Further to that, I think Aidy Boothroyds grinning from ear to ear and loving the fact Ash has stayed.

Watch when Ash ultimately goes for less to Spurs or even Arsenal.....

It's then that we'll see a change in attitude from Aidy Boothroyd and by the end of the season, Boothroyd himself will also be gone.

Back to square one, Champiobship football at the Vic, 0-0 draws at home with Southend BUT lovely new leather chairs in the clubs offices!!!

WOW - thats a belly full KIngjames:) feeling better with that off your chest.

[kingjames77]

1) - the amount of dosh being offered, we as a club really cannot afford to pass by - Ash is only one player - we need strengthening in every area of the pitch - we could get 3 x £3 million players in and be in a much better postion to stave of relegation than if we kept Ash who is actualy part of the team that has played most of the season and look where we are.



If we could get £3million pound players in we would have done so in the summer and we would have done so already this month.

Fact is we cant so why sell???

Everyone seems so keen to cash in but seeing as we've spent f*** all so far with the excuse that.. "no-one will come.." why bring in extra revenue????

How about Ash stays, and just like v Palace away...... is the difference in the second half of this season between success and failiure.

The club have performed a masterclass in how to promote then flog your best player as quickly as possible these last few weeks.

Hell theyve even updated Youngs profile on the official site to big him up just a little bit more.

THIS CLUB HAD NO INTENTION OF STAYING UP THIS YEAR. IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND HOW MUCH THE DIRECTORS COULD MAKE FOR THEMSELVES IN THE ALLADDINS CAVE OF THE PREMIERSHIP. I HOPE ALL DEALS FALL THROUGH AND ASH STAYS AS I KNOW THE BOARD WOULD BE UTTERLY DEVASTATED!

[Bubble]

Bubble thats not fact at all..... your statement there alludes to the fact that you think you are more in the know as to level of Ash's ability than Watford, Spurs, Aston Villa and West Ham (amongst others)

He can produce, his dip in form is blatantly due to constant barrage of rumours surrounding a poosible move.... he's a shy lad and still only 21 GIVE HIM A BREAK!

Are you forgetting his pass to Marlon V Fulham which led to Kings goal.... sheer quality.... there arent many players in the Premiership capable of that

He's known for some time that clubs would come in for him hence his dip in form...... his ability though in my eyes is without doubt and if we REALLY want to be the Top 10 club that Audy Boothroyd says we're going to be, we'll hang on to him regardless of the money

Personally I think we've all been taken for mugs by the club, especially the board. I reckon Simpsons going utterly bonkers that Young hasnt signed for West Spam

Further to that, I think Aidy Boothroyds grinning from ear to ear and loving the fact Ash has stayed.

Watch when Ash ultimately goes for less to Spurs or even Arsenal.....

It's then that we'll see a change in attitude from Aidy Boothroyd and by the end of the season, Boothroyd himself will also be gone.

Back to square one, Champiobship football at the Vic, 0-0 draws at home with Southend BUT lovely new leather chairs in the clubs offices!!!

Christ, where do I begin? If I think i'm in the know regarding his ability you seem to know what Ash is thinking, not to mention Simpson and AB! You claim Ash's dip in form is down to constant rumours? Bollox! It's because he goes missing from games and he's not good enough at this level to play for a top club! I have no doubt in the next few years he will be good enough but let's face it, he won't be here to show it so why go cockahoop when he decides he wants to stay?

Am I forgetting the pass he made for King's goal against Foolham? No absolutley not, great ball and i have said countless times he's better playing behind the striker rather than the wing (because he can't cross)! I could however name you a HUGE list of premiership players that could do that aswell! It was hardly Pele-esque was it? What about Bouazza's cross for Young's first against Fulham? Great ball, he's made less crosses than Ash this season but i bet they've been of better quality!

I think you're just blinded by your hate for the board (sound like one of those cretins off of BSaD) and can't see what's good business and what isn't! Simpson has done a remarkable job for the club and it's largely down to him that we're having this conversation! Time to drop the anti-board mode and take those rose tinted specs off my friend!

[kingjames77]

Im angry Paddy, angry at the way this season has been handled by all involved. We sell and we OFFICIALLY GO DOWN A WEAKER SIDE TO THE ONE THAT CAME UP.

So we'll have a few quid in the bank, great..... we wont be spending it!

[Chewitt]

So we'll have a few quid in the bank, great..... we wont be spending it!

Of course we will, the board offered Aidy the cash in August and will again at the start of next season. Weather he spends it or not is up to him and he made a mistake in august choosing not to spend it.

The board have been faultless as far as the transfer side of things have gone this season and it's about time you gave them some credit.

[Bubble]

Of course we will, the board offered Aidy the cash in August and will again at the start of next season. Weather he spends it or not is up to him and he made a mistake in august choosing not to spend it.

The board have been faultless as far as the transfer side of things have gone this season and it's about time you gave them some credit.

More chance of the Titanic sailing again!

[jobr]

Kj no medication today son.

I am a Watford fan through and through always have been always will be, I am passionate about the club.

But lets not forget the club is a business not a bottomless pit.

If we could get over £6million for ash that is great business nearly £10 is superb.

Get him sold, however my fear now is he will stay and that his value will fall quite sharply.

If you are all honest he hasn't been great all season, very mediocre.

[The Voice of Reason]

Ash you are doing the club no favours by staying, please just GO GO GO :(

[jobr]

Ash you are doing the club no favours by staying, please just GO GO GO :(

Taxi

[PFCFitz,YellowArmy]

Kind of a dumb question maybe:
What will the club do with the 10 Millions?

Buy new players?
Invest in the stadium?
Invest in player development at the Academy level?

Buy rounds at the Red Lion?

I'd hate to see the cash go for naught but swelling the old coffers.

[PaddingtonsYellowArmy]

Im angry Paddy, angry at the way this season has been handled by all involved. We sell and we OFFICIALLY GO DOWN A WEAKER SIDE TO THE ONE THAT CAME UP.

So we'll have a few quid in the bank, great..... we wont be spending it!

KJ - relax and take a look at the longer term startegy. Yes we may go back down, in fact we will, whether or not Ash stays and even if Marlon had not got injured - the fact is this league if far to good for us over a sustained season of 38 games. Ok we may like many other fizzy pop and lower league teams compete in a cup tie or two but over a season, we aint good enough. All the funds of Ash should be given to AB to improve the whole squad, none should be skimmed for ground dev etc etc.

3 or4 decent players with premiership experienc would give the squad better strength whilst the youngsters come through.

At least having a few quid in the bank means when players are availabae we will be able to compete in their signing.

[wfc4ever]

Godness me KJ77...have we had a bad day?

Ofcourse IF we sell Ashley some of the money will be spent on new players

Aidy will probably demand it to be or he will go which the board do not want.

Any club like us would accept a big bid for a young player with potential from a Premiership side...

I personally think the board should be praised for not just giving in to the first bid we got to be honest.

Ofcourse there will be always be those who think Watford are a big club who must have great players and should never sell.....

Young has not even been in the top 3 of best players this season and is only worth about 3-5 million.

[kingjames77]

ahhhhhh you lot are alrite really!!

Yeah im a little anti board.... there are too many discrepancies that i havent forgotten and i think they got off the hook a little when we went up.

Not saying they're dirty through and through but they're certainly NOT honest with us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (theres my issue in one!)

I'll be a little more honest shall i..... i was absolutely SICKENED by our display against Liverpool. Utter rubbish, no worse than that, shocking.

I can honestly say that my WORST ALL TIME TOP 3 displays by a Watford side have occurred THIS SEASON! (Liverpool being one of them!)

Not acceptable..... no where near acceptable! We;ve almost got a big squad of players now... selling Ash removes the only bit of genuine quality within that squad!

[WatfordÉire]

heres sky sports view (http://home.skysports.com/transferarticle.aspx?hlid=441820)

[lm_wfc]

I am not sure if Young will want to join West Ham really.

well done. what will the weather be tomorrow?

[wfc4ever]

well done. what will the weather be tomorrow?

Probably cold but not wet....

:rolleyes: ;D ;)

[lm_wfc]

He could do it in the championship and produce moments of brilliance out of nothing at all....can't do it at this level because he's not good enough! FACT
FACT! is that hes not as experienced at this level and has been playing up front

[UEA_Hornet]

FACT! is that hes not as experienced at this level and has been playing up front

Err and where did he score most his goals from last season?

[davidnewtonwfc]

As this was posted yesterday, does this mean the club will announce the deal next season?

[wfc4ever]

As this was posted yesterday, does this mean the club will announce the deal next season?

When he goes to Villa or Spurs?

[lm_wfc]

Err and where did he score most his goals from last season?
1 - we've already established last season is not this seaon. hendo and spring also scored lots last seson, malky was good at cb last seson.
2 - where he scored most of his goals is not where his best performances

[UEA_Hornet]

Erm ok. I'd have said goals were the target for most attacking players but seems I've been wrong all these years :rolleyes:

[kingjames77]

I love it when someone comes along and takes the heat off me.... the backlash I feared hasnt been as heavy as I expected!!

Nice one guys and gals!! :D

[lm_wfc]

not wingers. do you see macca scoring loads?

[UEA_Hornet]

not wingers. do you see macca scoring loads?

No, but now you've started me on it I'd say he should score a damn sight more than he does!

As for Young...he scored lots of goals when up front last season. I actually think his impact lessened once he went back to playing on the wing. This season he has had little real impact in either position - even though some of the stats say otherwise.

[lm_wfc]

I love it when someone comes along and takes the heat off me.... the backlash I feared hasnt been as heavy as I expected!!

Nice one guys and gals!! :D
that'll be 25 'orns.

[wfc4ever]

West Ham offered him 50k a week according to 5live!

MADNESS indeed.

However this was reported by Sun junro so I do find this hard to believe.

[kingjames77]

If he's genuinely turned that down then he'd definitely expecting another offer to come in....

[Defunct]

Much as I like Ash and feel he's going to be very special in the future, a £10 million offer is staggering. £10 million? I still find it hard to believe West Ham or anyone would pay that much for him, it's an absolute fortune.

[kingjames77]

I'm reliably informed that his value will be increasing overnight to £12million.

Keep turning em down Ashley!!

[lm_wfc]

thats probably a lie, apparently he didnt even talk to them.

[jobr]

Is Young still here :(

[Bubble]

Love the pic Jon!

Give me England till my dying day...

Just don't tell Ian Grant :rolleyes:

[kingjames77]

Hot off the press, the West Ham bid has now NOT been rejected!

Simpsons been round his house pleading with him!!!!


Taken from the Guardian
"It was suggested yesterday that Young had rejected West Ham after their £8m offer plus another £1.65m based on clauses was accepted. However, the 21-year-old's advisors have indicated that those reports are incorrect and a deal could still be agreed, with Young believed to favour remaining in London. Tottenham and Villa both remain in the hunt but both clubs will need to significantly increase their current bids to gazump West Ham."

[steve harrow]

One of Tuesday's papers (the Guardian) now say that Ash hasn't actually turned West Ham down and reports that he had are incorrect.

[steve harrow]

kingjames, stop reading the guardian and get to bed instead of posting a minute before me!

[The Voice of Reason]

One of Tuesday's papers (the Guardian) now say that Ash hasn't actually turned West Ham down and reports that he had are incorrect.

What are we to believe :confused: :confused: :confused:

[UEA_Hornet]

Well who brought the 'rejection' to the attention of the press then? Either it was Watford playing amateur press games (again :rolleyes:), Wet Spam's lot or Young's advisors. Whichever way that deal seems pretty dead. Regardless, I still think all you rejoicing lot further up may be about to get a taste of yummy humble 'I told you so' pie.

[Since63]

Main point here is that IF Ash has rejected Spam's offer it does NOT mean he doesn't want to leave Watford under any circumstances, but that he doesn't see much point in joining them at this particular moment.
Too much "out of the frying pan into the fire"?

[Defunct]

Just wanted to point out that we're now over half way through the transfer window. That went quick!

[jobr]

Just wanted to point out that we're now over half way through the transfer window. That went quick!

and we still have added no quality in an attempt to keep us up.

[yelnred]

We may accept, who knows. But the burning question is will Ashley?:eek: Why go to clubs near the bottom with us with one of them being relegated with us? My view is that they are bids from the wrong clubs. If he is to go the we need replacements but who is going to come here if we are seen as a selling club? To achieve targets you need to keep you best weapons. Do we need £8-9 or 10 Million at this moment in time?

The board will have a lot to answer for if this happens!>:(

TOLD YOU SO> WELL DONE ASH, Common sence prevails in footballers. Now when Liverpool come along with there new investment and owners... Thats a different story!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GloryHornet3]

Just put on the official site:

Club confirms Young situation.

Over the weekend Watford accepted an undisclosed fee and allowed Young and his representatives the opportunity to meet the unnamed club.

Following these discussions Watford Football Club has been informed that Young has decided not to accept the tabled offer.

Commenting upon ongoing speculation in the national media, Chairman Graham Simpson reaffirmed the club's position: "We have stated many times over that we have no need or desire to sell Ashley Young, or any of our players for that matter.

"However, having given due consideration to all of the factors I felt that this offer was right for the club."

The 21-year old Stevenage born forward has been a feature of Vicarage Road since the age of 10, having progressed through the club's acclaimed Academy system.

Why the secrecy over the club and the fee?

[Bubble]

I'm not suprised over the secrecy of the club but i am by the fee not being mentioned! You would have thought if we mention the fee other clubs may come in to better it?

[lm_wfc]

maybe its because the bid isnt as high as speculated, and that clbs will match the 10 million allegded.

[jobr]

I'm not suprised over the secrecy of the club but i am by the fee not being mentioned! You would have thought if we mention the fee other clubs may come in to better it?

If they stated the fee other clubs know what we are now prepared to sell for.

the reported £9.65m is only speculation.

they may be withholding the info in the hope that some other mug comes along and offers a vastly inflated figure such as £10million.

[Bubble]

Very True

[kingjames77]

The statement by GS today is so bloody hypocritical its frightening!

"We have no need or desire to sell......"

"However given due consideration to factors, this offer is right for the club"


Ok so If the club doesnt NEED to sell and the club doesnt WANT to sell then WHY ON EARTH ARE WE TRYING TO SELL???????


I dont want to hear this "every player has their price bollox"


I EXPECTED TO SEE SIGNINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BRING ABOUT A WINNING RUN THIS MONTH

INSTEAD ALL THE TALK HAS BEEN OF ASH DEPARTING


WRONG......... VERY VERY WRONG!

[The Voice of Reason]

The statement by GS today is so bloody hypocritical its frightening!

"We have no need or desire to sell......"

"However given due consideration to factors, this offer is right for the club"


Ok so If the club doesnt NEED to sell and the club doesnt WANT to sell then WHY ON EARTH ARE WE TRYING TO SELL???????


I dont want to hear this "every player has their price bollox"


I EXPECTED TO SEE SIGNINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BRING ABOUT A WINNING RUN THIS MONTH

INSTEAD ALL THE TALK HAS BEEN OF ASH DEPARTING


WRONG......... VERY VERY WRONG!

Of course it would have bin rite for the club :eek: :eek: :eek:

How many times do I have to say this.....


"ASH AINT WORTH THE MONEY"

So we would have bin mad not to accept a crazy offer like that :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[wfc4ever]

I EXPECTED TO SEE SIGNINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BRING ABOUT A WINNING RUN THIS MONTH

INSTEAD ALL THE TALK HAS BEEN OF ASH DEPARTING


WRONG......... VERY VERY WRONG!

I did warn people like you to be disappointed.

Why is it if a manager says he will TRY to sign decent players then its expected some will just come without any thinking or problem to a team who do not pay very high wages, play some very unattractive football and in the eyes of many observers both neutral and our own fans that the club will be playing Championship football?

Aidy does not want to sell whivh is fine but the board would be stupid to reject a 10 million bid for a fairly decent but pretty much unproven Premiership player?

What is the betting in the summer we accept a bid from Spurs/Villa for 5 million and Young signs for them ASAP?

[kingjames77]

The problem Mr (or Mrs) WFC is that, in the Championship, cashing in on Ash would have been neccessary.

Aidy Boothroyd and the board have been selling us a vision for the club which says we "aspire" to be a Top 10 team and will have this in 3 years.

For that to happen, as they say it will, WE CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be selling Ashley Young.

In the Premiership, Top 10 "aspiring" teams should be SIGNING £5million players NOT selling them.

My issue is that if we sell, the club (in my eyes) are actively and publically advertising the fact that their dream for this club in the next 3 years is indeed of the PIPE variety.

[wfc4ever]

I think that is Aidy being very unrealistic to be honest...more like top 10 in the Championship over the next 2/3 years.

[kingjames77]

Why would he try and get everyones hopes up?

[UEA_Hornet]

The problem Mr (or Mrs) WFC is that, in the Championship, cashing in on Ash would have been neccessary.

Aidy Boothroyd and the board have been selling us a vision for the club which says we "aspire" to be a Top 10 team and will have this in 3 years.

For that to happen, as they say it will, WE CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be selling Ashley Young.

In the Premiership, Top 10 "aspiring" teams should be SIGNING £5million players NOT selling them.

My issue is that if we sell, the club (in my eyes) are actively and publically advertising the fact that their dream for this club in the next 3 years is indeed of the PIPE variety.

Every player has his price. Sorry I know you don't want to hear it but it's true. The statement is utter tosh and everyone knows it. We are a selling club, are are every club outside of the top 4/5 in England.

[kingjames77]

Every player has his price. Sorry I know you don't want to hear it but it's true. The statement is utter tosh and everyone knows it. We are a selling club, are are every club outside of the top 4/5 in England.

Then surely if they wish to be building bridges with the fans, they should stop posting "utter tosh"

This is why my respect for the WFC management / board is so damn low at the moment and has been for the best part of two years EVEN THOUGH we won ourselves promotion and appear to have gotten ourselves out of the red financial brown stuff!!

[Defunct]

Every man has his price. The club obviously realise that the bids they are currently getting for Ash are so over what he's probably worth that they'd be mad not to sell him.

There's not a manager in the league that wouldn't sell a player that was getting bids at 100% more than the players value, IMO.

[UEA_Hornet]

Then surely if they wish to be building bridges with the fans, they should stop posting "utter tosh"

I agree with you on that. The only PR event I think they've handled really well is the new stadium stuff. They got it all out first and in an easy to understand manner. Unfortunately everything after it has been days late.

[Siggy]

Flog him for 10 Million Quid and then, after the manager that buys him is sacked (not exactly a rare occurance in Football) and he is deemed surplus to requirements by the new Manager, we'll buy him back for 5 Million.

Of course, this only works if the team he goes to does not hire Aidy as the replacement manager...

[kingjames77]

Aidy leaving right now doesnt bear thinking about!!

[UEA_Hornet]

Aidy leaving right now doesnt bear thinking about!!

Only PYA does the bear thinking round here ta!

[PaddingtonsYellowArmy]

mo clue as to amy add ons - but hilarious reading - what ever happened to that canut jobr - he was a live wire, think he was a mate of that tw.at bubble!:cool:

King James - shut up!;)

[TheDon]

mo clue as to amy add ons - but hilarious reading - what ever happened to that canut jobr - he was a live wire, think he was a mate of that tw.at bubble!:cool:

King James - shut up!;)

He came back as Yoda

[wfcwarehouse]

He came back as Yoda

:tumbleweed: